Special Opinion to the Mirror by Mary Strock
A common question that someone who has moved to the Eastern Shore of Virginia is asked is “where are you from?” And once determined that they did not hail from this peninsula, more often than not they are branded as a “come here”. That tag, to most, is not often a compliment and seems to relegate the newcomer to a status less than stellar, in the eyes of those who use your origins as a barometer of who or what you are.
The reality is, unless we are of the Powhatan tribe, we are all “come heres”. Captain John Smith, when he landed here in 1608 was not born on the Shore. He came here on the Phoenix and found what most “come here’s” find….a fertile land, a vibrant fishery, an inviting climate, pristine waters, clean air, and a relatively friendly reception from the “been here’s” (in his case,the friendly Powhatan).
Most of us “come here’s”, once discovering the Shore, bring significant investment once we settle. We pay real estate and personal property taxes, hire local contractors to build or remodel our homes, frequent local shops, restaurants, and grocery stores. We buy our fuel from local stations, and our electricity from the local cooperative. We give to local charities, support our volunteer services, and make very fine neighbors. In short, we contribute.
But many of us who have collectively invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Accomack County’s economy are asking ourselves if we would have made that investment today as we look at hundreds of industrial poultry factories being constructed at a near-manic pace. We worry about our drinking water, air, community health, real estate values and even the scarring of our visual landscapes from these tin-clad monsters.
The Accomack County Board of Supervisors, perpetrators of this assault, proudly count their dollars as they roll in from mostly foreign investors in the poultry expansion. It is wild that these foreign nationals are not dubbed “come heres” but are called “major drivers of the local economy”, while the real drivers of this economy (us) are fiscally and environmentally pummeled.
Mary Strock
Ken Dufty says
Very good comments. Northampton County faced the same fate in the form of the ill-fated 2014 zoning ordinance. Yet down here hundreds banded together and followed the courageous lead of Mary Miller (and CBES) and Roberta Kellam and Martina Coker (former Planning Commissioners who swung a mighty bat against the changes long before the masses woke up). And once so enlightened we marched, we sang, we wrote, we spoke, we met, we attended and oftimes yelled. We exercised an oft-atrophied yet constitutionally-guaranteed right to throw our government out on its ear once it failed to carry the mission and directive of the people.
The fight to save our county was a textbook example of people enacting change while flexing their first amendment rights, and the successes that the people attained in that battle did not come without sacrifice…..on every level by many, many people.
That victory was a turning point in Northampton County’s future, and the hundreds of concerned citizens in Accomack County should tear a page from our play book, enlarge it, nail it to a stick, and carry it into the streets.
We should stand with our neighbors to the north as they try to defend their rural quality of life and environmental integrity. After all, we breathe the same air, drink from the same aquifer, enjoy the same Bay and Seaside, and most of all are not separated by some arbitrary line penned by a cartographer.
On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 7:30 pm the Painter Town Council will hold a public hearing to consider adopting an historic ordinance proposed to protect its residents from this tidal wave of industrial poultry growing factories (that should ONLY BE PERMITTED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONES. It is the first time an Accomack County town has stood up to the poultry-crazed county government, and we should all support their brave move to temper this regional assault.
Kenny Hickman says
The Powhatans you speak of could not protect their homes or their loved ones, so they were both taken from them. The Japanese and Germans would have loved to have done the same thing to us in the 40’s. My question is why have you all continued to come here, to the shore, knowing that you would not be accepted by a portion of the population that tells the truth and secretly by those that do not?
Chas Cornweller says
Wow Kenny Hickman, just wow! Are you so readily inured to the reasoning that ALL Eastern Shore born on and life families have it over on the folks that chose to move to the land of pleasant living, that you would make the statement…”You would not be accepted by a portion of the population that tells the truth and secretly by those that do not?” What in the hell are you talking about? Being born on the Eastern Shore does not make anyone any more special than say, someone born in the Sub-Sahara or Eastern Poland for that matter. But to conflate the issue with a not so veiled statement of prejudice and ignorance, just marks you for who you appear to be. A sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat and formula. Forever tied to a land he was born to, yet not to inherit. Given a heart that no longer listens and a mind that is closed to the fact that a man is not to be judged by another man, either by status, creed, or family beginnings. I truly hope I have miss-read your comment. Please tell me that I have.
Thank you, Mary Strock for a well written, enlightened piece on the true value of the Eastern Shore. I believe, those that have a heart for the Shore, are its true Shore men (and women!)
Kenny Hickman says
You read it right, tuck those raw nerves back in and run along.
Chas Cornweller says
To quote someone famous, whom you probably know nothing about.
” Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
Got it?
Kenny Hickman says
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when liberal men are afraid of the light.
Chas Cornweller says
Yes, of course, you are the man bathed in the light… Here are a few of the “Liberal” men you would consider “frightened by light”. Think before you speak your next line of non-sense. You seem to be only deepening the hole you’re already in.
1. Martin Luther – Started the Protestant movement.
2. John Locke – writer of rights to private property and consent of the governed
3. Voltaire – writer of civil rights and right to a fair trial and freedom of religion
4. Thomas Paine – writer of Common Sense, a pro-independence pamphlet
5. Thomas Jefferson – we all know of his writings
6. Benjamin Franklin – Continental Congress member
7. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe – poet, novelist, scientist, diplomat
8. Jeremy Bentham – help develop the central concept of utilitarianism
9. John Stuart Mill – writer of On Liberty
10. Charles Dickens – writer of social ills and the industrial revolution
11. Samuel Clemons (Mark Twain) – writer of racism, classism and societal dysfunctions
12. Theodore Roosevelt – Republican president saved vast swaths of land for future generations as National Parks
13. John Maynard Keynes – economist
14. Franklin D. Roosevelt – Democratic President helped usher in a safety net to keep over twenty million Americans employed and from starving to death after market crash of 1929. Policies before and after the war help shaped victory for United States in both European and Pacific theaters.
15. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. – shaped and directed the Civil Rights movement such that African Americans got non-discriminatory rights by using Gandhi’s method of non-violent means.
16. Robert F. Kennedy – Peace advocate and candidate for presidency in 1968
17. Cesar Chavez – Farm laborer and civil rights activist.
18. John Lennon – Singer songwriter, peace advocate – assassinated 1980
19. Barack Obama – First Black President
20. Me – advocate for truth, justice and the fair and equal treatment of all human beings, future unknown
Think you know liberals? I only listed twenty. There are tens of thousands, those that have shaped this world in ways you cannot begin to fathom. This very country you live in was founded by liberals and free thinkers. People who had the guts to put everything on the line for their acts of defiance. If you and your ilk, continue to push your so-called conservative (and I say so-called, because it reeks more of classism and the plunder of the last of the treasury – which, by the way is NOT conservatism, but more like thievery) agenda upon the hard working, tax paying people of this country, there will be blow-back. Liberalism, always triumphs when the fight is just cause. History has proven that. So, take this statement to your two sizes too small heart: The real tragedy is NOT when liberal men are afraid of the light, but when the light is shone on despotism and corruption and REAL men step up to combat that darkness, while all the others sit and say nothing. In other words,…to quote yet another liberal;” The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
Kenny Hickman says
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart.
If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain.
Pluck…
Patton says
Yawn…. What about Rep. Maxine Walters?
Patton says
Oops forgot to add: John Lennon- Wife beater and drug addict.
Paul Plante says
Chas Cornweller, dude, fellow American patriot, GREETINGS.
It is good to see you survived the recent ravages of weather unscathed.
And is this a civics test you are giving us here, Chas Cornweller?
Or are you trying to see how many of us are asleep at the switch here?
Either way, Chas Cornweller, the name Barack Hussein Obama does not belong on that list.
Hussein Obama is NOT a liberal, Chas Cornweller; he is a Marxist.
A Marxist is not a liberal; a Marxist is a socialist, or a communist.
And by the way, if you are a fan of Obama and the imposition of socialism in this country, and let us face it, Chas Cornweller, many now are, Obama is coming back into American politics this year for a final assault to get the socialism wagon on the roll, big time, and get socialism imposed on the American people.
Consider Newsweek, Chas Cornweller:
“Obama Is Returning to Politics in 2018, and Trump Should Be Worried” by Sam Schwarz on 1/17/18 at 9:29 AM:
If President Donald Trump and the Republican Party were already worried about defending their majorities in the House and Senate come November, they will now have another major factor to contend with: Barack Obama.
The former president enjoyed a busy year since leaving the White House but has largely stayed under the radar.
Now, Obama is reportedly planning to return to politics in 2018, setting the stage for a prominent role in the lead-up to the crucial midterm elections.
Close associates of the 44th president predict a politically active year, including campaign stops and other displays of public support.
Obama will “continue to be politically active in 2018, with more endorsements and more campaigning,” his spokeswoman Katie Hill told The Chicago Tribune.
The president spent part of 2017 jet-setting around the globe and making the most of some time off after eight years of nonstop scrutiny and governing, but he always maintained that he would never leave politics behind.
Before leaving office, Obama vowed to remain politically relevant and work with and endorse candidates who sought to preserve his legacy and signature accomplishments.
So Obama’s appearance on the campaign trail should scare Trump and Republican candidates across the board.
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Obama’s appearance on the campaign trail should scare the hell out of every American who does not want to live shackled under world socialism.
But this should scare the hell out of loyal Americans even more:
In a September poll, 52 percent of respondents to a poll said they wished Obama were still in office.
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So why have you put the name of a Marxist on that list, Chas Cornweller?
Are you trying to see if we are awake?
Or are you insulting our intelligence?
Chas Cornweller says
Kenneth, Kenneth, Kenneth…and IF you are a Right Wing Neo-Con at any age you have neither a brain nor a heart. Pluck…true ringtone.
And Paul, no I am not insulting anyone’s intelligence. I don’t have to, it speaks for itself here. I am just calling it for how I see it. And dear sir, you completely misconstrued my point. My list consisted of twenty people (myself included) whose political bent would lean to the liberal side of life and were threatened for it. You know, where someone wants to make a better world, not just for some…but for all. But, somehow, you got on a tear about Barack Obama and the third coming of the anti-Christ or something to that effect. And let me ask you…do you collect Medicare? Social Security? Do you drive the nation’s interstates? Enjoy Television/the internet? I could go on, but you catch my drift. These are all programs protected and covered by a Socialist foundation. Food Banks are an example of socialism/communism (gasps!!!) at work at the local level. So, don’t give me the “Devil is a Communist/Muslim former president incarnate coming again to a theater near you!” crap. You’re selling crazy and as far as I can tell, we’re all about full up here. Thank you, come again.
Mike Kuzma, Jr. says
FDR gave us policies that continue to destroy to this day the fabric of our Republic.
JFK on his policies alone would be a Republican today.
Locke, Voltaire, Paine? You’re kidding right?
Franklin, Jefferson, Clemens? Nope, not even.
Wow.
Paul Plante says
Ah, Chas Cornweller, you are really waxing quite prolific there, dude.
A lot of punch packed into a mere paragraph.
But punching at what?
And let me answer you, no, I do not collect Medicare.
Yes, I do collect Social Security, which happens to be my money, Chas Cornweller, paid in out of my wages as a tax.
What socialist foundation protects and covers that?
The Clinton Foundation?
And no, I don’t drive the nation’s interstates, although I used to, and no, Chas Cornweller, it was not some “socialist foundation” that provided us with those interstates, which are paid for by taxes.
It was American workers who built the interstates, not the Commies.
And in fact, the original interstates were based on the autobahns Hitler built in Germany as military highways to protect us from a Commie invasion.
And no, Chas Cornweller, I don’t watch television; I don’t want to rot my brain, but here, I will accept that the brain rot on television is protected and covered by a socialist foundation.
And I do enjoy the internet, otherwise, I wouldn’t be here commenting on your comments to my prior comments.
But it is not a socialist foundation that provides me with access to the internet, Chas Cornweller; it is Verizon, and I have to pay for it.
So, yes, you could go on for hours or days, and still, I would not catch your drift.
And Food Banks are not an example of socialism/communism (gasps!!!) at work at the local level.
The food that food banks have is grown by American people and donated, or it is donated by local businesses, and that is a form of charity, Chas Cornweller, not communism.
If you really want to know what COMMUNISM is like, Chas Cornweller, you really should take the sage advice of James “Mad Dawg” Mattis and read “This Kind of War: The Classic Korean War History” by T.R. Fehrenbach.
Is that what you want for this country, Chas Cornweller – to have it turned into a North Korea?
If that is the case, you’re selling crazy and as far as I can tell, we’re all about full up here, so thank you, come again.
As to Hussein Obama, who was never threatened with anything I am aware of, the half-white man who can’t deal with the fact that he is not all black, the teenage coke sniffer who couldn’t deal with reality, the fool who along with Hillary Rodham Clinton caused the greatest humanitarian crisis in the world since WWII with their hare-brained scheme to remove Basher Assad in Syria from power using an army of terrorists; you pretty much cover all the possible bases with your characterization of him as the “Devil is a Communist/Muslim former president incarnate coming again to a theater near you,” although I would have to quibble with your calling him a Communist/Muslim.
Don’t you remember your Marx, dear Chas Cornweller – “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions.”
“It is the opium of the people”.
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Obama is a Marxist, so he wouldn’t be a Muslim at the same time.
And if he was a Muslim, he wouldn’t be a Marxist.
But he is a Marxist, so I doubt he is a Muslim.
And anyway, Chas Cornweller, Communism itself is a religion as Walter Phelps Hall, PhD, of Princeton, tells us at pp. 152,153 of “World Wars And Revolutions”copyrighted 1943, to wit:
Fascism is an all-embracing doctrine which demands a one hundred percent surrender of the individual will in the name of mystical nationalism – with ends not clearly defined.
This nationalism is beyond good and evil, and thus is deified.
Therefore, fascism properly should be classed as a kind of religion like communism, the latter based on class-consciousness, the former on nationalism.
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With Communism as a religion, Chas Cornweller, why would Obama need Islam?
Think it over and let us know what you come up with there, and a grateful nation and candid world will both thank you for it.
tkenny says
Look at you go, Paulie.
Obama is a Marxist
Nuclear reactors are causing climate change
Rensselaer is a lawless, corrupt County in New York
Sonia Sotomayor is a corrupt Supreme Court Judge.
Don’t you sound like a stable person
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, good to see you survived the recent ravages of the weather like our dear friend and fellow American patriot Chas Cornweller.
Your fans here to the north have been worried about you, wondering where you have been, and why your silence in my thread on why Sonia Sotomayor, a corrupt judge by the operative definitions in use today that put definition to what makes a federal judge a corrupt judge like Sonia Sotomayor, should resign in disgrace.
Where are you coming down on that question, tkenny?
Should she stay, or should she go?
As to the subject of “judicial corruption, in an article on the subject from the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners entitled “Bribery on the Bench: A Look at Judicial Corruption” by Jordan Underhill, J.D.,
Research Specialist, ACFE, we have as follows:
Types of Judicial Corruption
The two most common types of judicial corruption are political interference and bribery.
Political interference is when politicians or staff from the legislative or executive branch meddle in judicial affairs or collude with judges in fraudulent schemes.
Despite efforts in many countries to isolate the judiciary from politics, judges and other court personnel still face significant pressure to rule in favor of powerful political or business entities rather than in accordance with the law.
A malleable judiciary can be used by those in power to provide protection for and lend legitimacy to fraudulent acts.
Judges might also collude with politicians in a variety of different white-collar crimes, such as extortion, money laundering and embezzlement.
The second most common form of judicial corruption is bribery.
Judges or other court officials might accept bribes to exercise their influence over a case in a way that benefits the briber.
For example, a judge might delay or accelerate cases, accept or deny appeals, or simply rule in a particular way in exchange for kickbacks.
Court officials also accept bribes to exercise their influence over cases.
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Those bases cover Sonia Sotomayor.
And yes, tkenny, Obama is a Marxist, which has never been any kind of secret.
GOOGLE the question “Is Obama a Marxist,” and see what you get.
For example, how about this Forbes article under the topic heading Economics & Finance from Jan, 22, 2012 entitled “Is President Obama Truly A Socialist?” by Paul Roderick Gregory, then a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, at Stanford, and energy fellow and Cullen Professor of Economics at the University of Houston, also a research professor at the German Institute for Economic Research Berlin whose specialties are Russia and Comparative Economics, and who has written more than 20 books on economics, Russia and comparative economics, to wit:
Pew Research finds that sixty percent of Americans respond negatively to “socialism.”
It is clear why President Barack Obama must avoid that label.
Words are important.
Political candidates who control the language of political discourse win elections.
Most of our elites would certainly not entertain the question: “Is Obama a socialist?”
Only irresponsible fanatics carelessly throw around such epithets, they say.
Polite circles ignore such goofiness.
As someone who has professionally studied and written about comparative economics, capitalism, and socialism for almost fifty years, the reticence to probe the core beliefs of a political leader seems odd.
The question is perfectly legitimate in both an academic and political context as long as we define terms and place the discussion in proper context.
By “socialist,” I do not mean a Lenin, Castro, or Mao, but whether Obama falls within the mainstream of contemporary socialism as represented, for example, by Germany’s Social Democrats, French Socialists, or Spain’s socialist-workers party?
By this criterion, yes, Obama is a socialist.
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You should read the article, tkenny, as it is quite educational and informative.
As to “socialism.” it is defined as follows:
1) a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole;
2) policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism;
3) (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.
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Can you imagine the chaos in this country that would come from the means of production, distribution, and exchange being owned or regulated by the community as a whole, when the fools can’t even get a budget passed, and instead shut down OUR government last night as if it were Democratic Socialist Charley “CHUCK” Schumer’s personal playtoy?
And yes, tkenny, nuclear reactors, while not the sole cause of climate change, are big contributers, as was proven in another thread or two in here recently.
And don’t you remember the big heat wave in France that was killig so many people, tkenny?
Check out this Telegraph article entitled “Weakest ‘drop like flies’ as 50 die in French heatwave” by Philip Delves Broughton in Paris on 12 Aug. 2003:
The elderly are dying “like flies” because of the relentless heat, French doctors said yesterday as undertakers warned that their mortuaries were full.
Paris endured its hottest night since records began in 1873 early yesterday with temperatures of at least 76F (24C), following a day of more than 100F (37F).
There was not even the slightest breeze to relieve the furnace conditions.
Nuclear plants have been forced to reduce their electicity output by the intense heat and industry chiefs held an emergency meeting with government officials yesterday to discuss how to stave off power cuts.
The threat to power supplies from France’s nuclear industry, which provides more than three-quarters of the country’s electricity, comes because its reactors are all located on rivers and coastline.
This enables them to drink up water for cooling before returning it to the rivers and sea at a slightly warmer temperature.
But with the heatwave driving up outside water temperatures, plants have been forced to cut output because of limits on the temperature of the water they release.
Several reactors, including the Tricastin plant on the Rhone just north of Provence, have been given temporary permission to release even warmer water than usual from their coolers in order to help them through the summer.
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And yes, tkenny, Rensselaer County in New York state is a lawless, corrupt county in New York state that may well be one of the most corrupt counties in the nation.
To give you some essential background, consider New York State Penal Law § 460.00, which provides as follows:
Organized crime in New York state involves highly sophisticated, complex and widespread forms of criminal activity.
The diversified illegal conduct engaged in by organized crime, rooted in the illegal use of force, fraud, and corruption, constitutes a major drain upon the state’s economy, costs citizens and businesses of the state billions of dollars each year, and threatens the peace, security and general welfare of the people of the state.
The money and power derived by organized crime through its illegal enterprises and endeavors is increasingly being used to infiltrate and corrupt businesses, unions and other legitimate enterprises and to corrupt our democratic processes.
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That was in 1986, tkenny, and since then it has only gotten worse, to the point of where our s0-called “democratic” processes have become about totally corrupted, and that is thanks to judges like Sonia Sotmaypor.
As to the endemic public corruption in the Rensselaer County Department of Health itself, tkenny, in a March 27, 1989 Report of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) concerning a federal Hobbs Act investigation of corruption in the Rensselaer County (State of New York) Department of Health based on my testimony, which made me a marked man in Rensselaer County, it was stated as follows:
“According to (name deleted), the results of the State’s investigation were that New York State laws were not being followed by the Rensselaer County Health Department, Rensselaer County laws were not being followed by the Rensselaer County Health Department, and there was very little ‘enforcement activity’ even in the face of illegal sales.”
“(Name deleted) advised that the Rensselaer County Health Department’s oversight of realty subdivisions in that county is ‘unsatisfactory’!”
“(Name deleted) also faulted the State of New York Health Department for not auditing Rensselaer County’s program.”
“(Name deleted) advised that he would not expect to find a worse county in the region (the Capital District region which comprises 17 counties)!”
“According to (name deleted), the object of any county health department is to protect the public and not to facilitate development.”
“In the case of Rensselaer County, it appears that the Rensselaer County Health Department was in business to facilitate developers and development rather than to protect the public.”
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Can your county match that record, tkenny?
So yes, tkenny, I am indeed quite stable here, and thank you for pointing that out to people in here, it is appreciated.
Anne Jones says
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africafor centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It’s something Hillary doesn’t understand – how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals’ Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
He is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
And yet he got elected, not once but twice. Thanks to those that did not think it was important to vote for freedom and those that were willing to give up their freedoms for entitlements.
Remember you don’t have to be on a southern plantation to be a slave, if you are dependent on government entitlements you just have a different slave owner.
PASS THIS ON TO EVERY THINKING AMERICAN YOU KNOW!
Paul Plante says
Wow!
(cue sounds of audience applause)
Obama is a true charismatic.
If he wasn’t in government, he would be running a mega-church somewhere.
Your writing makes me recall an article from the Spokane Conservative Examiner on October 10, 2014, as follows:
If actress Gwyneth Paltrow had her way, Barack Obama wouldn’t just be the president — he’d be a full-fledged dictator with all the power to do whatever he wanted without Congress.
“It would be wonderful if we were able to give this man all of the power that he needs to pass the things that he needs to pass,” she said of Obama during an introduction the Associated Press said was “punctuated by ‘ums.'”
She also told Obama, “I am one of your biggest fans, if not the biggest, and have been since the inception of your campaign.”
When she handed Obama the microphone, she told him, “You’re so handsome that I can’t speak properly.”
Paul Plante says
Obama African Union Speech In Ethiopia Transcript July 28 2015
The full text of Tuesday’s remarks, provided by the U.S. Embassy, follows below:
OBAMA: I also stand before you as the son of an African.
And Africa and its people have helped shape who I am and how I see the world.
Mike Kuzma, Jr. says
Paul and I disagree on Nuclear power, but please tell me where he was wrong on his other 3 points?
Obama IS a Marxist, self admittedly.
An objective reading of Paul’s recitation of his travails serves as proof of Rensselaer’s perfidy.
And his experience with, and her past actions as JSCOTUS show she is indeed corrupt.
And even as much as we argue, he is still far more stable and lucid than you.
Paul Plante says
What exactly is our disagreement on nuclear energy, anyway, Mike?
Paul Plante says
An “objective” reading, Mike?
What an old-fashioned thought that is.
This is the 21st Century in America, Mike.
People don’t do objective, anymore.
There’s no percentage in it, and it is so retro, afterall.
Marsh Hen says
Obama was not our First Black President. My God, how ignorant can you be. He is just as much white as he is black. So please tell me how we have had our first black president. We have not. He is a Mulatto. Period. The truths that will come out about his administration over the next 75 years will shock what is left of thinking Americans.
Paul Plante says
Social well-being, Chas Cornweller, not socialism.
Apples and oranges as is made quite apparent in Article XVII of the New York State Constitution, to wit:
Section 1. The aid, care and support of the needy are public concerns and shall be provided by the state and by such of its subdivisions, and in such manner and by such means, as the legislature may from time to time determine. (New. Adopted by Constitutional Convention of 1938 and approved by vote of the people November 8, 1938.)
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§3. The protection and promotion of the health of the inhabitants of the state are matters of public concern and provision therefor shall be made by the state and by such of its subdivisions and in such manner, and by such means as the legislature shall from time to time determine. (New. Adopted by Constitutional Convention of 1938 and approved by vote of the people November 8, 1938.)
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Approved by vote of the people, Chas Cornweller, not imposed on us by some socialist foundation.
Paul Plante says
Chas Cornweller, dude, then why oh why have you excluded me from your list consisting of twenty people (yourself included) whose political bent would lean to the liberal side of life and were threatened for it?
You know, where someone like me wants to make a better world, not just for some…but for all?
Because I am not a Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama follower?
And Chas Cornweller, pardon me here, no offence intended, but aren’t you mixing your metaphors in here quite indiscriminately?
Consider the following:
On the one hand, here you are berating (scold or criticize someone angrily) this poster above for being a sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat and formula forever tied to a land he was born to, yet not to inherit, given a heart that no longer listens and a mind that is closed to the fact that a man is not to be judged by another man, either by status, creed, or family beginnings.
And then, down below @ January 26, 2018 at 5:42 pm, you yourself come across as a sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat and formula forever tied to a land he was born to, yet not to inherit, given a heart that no longer listens and a mind that is closed with your comment to tkenny that “Besides, this issue Paul has, really has nothing to do with the Eastern Shore, other than to say, Shore residents, watch your back!”
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Doesn’t that make you sound insular (ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one’s own experience), Chas Cornweller?
If it didn’t happen within the bounds of the 795 mi² of Northampton County, Virginia, you don’t want to know about it, a point that is reinforced by your following words:
This blog site (as far as I can tell) is here through the diligent efforts of one guy, Wayne Creed.
Its purpose is to throw light on the actions of those who hold power in the county of Northampton and in the Town of Cape Charles.
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My goodness, Chas Cornweller, talk about “been heres” wanting to keep all knowledge of the outside world out of Northampton County in the State of Virginia, you sound like the leader of them right there!
Am I missing some vital point there, Chas Cornweller?
Are you for the Cape Charles Mirror becoming a parochial (having a limited or narrow outlook or scope) rag with news confined to Northampton County, Virginia to protect the people of Northampton County from intrusions by the world at large to keep them somehow mentally pure?
Is it your operating premise that the people of N0rthampton County, Virginia are better off being totally ign9rant as to what is taking place outside their county?
Should the Cape Charles Mirror add a feature like many in Congress now have that only allow comments from certain zip codes?
In that case, should Wayne Creed then modify the history section in here so that it does not make mention of any other history in any other part of the world?
Just curious as to your thinking on these matters, Chas Cornweller.
As I say, no offence intended, just natural curiosity is all as to how my fellow man sees the world.
Chas Cornweller says
Paul wrote:
1.) Chas Cornweller, dude, then why oh why have you excluded me from your list consisting of twenty people (yourself included) whose political bent would lean to the liberal side of life and were threatened for it?
You know, where someone like me wants to make a better world, not just for some…but for all?
2.) Because I am not a Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama follower?
3.) And Chas Cornweller, pardon me here, no offence intended, but aren’t you mixing your metaphors in here quite indiscriminately?
Consider the following:
4.) On the one hand, here you are berating (scold or criticize someone angrily) this poster above for being a sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat and formula forever tied to a land he was born to, yet not to inherit, given a heart that no longer listens and a mind that is closed to the fact that a man is not to be judged by another man, either by status, creed, or family beginnings.
5.) And then, down below @ January 26, 2018 at 5:42 pm, you yourself come across as a sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat and formula forever tied to a land he was born to, yet not to inherit, given a heart that no longer listens and a mind that is closed with your comment to tkenny that “Besides, this issue Paul has, really has nothing to do with the Eastern Shore, other than to say, Shore residents, watch your back!”
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6.) Doesn’t that make you sound insular (ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one’s own experience), Chas Cornweller?
7.) If it didn’t happen within the bounds of the 795 mi² of Northampton County, Virginia, you don’t want to know about it, a point that is reinforced by your following words:
This blog site (as far as I can tell) is here through the diligent efforts of one guy, Wayne Creed. Its purpose is to throw light on the actions of those who hold power in the county of Northampton and in the Town of Cape Charles. end quotes
My goodness, Chas Cornweller, talk about “been heres” wanting to keep all knowledge of the outside world out of Northampton County in the State of Virginia, you sound like the leader of them right there!
8.) Am I missing some vital point there, Chas Cornweller?
9.) Are you for the Cape Charles Mirror becoming a parochial (having a limited or narrow outlook or scope) rag with news confined to Northampton County, Virginia to protect the people of Northampton County from intrusions by the world at large to keep them somehow mentally pure?
10.) Is it your operating premise that the people of N0rthampton County, Virginia are better off being totally ign9rant as to what is taking place outside their county?
11.) Should the Cape Charles Mirror add a feature like many in Congress now have that only allow comments from certain zip codes?
12.) In that case, should Wayne Creed then modify the history section in here so that it does not make mention of any other history in any other part of the world?
Just curious as to your thinking on these matters, Chas Cornweller. As I say, no offence intended, just natural curiosity is all as to how my fellow man sees the world.
Chas responds:
1. Because I don’t see you as a liberal. You are at best (as far as I can discern from your writings) a libertarian. But, (again, as far as I can discern from your writings) not a very tolerant one.
2. No (see above)
3. Possibly. But, there are no laws on the books for doing so. Only in writing class. And this ain’t writing class.
4. It’s you saying I come across as a sad, not-so-humble creature of habitat…etc. Not me.
5. Where have I said that I am from the Eastern Shore? Show me.
6. No, not at all. I am quite the opposite.
7. I am referring to the blog being about Cape Charles and surrounding areas. What does that have to do with Judge Sonia Sotomayor?
8. Ha. Ha. Yes. Missing it by a mile.
9. Good question and no, it is not up to me to protect the people of Northampton. All I can do is shed light on situations that interest me and my profession. There is no such thing as “mentally pure”. Mentally deficient, yes…but none of us is mentally pure.
10. No. In fact a lot of what is happening outside their county does directly affect them.
11. No. Definitely not.
12. And again, No. Learning history is good. Repeating it…bad.
And Paul, no offense taken. I see the world as full of good and well-intended people, who, are either tripped up by the rest who are evil and full of evil intent or use their god given intelligence to discern for themselves who is evil (not always easy – will admit) and who is kind. And they try to make the most of their lives and those around them, better. After all, aren’t we all here to learn some lessons, help our fellow man and make this garden a better place? That’s how I see it. Peace.
Paul Plante says
You’re a cool dude, Chas Cornweller!
Thanks for engaging and responding in the spirit of the exercise, because yes, we are here, at least in my value system, which has nothing to do with the Libertarians, to learn some lessons, help our fellow man and make this garden a better place!
Don Green says
Congratulations and many thanks to Messrs. Dufty and Cornweller on very good responses to Ms Strock’s excellent article. I moved from Somerset County, MD, which the rest of that State has allowed to become a toilet for chicken waste, to Accomack County, hoping for a county government that would appreciate the unique nature of this lower Bay area. Judging on the basis of topography alone, Accomack’s land values should compare to those of the Outer Banks; however topography is obviously not the only factor in determining value The Outer Banks do not have CAFOs or chicken processing plants. Here’s an excerpt from January 19th’s EASTERN SHORE POST (page 7): “A preliminary assessment for Accomack real estate shows values dropped on average by 1.8 percent and will cause a loss of more than $400,000 in tax revenue, Assessor Brent Hurdle told county supervisors Wednesday.” Tyson and Perdue and those “farmers” connected with them will argue that this decline in Accomack’s property values is a matter of correlation, not of causation, but they’re deliberately ignoring reality. The “creative class”, the operators of businesses such as Blue Crab Bay Company, New Ravenna, various wineries, and proposed breweries, as well as prosperous retirees and businesses connected with tourism will no longer be attracted to live in and do business in Accomack County, which appears to be morphing into Virginia’s equivalent of Somerset County. A message to County Supervisors: Employment in the poultry business and proliferating County jobs will not make the County richer. Eventually, you will run out of people willing to pay the increase in property tax rates required to compensate for declining property assessments. We are poorly governed..
Sam Stone says
The citizens of Accomack County eat chicken (cheap source of protein) 4-5 times a week for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Who’s backyard should their meals be grown in?
Don Green says
Try somewhere in Georgia. There’s much more room there than in these two counties. Look at the beauty of the Bay and its tributaries, and you’ll see what we’re allowing to be destroyed. BTW, my politics are Alt-Right. Don’t accuse me of being a leftist.
Mike Kuzma, Jr. says
Don, the residents of the ESVA have eschewed a change in highest and best use from an agricultural base to one based on tourism.
Their choice, but they need to understand that actions have consequences, and the consequence to this action is poverty, penury and a 40 one way ride to the only Wal Mart around.
Marsh Hen says
That is one hell of an attitude….I know some good ole boys in Georgia that may take exception to that.
Paul Plante says
KUDOS!
tkenny says
Mike, really?
“Obama IS a Marxist, self admittedly” Would that be when he said he wanted to be like that character in the movie or was it during the roast? Is he a Marxist Democrat? Is it because of his push for universal health care? Umm, see Social Security/Welfare or FEMA. In the Forbes article Paul cited – State control of means of communication and transportation. Ask the people of Delmarva or some farmer in the middle of nowhere how market forces are just bringing those speedy internet connections to them – Not!. Why can you travel Europe by train but I wish you luck trying to get from Wilmington, DE to Bangor, ME. by train in any reasonable fashion. Do you think Big Oil wants electric vehicles, solar and wind power? Hell no! If government has to do a little nudging so be it. You wear your seat belt now when you drive, don’t you?
An objective reading of Paul’s recitation of his travails serves as proof of Rensselaer’s perfidy” Doesn’t this statement strike you as odd? How to you objectively read a one sided account and determine it’s proof?? ( Nice use of 50cent words there too!)
“And his experience with, and her past actions as JSCOTUS show she is indeed corrupt.” Lets just stay with his dealing with her, his one time dealing. Did he not have a lawyer? His side of the story sounds like a competent lawyer should have been able to argue a little better. My understanding is that to be appointed to SCOTUS requires a bit of background checking on the integrity of person and their rulings. I would think if one were corrupt, that would have been highlighted, unless the definition of corrupt means the individual didn’t rule in favor of your position.
Finally, “…he is still far more stable and lucid than you”. I think not. Paul has been telling the same story for the past 10 years, unprovoked. Frequent readers of the Mirror can probably tell the story as well as he can. What stable individual does that? Paul’s problem was his own doing and his failure of reading an organizational chart correctly is what got him fired.
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, your reasoning powers in here are considered more than awesome by your many fans and admirers here to the north of you, I would like you to know, and that is intended as a sincere compliment, even if I don’t share their opinion, which in this case, I obviously don’t, since you are so off-base it is not funny with your inane and frankly quite whacky statement that “Paul’s problem was his own doing and his failure of reading an organizational chart correctly is what got him fired.”
Where on earth have you dredged that up from, tkenny, besides “Tales of the Weird and Strange?”
The organizational chart I was reading from was the organizational chart I was handed when I was RETAINED as a NYS licensed professional engineer to go in an clean up a corrupt county health department,
My job description, which is what I went by, stated thusly, tkenny:
This is a professional position involving responsibility for the planning, direction and supervision of the environmental health program of the Rensselaer County Department of Health.
An incumbent provides leadership in the promotion of public health through application of environmental practices.
In addition, an employee is responsible for the enforcement of the provisions of the Public Health Law and local and State Sanitary Codes in relation to environmental matters.
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“Responsible for the enforcement of the provisions of the Public Health Law and local and State Sanitary Codes in relation to environmental matters” speaks for itself, does it not, tkenny?
Should someone responsible for the enforcement of the provisions of the Public Health Law and local and State Sanitary Codes in relation to environmental matters not enforce those laws and codes for the sake of politics to save one’s job, do you think, tkenny?
As to a “professional” position in NYS, tkenny, that is a position which requires a license from the state, which license I in fact was in possession of, and it was that license that defined my “organizational” chart, as follows:
As a LICENSED engineer in New York state, tkenny, which is a profession in New York state defined by law, and requiring GOOD MORAL CHARACTER, which I possess, tkenny, despite your futile efforts to portray it differently, I was bound by the Rules of the Board of Regents which define “unprofessional conduct” for licensed professional engineers in § 29.1 General provisions, which states in (a) that unprofessional conduct shall be the conduct prohibited by this section, and in (b)(1) is further defined as “willful or grossly negligent failure to comply with substantial provisions of Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession.”
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How many different ways can you spin “failure to comply with substantial provisions of Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession” is unprofessional practice so that it comes out as willful failure to comply with substantial provisions of Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession is good practice?
Which incidentally is exactly what Sonia Sotomayor did in 2005, setting the law and Constitution of the state of New York right on its ear, and depriving the people of Rensselaer County of the honest services of a licensed professional engineer.
But that was “good” politics, was it not, tkenny, on her part, while it was “bad” politics on my part to think that a mere code of professional responsibility telling me personally that “failure to comply with substantial provisions of Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession” is unprofessional practice really had any force or effect as a defense when told by corrupt Rensselaer County officials that the only way I could keep my position was by ignoring substantial provisions of Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession, which would be unprofessional practice had I complied, which I didn’t.
When then-Rensselaer County Executive John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono went on local TV to announce that he had “fired” me, which was an unlawful firing by law in NYS, stating that he could not “in good conscience” condone the conduct of an employee who consistently stated that he worked for the State of New York, rather than Rensselaer County, what he was referring to was my refusal to compromise my own office as a New York State licensed professional engineer, who in New York State, according to New York Education Law § 7201, “Definition of practice of engineering,” is supposed to perform “professional service such as consultation, investigation, evaluation, planning, design or supervision of construction or operation in connection with any utilities, structures, buildings, machines, equipment, processes, works, or projects wherein the safeguarding of life, health and property is concerned, when such service or work requires the application of engineering principles and data.”
Take a dive and politically survive, tkenny, you know how that game goes as well as I.
More importantly, tkenny, and much more to the point of my “firing,” § 29.3(a)(1) of the Rules that governed my conduct as a licensed professional engineer further provided that “Unprofessional conduct shall also include, in the profession of engineering, being associated in a professional capacity with any project or practice known to the licensee to be fraudulent or dishonest in character, or not reporting knowledge of such fraudulence or dishonesty to the Education Department.”
A steel-jawed trap in a corrupt state like NYS, tkenny, is what that is.
That I was confronted with unprofessional conduct in the profession of engineering with respect to practices known to myself as a licensed professional engineer to be fraudulent or dishonest in character is made incandescently clear, tkenny, in the FBI report at page 203 of the Record submitted to the federal Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York City in this matter in 2005 on behalf of defendant Rensselaer County Executive Kathleen Jimino and her co-defendants, as follows:
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE – FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
JUNE 30, 1989
During the time that these hearings were proceeding, the New York State Department of Health produced a report which was predicated on a request by [DELETED BY FBI CENSORS] to investigate allegations of “misfeasance and malfeasance made by Paul Plante against the Rensselaer County Department of Health.”
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WOW, tkenny, dude!
YES!
I do see it now – right there, by making those allegations of misfeasance and malfeasance as I did, I can see where a dude like you would and could construe that as “Paul’s problem was his own doing and his failure of reading an organizational chart correctly is what got him fired.”
I blabbed to the FBI, and for that I got stepped on, which to many is what justice looks like – crush the honest to protect the corrupt, and that is based on the “Honest Politician Defense” in NYS which states that “once bribed, an honest politician stays bribed,” and there I was, mucking things up big time by not taking bribes myself, and that I would not honor bribes taken.
As Rensselaer County political enforcer Felix “Iron Feliks” Pugliese was to testify on March 13, 1989 when asked if he had given me any “advice” when I announced that I was getting ready to file charges, if I didn’t want to be fired, I had better think twice about that, or I was going, to be hurt:
Q: DO YOU RECALL WHETHER YOU GAVE PAUL PLANTE ANY ADVICE ABOUT WHETHER HE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP HIS JOB?
PUGLIESE: I told him that based upon what he had been telling me (that I was bringing charges) I felt he was certainly putting himself into a GREAT PERSONAL NEGATIVE SITUATION in that IF HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO AVOID BEING CHARGED, he should work it out between him and his supervisor and that, you know, his professional career was going to be examined,
Q: Well, as the official responsible for administering the County Employment Department, what does it mean in Mr. Plante’s job description when it says that he should have “A considerable leeway allowed for the exercise of independent judgment in overseeing the operations of the Division of Environmental Health”?
PUGLIESE: I believe it means that Mr. Plante has in his capacity the ability or should have the ability to function as he sees fit until some point in time when his supervisor instructs him to either do something particular and in this particular case that we kept referring to or you kept referring to in terms of the media there was a discussion and the supervisor said I want it done this way – at that point we don’t allow independent thinking!
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“WE DO NOT ALLOW INDEPENDENT THINKING!”
“Just take the dive, Paul, and we’ll see that you survive!”
But I wouldn’t, so I didn’t, as that FBI record demonstrates as follows:
This (FBI) REPORT, dated March 15, 1989, advised that, “the investigation found significant deficiencies in the Rensselaer County residential subdivision program and individual sewage program.”
“We conclude that there has been inadequate oversight by the county Board of Health, inadequate supervision by the county Director of Public Health, insufficient support by the County Executive Office (the position of Environmental Health Director was vacant for four years) and FAILURES OF PREVIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTORS TO ENFORCE AND FOLLOW THE COUNTY SANITARY CODE DURING THE TIME PERIOD STUDIED.”
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Under the “FINDINGS” section of this report, the report stated “whenever documentation could be found, Paul Plante was found to be accurate in his statements of inappropriate code reviews.”
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And there was the end of me, tkenny.
Those previous environmental health directors who failed to enforce and follow the County Sanitary Code during the time period studied were all licensed professional engineers subject to the same Rules of Professional Practice as myself, and those “failures” constituted “unprofessional conduct” in the profession of engineering as a known to the licensee to be fraudulent or dishonest in character.
When I attempted to report that knowledge I had of such fraudulence or dishonesty to the Education Department, I was chopped down, and Sotomayor put the federal government seal of approval on that, for which she was rewarded with a seat on the United States Supreme Court, because yes, tkenny, they did check on her record to make sure she was politically reliable.
And what is this horse hockey you’re peddling with this “Paul has been telling the same story for the past 10 years, unprovoked.”
Where is that, tkenny, I’m curious to know, since my earliest posts in the CCM were in 2016, which is not ten years ago by my measures?
tkenny says
“In his position as Associate Public Health Engineer in the Rensselaer County Department of Health and Director of the Environmental Health Division, petitioner was required to enforce the Public Health Law and local and State sanitary codes in relation to environmental health matters under the general direction of Kenneth Van Praag, the County’s Public Health Director. According to petitioner’s job description, he
[172 A.D.2d 83]
was to be accorded “considerable leeway * * * for the exercise of independent judgment in overseeing the operation of the Division of Environmental Health”.
The events giving rise to this proceeding by petitioner, a licensed professional engineer, apparently stem from his belief that Van Praag, his administrative supervisor but not an engineer, lacked authority to direct him as to what he perceived to be technical engineering matters related to the Environmental Health Division, for in such matters petitioner answered to the State Health Department. Insubordination and other charges filed against petitioner by Van Praag resulted in extensive hearings and a recommendation by the Hearing Officer that petitioner be discharged. Respondent Rensselaer County Executive (hereinafter respondent) adopted the Hearing Officer’s recommendation insofar as petitioner was found to have been insubordinate in violation of County Work Rule No. 26.”
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“A State Health Department report confirmed many of petitioner’s allegations concerning the County Health Department’s enforcement of applicable laws and regulations and petitioner may indeed have been justified in refusing to follow orders which directly contradicted regulations he was to enforce. However favorably that conduct may be viewed, the fact remains that the specifications involved here concern different conduct, namely, his refusal to follow orders concerning administrative and organizational functions. The record more than amply supports the finding that petitioner did not follow his superiors’ orders in nontechnical areas and that he could not, or chose not to, distinguish between such matters and the more technical matters in which he, as a licensed engineer, concededly had authority to act without interference from his nonprofessional superiors (see, Matter of Short v Nassau County Civ. Serv. Commn., 45 N.Y.2d 721, 723). Thus, combined with the fact that even at the hearing petitioner did not completely recognize Van Praag as his direct superior in the county government and that, as he is fully aware, his credibility has been destroyed, it cannot be said that his dismissal is
[172 A.D.2d 87]
so disproportionate to the offense as to shock one’s sense of fairness”
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, you are not only awesome, you are practically if not totally amazing for your sleuthing ability that enabled you to sniff out and then dredge up that now-totally-discredited and frankly laughable New York State Supreme Court Appellate Division decision in Matter of Plante (that being myself) v. Buono (that being then-Rensselaer County Executive John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono, who was offered an $80,000 bribe in 1988 to get rid of me), 172 A.D.2d 81 (1991).
To be truthful with you, tkenny, I had actually forgotten about the travesty, because it is a discredited piece of crap not worth the paper it was written on, and as a result, we all owe you a real sincere debt of gratitude for finding it and bringing into here, because this is where the civil rights lawsuit that ended up before Sotomayor in 2005 can be said to actually have its roots, my inability to obtain justice in the courts of the state of New York.
To demonstrate that, tkenny, let’s do some parsing of your sentences in here:
tkenny says: In his position as Associate Public Health Engineer in the Rensselaer County Department of Health and Director of the Environmental Health Division, Paul Plante was required to enforce the Public Health Law and local and State sanitary codes in relation to environmental health matters under the general direction of Kenneth Van Praag, the County’s Public Health Director.
Paul Plante, who knows better, responds by saying tkenny, that is horse****, and you, of all people, know that as well or better than I, since you have full access to the whole record in that matter, which includes this line from my actual job description, placed in evidence before the New York State Workers’ Compensation Board by myself in support of a successful case of workplace harassment against John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono on March 5, 1993, fifteen (15) months AFTER your bogus decision on December 5, 1991, to wit:
Work is performed under the general direction of the Commissioner of Health and the Public Health Administrator with considerable leeway allowed for the exercise of independent judgment in overseeing the operation of the Division of Environmental Health.
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I answered to the Rensselaer County Commissioner of Health, tkenny, a medical doctor, not Ken Van Praag, who was a political hack who had been the executive secretary of the state Republican Party before being brought over to Rensselaer County to assume political control of the Rensselaer County Department of Health to turn it into a corrupt whore house.
I was there to put Van Praag in jail, not to answer to him, a point the politically-motivated Appellate Court chose to gloss over in that mockery of a court decision penned by YESAWICH JR., J., with WEISS, J. P., MIKOLL, CREW III and HARVEY, JJ., concurring, just as the other Supreme Court justices but one flocked around Judge Taney in the Dred Scott decision.
That the “firing” by Buono you’re cheering on here that was approved by the Appellate Court on December 5, 1991 was both unlawful and illegal, as well as unconstitutional pursuant to §18 of ARTICLE I, the Bill Of Rights of the New York State Constitution, in violation of my rights, is made crystal clear by a review of the provisions of New York Worker’s Compensation Law § 120, Discrimination against employees who bring proceedings, to wit:
It shall be unlawful for any employer or his or her duly authorized agent to discharge or in any other manner discriminate against an employee as to his or her employment because such employee has claimed or attempted to claim compensation from such employer, or because he or she has testified or is about to testify in a proceeding under this chapter and no other valid reason is shown to exist for such action by the employer.
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It shall be unlawful in New York State, people, for John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono to do what he did to me in early-1989, which was to fire me because I had claimed or attempted to claim compensation from such employer, and because I was about to testify in a proceeding under this chapter and no other valid reason was shown to exist for such action by the employer.
So tkenny is cheering on corrupt, unlawful and illegal actions by Rensselaer County in here as he tries and tries to convince us all that no, Rensselaer County is not corrupt, nor has it ever been, which is a crock of crap, big time.
That no valid reason was shown to exist for my firing was made incandescently clear on September 27, 1994, two (2) years and nine (9) months after the December 5, 1991 piece of judicial crap tkenny is trying to peddle in here as a legitimate judicial decision, as oppoed to what it really was, which is a political decision written by a handful of political judges, in Federal District Court for the Northern District of New York, as follows:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT – NORTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
EXAMINATION OF REPUBLICAN RENSSELAER COUNTY EXECUTIVE JOHN L. BUONO, BY ORDER, HELD AT THE CONFERENCE ROOM A, RENSSELAER COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING, TROY, NEW YORK
SEPTEMBER 27, 1994
Q: Did there come a time in May 1993 when you were consulted about a WORKER’S COMPENSATION proceeding that Paul Plante had initiated?
BUONO: YES.
Q: ARE YOU AWARE THAT ON OR ABOUT JULY 18, 1993 THAT THE COUNTY HAD ENTERED INTO A STIPULATION THAT PLAINTIFF HAD SUFFERED A PARTIAL DISABILITY AS A RESULT OF A WORK-RELATED ILLNESS THAT WAS GENERATED DURING THE TIME HE WAS EMPLOYED AS THE ENGINEER FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT?
BUONO: I’M AWARE OF THAT, YES!
Q: And ultimately, prior to the time that the stipulation was entered into, did you consent to it?
BUONO: YES.
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That swishing sound, people, is the sound of tkenny’s legs being cut out from under him.
WHUMP!
Down tkenny goes, hard, people!
Will he get up to fight again?
Will he find some other bogus court case to dredge up and drag in here to bolster his case, whatever that case might in the end be?
All I can say is the suspense has people right out there, at the very edge of their seats, so stay tuned!
And don’t touch that dial!
tkenny says
Paul, what are you smoking??
As way of an example, that you should be able to follow – a surgeon is licensed by the state. There are rules and regulations they must follow that the state hands down. A surgeon working in a hospital has to report to the administration of the hospital, there are rules established by the administration that they have to follow. Failure to follow those rules can end up in termination.
That’s what happened. The Workmans Comp thing, pff you got hurt on the job, Buono knew about the filing. You weren’t fired because of that.
I removed some notation but other wise it intact:
“Appeal from an order of the Supreme Court (Spain, J.), entered September 22, 1992 in Rensselaer County, which denied petitioner’s application pursuant to General Municipal Law § 50-e (5) for leave to serve a late notice of claim.
Petitioner became an Associate Public Health Engineer and also Director of Environmental Health in Rensselaer County on June 2, 1986. On May 26, 1989 respondent, by letter from the Rensselaer County Executive, terminated petitioner from employment after adopting the findings of the Hearing Officer who found various acts of misconduct and insubordination. Petitioner’s dismissal was confirmed in this court on December 5, 1991 and leave to appeal to the Court of Appeals was denied. Petitioner moved by order to show cause dated March 6, 1992 for an order granting him leave to file a late notice of claim against respondent on the basis that his termination resulted solely from respondent’s belief that he was disabled in violation of Executive Law § 296. His application was denied and this appeal ensued.
We affirm. Supreme Court did not abuse its discretion by denying petitioner’s application. The trial court is vested with broad discretion in determining whether a late notice of claim should be permitted. Obviously, one important factor to consider is the reason for the delay. Petitioner argues that he did not file timely because, after his termination in May 1989, he was not able to concentrate in order to make decisions and he was unaware of the notice requirement. The proffered excuses are not sufficient . In any event, the record indicates that petitioner knew of the notice of claim requirement shortly after the expiration of the 90-day period but did not proceed with the application for over two years. Petitioner, after consultation with his attorney, decided that it would be better for him to commence a proceeding to challenge the termination and if that was unsuccessful he would then apply for permission to file and serve a late notice of claim. Under these circumstances, the long delay was inexcusable and the application was properly denied.
Although it is not necessary to conclusively establish the merits of the claim , it is noted that petitioner is collaterally estopped from relitigating the reasons for his termination, i.e., misconduct and insubordination, because the courts have already confirmed that determination The prior CPLR article 78 proceeding afforded petitioner a full and fair opportunity to litigate the reasons for his termination
We have considered the remaining arguments and find them to be without merit.”
I’m insane! I keep expecting a different outcome from you. It’s unfortunate that you lost your job and I don’t take pleasure in that but what’s your endgame Paul? You’re not going get your job back. You aren’t going to unseat Sonia. (You might be generating some unwelcome scrutiny from other government entities) So what gives? What are you looking for? Life is short, let things go from the past that you have no control over now.
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, first of all, let me thank you on behalf of not only a grateful nation, but the candid world, as well, since we are live in CYBERSPACE, tkenny, as it is happening, and CYBERSPACE covers the world and beyond, both of whom need to hear about these vital background details you are bringing into this discussion as someone with inside knowledge of the political workings of the “Boss Murphy Era” saloon politics that still permeate Rensselaer County politics to this day, as you well know, this in your zeal as a loyal American patriotic citizen to do the right thing and stand up as you are doing in here by bringing in all of this now-discredited judicial bunkum and twaddle, which is a text book example of judicial corruption, to denounce and attempt to eradicate the evil of the judicial corruption in our nation that allows public corruption to flourish, for which I commend you, so they can understand exactly what it was Mario Cuomo was speaking about in 1986, when he climbed up to the dais and said the following, out of which came my marching orders to go into corrupt Rensselaer County and bring order out of chaos:
“TEN YEARS AGO, a study by the Joint House-Senate Subcommittee on Investigations estimated the costs of white-collar crime at MORE THAN forty-four BILLION dollars”.
“The incidence of white-collar crime has not abated in the last decade; instead, it has spiraled ever-upward as economic crime has become increasingly profitable and sophisticated!”
“The effects of major economic crime can be devastating: THE WHOLE SOCIETY suffers as crimes against business become crimes against consumers.”
“GREEDY, WHITE-COLLAR PROFITEERS WILL NOT BE STOPPED until we adopt strong measures to stop them!”
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That is quoted from the Governor’s Approval memorandum, New York State Legislative Annual -1986, p.236, tkenny, and when he talks about “strong measures to stop them,” he is there talking about me, tkenny – I was a strong measure against greedy, white-collar profiteers with a lot of political clout, given that they already controlled MORE THAN forty-four BILLION dollars by 1976, tkenny, right around the time both the New York State Department of Health and the Rensselaer County Department of Health went corrupt.
You’re an especially bright lightbulb in the four-pack, tkenny, (that is a compliment to his cognitive abilities, people) think about it for a moment as to why greedy, white-collar profiteers with a lot of political clout controlling more than forty-four billion dollars in 1976 would want to take control of a county health department, and the state health department, as well.
What do you do with more than forty-four billion in ill-gotten gains, tkenny?
How do you make that liquid?
You see the problem these greedy, white-collar profiteers with a lot of political clout and more than forty-four billion dollars in illicit funds were confronted with in 1976, tkenny?
They needed a laundry, which means land subdivisions and strip malls, and land subdivisions in New York State by law require health department approval.
So if you have to move a lot of dirty money, and you have a lot of dirty money you have to move, then control of as many county health departments as possible is a necessity, and that is what I was put in place to put an end to, tkenny, although as you well know, having been there when it was all going down, and as could be expected in a top-to-bottom corrupt county, as your bogus court decisions make clear, I failed miserably.
That the state Health Department was corrupt as of 1978 is made incandescently clear, tkenny, in a Report of Investigation by then-state health commissioner Dr. Axelrod, wherein was stated as follows:
Finally, the state Health Department has not exercised appropriate oversight of (Rensselaer) County performance.
Clearly, since 1978 the (state Health) Department has failed to identify the extent to which the (Rensselaer) County programs were deviating from its own standards.
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Actually, that last statement about the state health department failing to identify the extent to which the Rensselaer County programs were deviating from its own standards is not factually true.
The state engineer with oversight responsibility was very much aware of how corrupt Rensselaer County had become, and he was putting on the hush, so as not to make waves, which put him in violation of § 29.3(a)(1) of the Rules which governed both his and my practice as licensed professional engineers in NYS, which section provides:
“Unprofessional conduct shall also include, in the profession of engineering, being associated in a professional capacity with any project or practice known to the licensee to be fraudulent or dishonest in character, or not reporting knowledge of such fraudulence or dishonesty to the Education Department.”
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The state engineer was guilty of both, tkenny, being associated in a professional capacity with practices known to the licensee to be fraudulent or dishonest in character, and not reporting knowledge of such fraudulence or dishonesty to the Education Department, and had I kept my own mouth shut so as to not make political waves, especially as Buono was gearing up for another election campaign based on a policy of anything goes in Rensselaer County, I would have been guilty myself of not reporting my knowledge of such fraudulent and dishonest practices involving professional engineers to the Education Department, and why would I do that, tkenny?
Why would I or any other rational and stable person put themselves in professional jeopardy to protect some corrupt politicians?
Only an unstable person would do that, but you know what, tkenny, in the “Boss Murphy Era” saloon politics of Rensselaer County, there are a lot of unstable persons involved.
Getting back to violations of the law in the Rensselaer County Health Department that I was put in place to put an end to in 1986, in conformance with the goal of then-NYS governor Mario Cuomo to crush public corruption in NYS, the March 1989 AXELROD REPORT provides as follows:
In some cases, plans were improperly approved/signed by the Public Health Director without input from a Professional Engineer.
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With respect to that, tkenny N.Y. Education Law § 6512, entitled “Unauthorized practice a crime,” provides as follows:
1. Anyone not authorized to practice under this title who practices or offers to practice or holds himself out as being able to practice in any profession in which a license is a prerequisite to the practice of the acts, or who practices any profession as an exempt person during the time when his professional license is suspended, revoked or annulled, or who aids or abets an unlicensed person to practice a profession, or who fraudulently sells, files, furnishes, obtains, or who attempts fraudulently to sell, file, furnish or obtain any diploma, license, record or permit purporting to authorize the practice of a profession, shall be guilty of a class E felony.
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Van Praag was guilty of a host of class E felonies for violation of that section of law, and had I been “Johnny Real Nice Guy Who Is Compliant” and aided and abetted him as Rensselaer County was demanding that I do, I too would have been guilty of a class E felony, and why would I want to do that, tkenny?
Why would I want to commit crimes to protect some corrupt politicians in the state of New York?
Give us your thoughts on that question, tkenny, and then I will come back to address the rest of your questions such as “Paul, what are you smoking??”
To which I reply, nothing, tkenny, why do you ask?
And yes, tkenny, it is entirely possible that you are insane, expecting as you are a different outcome from me, but you know what, tkenny, and this is something that should give you comfort, in America today, the insane are just as equal as anyone else, so in here at least, being insane is not something that I will hold against you.
I think the insane have as much right to express themselves in public as does anyone else.
And yes, tkenny, it is indeed unfortunate for the children in Hoosick Falls, N.Y. drinking water poisoned with the carcinogen PFOA because of continuing gross negligence in the corrupt to this day Rensselaer County Department of Health that I lost my job, but such it is, tkenny, such it is.
And what’s my endgame, tkenny?
Does citizenship have an endgame?
Isn’t citizenship about citizenship, tkenny?
The strong like myself standing up for the weak, like the poisoned children of Hoosick Falls who have no one else speaking out for them because they are poor?
Isn’t that the endgame, tkenny, you know, the price of freedom is ETERNAL vigilance?
When before one is dead does eternal vigilance end, tkenny?
And of course, I’m not going get my job back, tkenny, because licensed engineers do not have “jobs.”
We have duties and responsibilities to civilized society to keep it civilized, and some of us take those duties and responsibilities quite seriously.
So that is my endgame, I guess.
And who knows what will happen to Sonia Sotomayor, tkenny.
She is not my concern, and anyway, her bad karma appears to be overtaking her, eating her out from inside, so she might not be on the bench much longer, and she can go out saying it was because her health failed, which is cool with me.
What I am doing is showing people how it was that she became a supreme court justice in the first place, because to the common citizen, that is normally a closed process, what kind of deals the judge candidates are making with the various senators as they go from office to office pandering for the votes they will need to make it to the high court.
Here, we get an inside view of what that pandering really looks like in real life, and tkenny, as a loyal American patriot like yourself, I feel duty bound to make this story known to the American people, as contemporary history.
So there is another endgame, I would suppose.
(Are we limited to only one endgame in life, does anyone know, or can we have a bunch of them?)
As to generating some unwelcome scrutiny from other government entities, who might they be, tkenny?
The CIA?
The NSA?
The office of the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York?
Oh, but they already know about it, because as a GOOD American citizen, tkenny, I felt it my duty and responsibility as a loyal American citizen to bring it to their attention.
So what gives, tkenny?
Beats me.
What am I looking for?
I live in the moment, tkenny, so I personally don’t waste time “looking for things” like myself, like a new car, or big screen TV or that kind of stuff, but if I was looking for something, it would be environmental justice for the people of Rensselaer County in New York and an end to political corruption and judicial corruption in Rensselaer County and the state of New York, especially its Department of Environmental Conservation, along with the Department of Health and the Office of Professional Responsibility of the NYS Department of Education.
Life can be short, tkenny, as you say, if you are stupid about it, especially, as many are these days, what with this opioid epidemic killing people in droves, and of course, I let go from the past things I have no control over now, like whether the method that was used to potty train me was the right method or the wrong method, or maybe there was a better method, but we were too poor to afford it.
I’m in my seventies, tkenny, so why today would I be worrying about how I was potty trained?
Paul Plante says
Ten years, tkenny?
I think you are missing a few, dude, given that I started blogging about endemic public corruption in New York state and Rensselaer County on the internet back in 2004, which would make it fourteen years, not ten.
In fact, in 2004, I posted an open letter on the internet to John Kerry concerning endemic public corruption in New York state and Rensselaer County, as follows:
I am an honorably-discharged, twice-wounded, fully disabled Viet Nam war veteran who is a life member of the Military Order of the Purple Heart, the D.A.V., the American Legion, and the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
In that capacity, as an honorably-discharged, fully disabled Viet Nam combat veteran, I am asking you personally on behalf of all other disabled veterans in this area of the State of New York who must rely upon the integrity of the medical health and public health fields in the State of New York to not allow New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer an opportunity to speak at the podium of the Democratic National Convention on the grounds that he is pandering to partisan political interests in the State of New York by countenancing blatant acts of discrimination against myself as a disabled veteran in the State of New York who has been working to expose corruption in county government in the capital district area of State of New York.
Presently, Mr. Kerry, as this appeal is being written to you personally in this community forum, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer is actively engaged in defending in Federal District Court for the Northern District of New York what can only be termed blatant acts of discrimination and retaliation against myself as a disabled Viet Nam veteran in New York State by politicians in the State of New York who wish to permanently suppress myself and my testimony to the Federal Bureau of Investigation concerning Hobbs Act corruption involving politicians in the Capital District area of the State of New York.
To stifle that testimony and evidence, in August of 2001, in the weeks before 9-11, as the record shows, I was the victim of what has become known in the Albany, New York area of the State of New York, as a “psychiatric takedown”.
A “psychiatric takedown” is a defensive political maneuver by which the politicians in the capital district area of New York State have a witness against them removed by the vehicle of having a “pet doctor” sign a psychiatric arrest warrant for the individual which directs the New York State Police to take the individual into custody and transport them to the secure mental health facility of a local hospital, for psychiatric “care and treatment”.
In this manner, the witness is removed, their crediblity is destroyed and their effectiveness as professional witnesses on behalf of the public health of the community is robbed forever.
In this case, the victim, myself, in addition to being a disabled veteran, was also the local public health engineer, who had previously been commended in writing for his integrity by the New York State health Commissioner.
In March of 1989, based upon an investigation conducted by this local public health engineer, the State Health Commissioner, a well-respected medical doctor named David Axelrod, declared that the public health and environment in our county was threatened by an inordinate amount of sewage system failures which were the legacy of ten years worth of negligence in the Environmental Health Division of the State Health Department itself.
A March 1989 Federal Bureau of Investigation report confirmed these findings by Dr. Axelrod, and further noted that the politicians in charge of the county had no intention of cleaning up the corruption, and that to cover matters over after the Axelrod Report, the politicians had me removed from the public health engineer position on grounds that my Viet Nam combat service had rendered me a threat to society.
Thus, ten years of corruption in the environmental health programs of the state public health services in the Capital District area of the State of New York was covered over as if it had never existed, and thus, has flourished up until this time.
In August of 2001, to prevent me from coming forth with videotape evidence demonstrating that these corrupt public health practices have flourished to this day in the capital district area of the State of New York, the politicians attempted a “psychiatric takedown”, and the result has been disastrous for me personally, and all fully disabled veterans who would rely upon me for my integrity and expertise in the public health field to boot.
Presently, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, by and through his New York State Department of Law, is defending the actions of a New York State Veterans’ Service officer who made alleged false statements to the Office of the United States Attorney for the Northern District of New York in connection with the false arrest of myself on mental health grounds.
Because of those false statements, which are still being defended by Eliot Spitzer at this time in the State of New York, despite conclusive evidence to the contrary in his possession, including a graphic videotape portrayal of a violent physical assault on myself intended to deter me from appearing in court in connection with the matter, I have been branded in the State of New York as a dangerous mental patient with no opportunity afforded me whatsoever at due process to either confront or combat this theft of my real identity as an honorable professional person of good standing in the community.
In the face of all of this, which is known to the veterans’ community in capital district area of the State of New York, to then allow Eliot Spitzer to stand up at your side and speak at the Democratic National Convention would be an abomination, a travesty, as far as the protection of the rights of the disabled to equal protection of law goes, as well as the public health protection of the disabled veteran population of the State of New York.
It would make a mockery of all of your promises to the disabled veterans of America to help us have dignity in our own communities, despite our combat-related disabilities, equal to that enjoyed by Max Cleland in his own community in the United States.
Help us prove to America that despite our disabilities, which are often disfiguring, or totally disabling as far as being effective in modern society, that disabled combat veterans are citizens of America too, and that despite our disabilities, we deserve the protection of law in America too.
Help us make this point by keeping Eliot Spitzer off the podium at the DNC.
I remain, sincerely and respectfully, a patriotic disabled American veteran.
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Go back and look it up, tkenny, and you will see that I succeeded in my mission back then, as Spitzer did not speak at that convention, although in his confusion, he blamed it on Chuck Schumer.
It’s about JUSTICE, tkenny.
You know the saying, no justice, no peace, well, it applies to disabled veterans, too.
As to that judicial slime job from the Appellate Court in New York State that you dredged up in an effort to destroy my credibility as a witness in here, which is exactly what those POLITICAL APPOINTEE judges on the Appellate Court in New York were doing back then with that piece of cheese you rely on, this is from my direct testimony as an expert witness submitted to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation in Matter of Lane Construction Company on April 8, 1997:
Q: And did your work as an associate level public health engineer in the Rensselaer County Health District include interpretation of well and surface water data?
A: Yes, that was a large component of it.
Q: And you performed those duties for how long?
A: Between June of 1986 and October 12, 1988.
Q: And what is it that you did after October 12, 1988?
A: I have been on disabled status since that time.
In 1969, as I testified previously, I was an infantryman in Viet Nam.
I was severely wounded by an exploding rocket grenade war head which left me with serious tissue damage in the back of my head and neck, as well as two fragments embedded in my neck in close proximity to my spine.
In 1988, while I was investigating an illegal subdivision of land on Route 150 in the Town of Sand Lake in Rensselaer County, a backhoe operator tried to decapitate me with the bucket of his backhoe and very nearly succeeded.
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That is a bit different from the false story told in the Judicial slime job you are relying on in here to discredit me, is it not, tkenny?
And yes, John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono was very aware of the back hoe assault at the time he “fired” me in March of 1989 after a four-week show trial which generated a transcript Buono never even read that was some 1100 pages along.
As to who I really answered to in the chain of command, tkenny, those words are taken directly from a June 11, 1991 letter on New York State Education Department stationary to myself from a Mr. Lance R. Plunkett, Senior Attorney, Regulations Review Unit, New York State Department of Education who was responding on behalf of Mr. Douglas Hasbrouck, Executive Secretary for the New York State Board for Engineering and Land Surveying in the State of New York, to an inquiry from myself as a licensed professional engineer concerning professional responsibility in corrupt Rensselaer County, to wit:
A local board of health may not confer immunity on a professional engineer from any of the Rules of the Board of Regents defining unprofessional conduct set forth in Part 29 of Title 8 of the Official Compilation of Codes, Rules and Regulations of the State of New York (8 N.Y.C.R.R.).
Sections 6506, 6507, 6508 and 6509 of the New York State Education Law GIVE NO AUTHORITY to local boards of health in PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING OR DISCIPLINE MATTERS.
A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER SHOULD NEVER COMMIT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT.
WHERE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IS GIVEN DIRECTIONS THAT REQUIRE HIM OR HER TO COMMIT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT, IT REMAINS THE OBLIGATION OF THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER NOT TO COMMIT SUCH MISCONDUCT.
Nothing in the definition of the practice of engineering under section 7201 of the Education Law PERMITS AN EXEMPTION FROM PROFESSIONAL DISCIPLINARY VIOLATIONS ON THE GROUNDS OF HAVING FOLLOWED ORDERS FROM A LOCAL HEALTH BOARD.
A professional engineer is ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE for his or her own professional work.
WHILE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER MAY TAKE PURELY ADMINISTRATIVE ORDERS FROM AN UNLICENSED PERSON, THE ENGINEER SHOULD NEVER FOLLOW ORDERS WHICH REQUIRE HIM OR HER TO COMMIT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT.
Again, it is the professional engineer’s PERSONAL OBLIGATION NOT TO COMMIT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT.
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That is the real reason I was “fired,” tkenny, because I would not commit professional misconduct for corrupt Rensselaer County and John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono, who can be seen blatantly obstructing justice in this Albany, New York Times Union article “Buono refuses to cite developers over code” by Laurie Anderson, staff writer, on 19 January 1988:
TROY – Rensselaer County Executive John Buono said the county will attempt to resolve differences with the developers of the Spruce Run subdivision, who allegedly have violated state Health Department codes.
Despite a state Health Department recommendation, Buono said Monday he did not intend to cite Steve Anderson of East Greenbush and his partners in developing the third phase of the 40-acre subdivision for alleged health code violations.
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Buono had absolutely no authority, jurisdiction or discretion to obstruct justice by derailing a Public Health Law prosecution, but notwithstanding, that is exactly what he did.
That is the same Steven Anderson who was featured in a 10 January 1988 Times Union article entitled “Developers see a zealot in new county health officer” by Laurie Anderson, as follows:
Plante is involved in several fierce feuds with developers, the most public of which involves Anderson, who is attempting to rally the county legislature, Buono, and the state Health Department to make Plante more compliant.
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As yes, tkenny, make me more compliant.
But it didn’t work, so I got “fired” after that backhoe assault failed in its mission to murder me.
That’s all the back story your judicial slime job failed to mention.
As to bribes offered and bribes accepted, in that Albany, New York Times Union article “Buono refuses to cite developers over code” by Laurie Anderson, staff writer, on 19 January 1988, Buono was quoted as follows:
“We’re going to try and see if we can work with Mr. Anderson,” Buono said.
“He’ll be invited to come into talk and see if we can come to an agreement.”
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And they did come to an agreement after Buono was offered “eighty thousand BIG ONES” to get rid of me, which he did.
As to myself, that Times Union article had this to say:
In his report, James Decker, the state Health Department’s regional director of environmental health, commended Plante and agreed that Anderson had apparently misunderstood county Health Department regulations.
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That commendation by the state health commissioner was the kiss of death, and it was to defeat that that Buono had those political judges on the Appellate Court issue that slime job you rely on to destroy my credibility as a witness against Buono and the corrupt county in a court of law.
Back to you, tkenny.
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, as we talk about the subject of judicial corruption in another thread in here, do you realize the exquisite, sublime irony you have presented us with in this thread by dragging in that now-totally-discredited and frankly laughable New York State Supreme Court Appellate Division decision in Matter of Plante v. Buono, 172 A.D.2d 81 (1991) in here in a futile effort to try and discredit me?
That case you rely on is in fact a solid text-book example of what judicial corruption does look like in real life, so it is interesting that you would rely on a text-book example of judicial corruption in your futile effort to try to convince the multitude of readers of the CCM that the text-book example of endemic public corruption in New York state and Rensselaer County I have brought up in here as a real-life model of what public corruption looks like in practice, isn’t real.
Do you see the bind you have gotten yourself in here trying that silly maneuver?
Or are you in your own subtle way trying to buttress my arguments by showing people just how far the public corruption, which includes judicial corruption, has spread in corrupt New York state since the 1970s?
You can’t have endemic public corruption, tkenny, without judicial corruption to support it, and by dragging in that bogus Appellate Court decision as you have, you have given us the proof we need to understand just how true that statement is.
For that, tkenny, we owe you a debt of gratitude, and a grateful nation applauds your patriotism and public spiritedness!
Chas Cornweller says
This back and forth between you two guys is enlightening, informational and entertaining! However, it ain’t gonna buy the bulldog. Paul, Kenny is correct in asking the question. What do you hope to accomplish, other than closer, unwanted scrutiny from Big Brother? If, it is local justice for the environment damage done to your hometown, why not harp on local government? Take your case to the state’s court systems. I know for a fact, that the Seneca Falls region (Watkins Glen and surrounding communities) fought the gas companies and won an injunction against fracking and the storage of fracked natural gas in the general vicinity of the Finger Lakes.
Maybe get in touch with some of those folks, huh?
And TKenny, I hear you as well. Paul is seventy…it’s not like he’s going to get his job back even if he won every case at this point! So, you and I are in agreement. Besides, this issue Paul has, really has nothing to do with the Eastern Shore, other than to say, Shore residents, watch your back! And at this, Paul has gone to great and windy lengths to ascertain and put forth with great skill and aplomb. Whether we listen and take action is up to us! The only thing I find fault with our beloved Mr. Plante (other than his long, wordy diatribes – which, at their worst, are tedious at times) is his propensity to lambast those on the left side of the aisle, while giving those on the right side of the aisle a pass. I realize that New York is a blue state (red/blue-what non-sense we’ve reduced ourselves to) and therefore all things blue are in Paul’s sights. However, what is going on with the present administration and the EPA is apocalyptic compared to progress we’ve made in the past. But, that’s a different discussion for a different day. But, for this, Paul holds no accountability. I am curious as to why.
Lastly, I just want to comment on the fact that comments from both you gentlemen always pique my interest. And to the point, both are congenial, timely and fairly sincere and not too bloody harmful to one another. And after all, isn’t that what civil discourse is all about?
One last post script here: This blog site (as far as I can tell) is here through the diligent efforts of one guy, Wayne Creed. Its purpose is to throw light on the actions of those who hold power in the county of Northampton and in the Town of Cape Charles. Sometimes it strays into the workings of other counties and into the environments of surrounding resources (such as the Chesapeake Bay) as well as it should. I find this blog, informative, enlightening, downright humorous at times. But it cannot be easy. The thing that disturbs me most, are the back-biting, name-calling and sometimes mean-spirited nature of some of the comments. I have this to say about that…sometimes what you think is a clever comeback, putdown, and final say; only comes across as ill-informed and snide. Some of you folks only repeat yourselves with no real answers. Showing the rest of us what we already know…you have no real answers. So, what’s the point? I’ll be honest with you all…I have no real answers. (see what I did there?) But, I do have an education. I do have resources and ways of gathering information. I use that. Do us all a favor and try it. You never know what discussion you’ll find yourself in. You might even enjoy it! Until then…God Bless the Eastern Shore. God Bless her inhabitants and all they may aspire to be! Have a wonderful week, month and year. Thanks for the two cents worth.
Paul Plante says
Chas Cornweller, thank you very much for making an appearance here with your comment about “However, it ain’t gonna buy the bulldog, Paul,” which is an etymologically and semantically interesting colloquialism.
Where prey tell, Chas Cornweller, did you ever find that one?
I have to confess that in all my years, I have never heard that one before, so see how true it is that the CCM is a very educational place in CYBERSPACE where you can learn something new every day and be happy about it?
Perhaps it is because I have never had much of an interest in bulldogs, and I have never wanted to buy one for any reason.
By the way, Chas Cornweller, while we are on the subject of just how educational the CCM actually is, did you know that over the course of 350 years, until bull-baiting was banned in 1835, bulldogs were bred for aggression, and an 80-pound dog could easily bring down a bull weighing close to a ton by corkscrewing its own body around its neck, tossing the bull over its own center of gravity?
And what is this sentence to mean, Chas Cornweller: What do you hope to accomplish, other than closer, unwanted scrutiny from Big Brother?
As to what I hope to accomplish, I am in fact accomplishing it as we speak, which is to say, I am telling a story that needs to be told, Chas Cornweller.
I am giving an account of contemporary history that future generations of Americans need to understand to understand why the laws and constitution in this country are little more than a cobweb barrier.
That is the purpose of old people over seventy in this society of ours, Chas Cornweller, to be INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY, and I am surprised you are not aware of that.
Where would you have us – shut away in some in some old folks home far removed from civilized society so our voices can’t be heard?
And WHO in the United States of America, Chas Cornweller, is this “BIG BROTHER” you are talking about that is going to give me “close scrutiny” because I am publicly expressing OPPROBRIUM (harsh criticism or censure) at the corrupt state of our federal government in America today, and especially the judiciary?
Where did we American citizens get a “BIG BROTHER” from, anyway?
And why would this “BIG BROTHER” be a supporter of judicial corruption in this country, Chas Cornweller?
As to this “closer, unwanted scrutiny” from this “BIG BROTHER,” Chas Cornweller, whatever in fact it may be beyond a boogie man to scare children with, I am holding in my hand a Federal Bureau of Investigation file concerning myself that is about an inch think, and with respect to the cover-up of public corruption in New York State and the County of Rensselaer by the Office of the United States Attorney for the Northern District of New York, it makes for some very interesting reading.
In there, I am described on one page as a “very honorable man” and “absolutely good.”
On another page, the corrupt Rensselaer County Department of Health was called “very lax in their enforcement of state and county health regulations as those regulations applied to realty subdivisions because the Rensselaer Country Health Department was, before PAUL PLANTE, unprofessional and seemed to have a very relaxed ‘live and let live attitude towards development and developers,'” which takes us back to my comment to tkenny above about the serious problem the greedy, white-collar profiteers with a lot of political clout and more than forty-four billion dollars in illicit funds were confronted with in New York state in and after 1976, where they needed a laundry to launder their dirty money, which means land subdivisions and strip malls, with land subdivisions in New York State by law requiring health department approval, so that if you had to move a lot of dirty money, and you had a lot of dirty money you had to move, then control of as many county health departments as possible was a necessity, which I was put in place to put an end to, Chas Cornweller, although as tkenny is quick to point out, in a top-to-bottom corrupt county, as his discredited court decisions make clear, I failed miserably.
So what is up with this “unwanted scrutiny,” Chas Cornweller?
Where is that going to come from, prey tell?
And being afraid of corruption and what it can do to you to harm you and your family so that you hide in your basement and keep your mouth shut like so many Americans do today is an act of moral cowardice, is it not, Chas Cornweller?
Would you have me be a moral coward, Chas Cornweller, in order to keep this “close, unwanted scrutiny” by “BIG BROTHER” off of me?
Is that your message here?
As to the court system in New York state, Chas Cornweller, I have been there many times against the Attorney General of the state of New York and other hotshot attorneys up here, and I have gone through them like the proverbial hot knife through butter, and you know what, Chas Cornweller?
All you end up with is a stack of worthless paper, because the corrupt state and local officials simply slough those decisions off, knowing that nothing will be done against them.
And it should be also noted that I successfully defended myself in a jury trial against false criminal charges levied against myself by the corrupt district attorney up here after I was the victim of a retaliatory hit-and-run vehicular assault on December 29, 1989.
So there is some close scrutiny by “BIG BROTHER” for you to ponder, Chas Cornweller.
And Chas Cornweller, please watch my lips as I speak here – in New York state, engineers like myself have a license from the state to PRACTICE as professional engineers to protect and safeguard life, health and property.
So we don’t have “jobs” like somebody working for McDonald’s or Walmart; we have duties and responsibilities, which is a point I am surprised you and tkenny have so much trouble understanding, and it goes to show just how differently we take our responsibilities as American citizens.
To you and tkenny and many others, it is about loyalty to a political party, in your case, the Democrats or Democratic Socialists of America who use the Democrat party as their stalking horse, whereas I have never been loyal to any political party.
My loyalties are to the people of the United States of America, not the worthless Republican party, or the equally worthless Democrat party, and there is where the communications break-down between us occurs, as your generation does not consider duty and responsibility in the same light as I do.
As to this issue having everything to do with the Eastern Shore, Chas Cornweller, which I understand is still a part of the United States of America, of course it does because we are talking about a corrupt judge being put on the United States Supreme Court by Barack Hussein Obama, which is a national issue, not a local issue, and besides, Chas Cornweller, the ultimate arbiter of what gets printed in the CCM, which is a national or international publication, not a local one, or I wouldn’t be here, is Wayne Creed.
The fact that he allows the dialogue to go on should serve as proof positive to you that he sees value to the people of Virginia on the Eastern Shore in keeping the conversation alive, so why do you doubt his judgment on that score?
Do you think the people of the Eastern Shore of Virginia cannot handle the truth, Chas Cornweller?
Or would you rather the CCM gave them no truth to have to handle?
What are your thoughts on that question?
Mike Kuzma, Jr. says
Hey Chas? I am as Right as they come and Paul and I are at loggerheads frequently.
Ergo, your pablum about him not attacking both sides is false.
As for his colloquy on his travails with the Government, it is meant to enlighten and I for one applaud his commitment to the truth and the People.
Now go wrap yourself in your chains, sir.
A bien tot!!!
Paul Plante says
Mike, you are not only as right as they come, but you are rational, as well.
Should there be REPUBLICAN licensed professional engineers to do “favors” for REPUBLICANS, and DEMOCRAT licensed professional engineers to do favors for DEMOCRATS?
Or should there be licensed professional engineers who actually are professional, and therefore non-aligned with any party, to actually do what engineers are licensed to do, which is to protect and safeguard life, health and property, which means standing up for people and doing equal justice for all, whether rich or poor?
Are the lives of the poor of less value than those of the rich?
And what about judges?
Should there be DEMOCRAT judges and REPUBLICAN judges?
Isn’t that really a prime characteristic of a true ****HOLE NATION, to have partisan judges who lie and bury evidence to protect political corruption?
Consider this on that subject from an article by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners entitled “Bribery on the Bench: A Look at Judicial Corruption” by Jordan Underhill, J.D., Research Specialist, CFE, to wit:
A malleable judiciary can be used by those in power to provide protection for and lend legitimacy to fraudulent acts.
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As you make clear above here, Mike, that is really what we are talking about in here, not whether I could “get my job back” with corrupt Rensselaer County in New York state or not – a malleable federal judiciary being used by those in power to provide protection for and lend legitimacy to fraudulent acts, which this is a classic textbook case of.
As an aside, why on earth would I want a job with a corrupt governmental agency in any state or municipality?
Getting back to “Bribery on the Bench: A Look at Judicial Corruption,” the author then provides as follows:
Judges might also collude with politicians in a variety of different white-collar crimes, such as extortion, money laundering and embezzlement.
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BINGO!
That is what a ****HOLE NATION requires to classify it as an actual ****HOLE NATION, as we see from this following from that same article:
A recently uncovered $1.5 billion fraud and money laundering scheme by the executive branch of the Maldives heavily involved the judiciary.
Senior members of the judiciary allegedly received money and luxury apartments as part of the scheme.
The judiciary was also allegedly used as a tool by the executive branch to intimidate opponents with politically motivated cases.
The former president of the Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, described the judiciary as “the most corrupt institution in the country.”
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Now, that is what a real ****HOLE NATION looks life in real life, and let the DEMOCRATS scream and holler and bay at the moon with their ‘Tears of Rage,”‘ while Cory Booker blows a gasket at the characterization to express his own “tears of rage” over my “s**thole countries” remark.
Focus on this one sentence from that article: The judiciary was also allegedly used as a tool by the executive branch to intimidate opponents with politically motivated cases.
There is Sonia Sotomayor.
That is what this discussion is about – why are the Democrats and Republicans turning MY nation into another ****HOLE NATION with the judiciary as the most corrupt institution in the country?
More to the point, why are Chas Cornweller and tkenny so welcoming of that, the reduction of the United States of America into ****HOLE NATION status, and why are they so tolerant and accepting of public corruption protected by judicial corruption?
Those are the questions I would like them to address, if they can.
And for the record, John L. “Smiling Jack” Buono was a REPUBLICAN as was Kathleen Jimino, the one who in 2001 “procured” that fraudulent psychiatric arrest order from a political doctor at Samaritan Hospital in Troy, New York, and Eliot “Longshanks” Spitzer, who covered Jimino’s action was a DEMOCRAT, so what real difference is there between the two, besides nothing?
With respect to another aspect of a true ****HOLE NATION, as our dear friend and fellow patriot tkenny says above by way of an example, that I certainly was able to follow – a doctor like John Christian Braaten, the issuer of the fraudulent psychiatric arrest order that was given the federal government seal of approval in December of 2005, is licensed by the corrupt state that I am.
As tkenny says, and as I have demonstrated above, on paper, there are indeed written rules and regulations that the state hands down, and if this was not a corrupt ****HOLE up here thanks to Sonia Sotomayor, one would actually have to follow those rules, which is what I was doing when the hammer of corruption came down on my head.
“Those rules mean nothing, you do what you are told to do, or else!”
I opted for the “or else” part of the equation, which is what this real-life story is all about, while John Christain Braaten took the other route.
As tkenny says, a doctor working in a hospital has to report to the administration of the hospital, there are rules established by the administration that they have to follow, and failure to follow those rules can end up in termination, so when John Christian Braaten was told by the administration of Samaritan Hospital of Tro6y, New York to issue a fraudulent psychiatric arrest order to REPUBLICAN Rensselaer County Executive Kathleen Jimino on 8/22/01, like a good drone or soldier, he complied, and so got to keep his job.
My nose might not be the best one on the planet, but I could never tell the difference between the stink of a corrupt REPUBLICAN versus the stink of a corrupt DEMOCRAT – they all smelled the same to me, the same miasma of corruption emanating from both parties.
So, so much for that.
To close, Mike, I am very sorry about the loss of your friend on 9-11.
Would that it could have been different, but it wasn’t.
Paul Plante says
tkenny, dude, without looking to the left or the right, and by way of summarizing in order to keep this discussion educational and on a high intellectual plane in keeping with the high editorial standards of the Cape Charles Mirror, which may well be one of the last bastions of freedom here in the United States of America, a place where the voices of common, ordinary Americans without money or political clout can still be heard on matters of importance to ALL Americans, issues such as judicial corruption in the highest court in the land, and to clear up the confusion caused by that judicial dreck from the Appellate Court in the corrupt state of New York you have dragged in here in a futile effort to convince the readers of the CCM that I am somehow confused and mentally disturbed when I talk in here about Sonia Sotomayor being associated with judicial corruption to the point of being a poster child for judicial corruption, it is in fact indisputable that on August 16, 2005, Assistant New York State Solicitor General Julie M. Sheridan submitted a letter to Sonia Sotomayor through Appeals Court Clerk Roseann MacKechnie wherein she called for my Amended Federal Civil Rights Petition to be dismissed because my “constitutional claims were not viable, because the very premise of those claims – namely that plaintiff had been involuntarily committed – was false.”
It is further indisputable, tkenny, that when Assistant New York State Solicitor General Julie M. Sheridan stated in that August 16, 2005 letter to Sonia Sotomayor through Appeals Court Clerk Roseann MacKechnie that my Amended Federal Civil Rights Petition should be dismissed because my “constitutional claims were not viable, because the very premise of those claims – namely that plaintiff had been involuntarily committed – was false,” she was lying through her teeth, and she knew it.
(As an aside, lawyers are the one class of people in America who can go to court under oath and still lie through their teeth without ever having to be concerned with being called to account for it.)
Notwithstanding, it is indisputable that Sonia Sotomayor bought those lies, and in doing so, she lied herself, so it indisputable that judges in America do lie, even United States appeals court judges on their way to the United States Supreme Court.
Do you dispute any of that, tkenny?
If so, on what grounds?
And notice that in her August 16, 2005 letter to Sotomayor, Assistant New York State Solicitor General Julie M. Sheridan informed Sotomayor that my amended complaint was the “operative complaint here,” which was an admission by Sheridan to Sotomayor that my constitutional claims were viable, because the very premise of those claims – namely that I had been involuntarily committed – was true, because it is indisputable that in the case of a federal civil rights in federal court, before an complaint can be amended, it has to withstand challenges on standing to sue.
Only after standing can be established can the suit go forward with an amended complaint.
So it is indisputable, tkenny, from that August 16, 2005 letter to Sotomayor from Assistant New York State Solicitor General Julie M. Sheridan, that when Sotomayor bought those lies of Sheridan in 2005 and dismissed my complaint, that from the fact of the amended complaint that Sotomayor would know she was lying, and did so, anyway, with intent to lie and deceive.
Why then, tkenny, would a sane, rational person want somebody like Sonia Sotomayor on the United States Supreme Court?
Only an unstable person would want such a person as a federal judge, tkenny, or do you dispute that contention?
Getting back to the indisputables here, it is indisputable that my standing in federal court was based on sworn admissions of New York State Assistant Attorney General Lisa Ullman who had submitted a sworn affidavit to Rensselaer County Supreme Court dated August 16, 2002, approximately one (1) year after my false arrest, wherein was stated under oath as follows:
Lisa Ullman, being a duly licensed attorney in the State of New York and an Assistant Attorney General in the offices of Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General of the State of New York, does hereby affirm under penalties of perjury pursuant to CPLR 2106:
2. This proceeding was commenced by pro se petitioner Plante under Article 78 of the Civil Procedure Law and Rules (“CPLR”), who requested a court order compelling the release of certain mental health records.
Specifically, Petitioner had been involuntarily committed to the Veteran’s Administration Hospital pursuant to Mental Hygiene Law 9.45 for several hours on August 22, 2001, and had obtained redacted versions of documents pertaining to that commitment.
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SLAM DUNK, tkenny, what the legal crowd likes to call an open-and-shut case.
What better evidence could there be of wrongdoing in this case, tkenny, than a sworn statement from an Assistant Attorney General in the offices of Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General of the State of New York, that I had been involuntarily committed to the Veteran’s Administration Hospital pursuant to Mental Hygiene Law 9.45 for several hours on August 22, 2001?
For Sonia Sotomayor to toss my federal civil rights case in 2005, which she did, she had to bury that sworn admission of New York State Assistant Attorney General Lisa Ullman who had submitted a sworn affidavit to Rensselaer County Supreme Court dated August 16, 2002, wherein she confirmed I had been involuntarily committed to the Veteran’s Administration Hospital pursuant to Mental Hygiene Law 9.45 for several hours on August 22, 2001, which in fact Sotomayor did.
Or do you dispute that, tkenny?
Do you think maybe a dog ate the sworn affidavit of New York State Assistant Attorney General Lisa Ullman that had been submitted to Rensselaer County Supreme Court dated August 16, 2002, wherein she confirmed I had been involuntarily committed to the Veteran’s Administration Hospital pursuant to Mental Hygiene Law 9.45 for several hours on August 22, 2001, so that Julie Sheridan and Sonia Sotomayor could not possibly have known of it?
And isn’t burying evidence an act of judicial corruption, tkenny?
So why do we want Sonia Sotomayor sitting on OUR United States Supreme Court?
Because she is a Latina, not an American, and it is their turn to be federal Supreme Court Judges?
And if federal judges lie, tkenny, why not appellate court judges in New York state?
On another note, tkenny, record rainfall over there in France as it turns tropical from all the nuke plants it has.
Paul Plante says
And this just might be one of those times and places where Mike and I are at loggerheads, because I don’t think we should excoriate (censure or criticize severely) or castigate (reprimand someone severely) our dear friend and fellow American patriot Chas Cornweller too severely here for his lack of understanding as to why I am calling for Sonia Sotomayor to resign from the United States Supreme Court for the good of the nation.
It is his lack of understanding that should be our concern, why that state of ignorance of our frame of Constitutional government xists in the first place, and thus, we should endeavor to do our utmost to cure his ignorance, as opposed to condemning Chas Cornweller for being ignorant of what actually transpires in real court proceedings, as opposed to what you see on TV in Judge Judy’s courtroom, for example.
Light one small candle instead of cursing the darkness, as Bishop Fulton J. Sheehan used to say on TV way back when.
Bring our dear friend and fellow correspondent Chas Cornweller out of the eternal darkness of benighted ign0rance and into the light of day.
De-program Chas Cornweller so he stops thinking like a Democrat drone, and then re-program so he starts thinking like an American citizen.
Don’t discard Chas Cornweller as useless simply because he is a Democrat.
And it comes back to nuance and subtlety, people.
What our dear friend Chas Cornweller fails to grasp, or is unable for whatever reason, political programming for instance, to grasp is that when the New York State Attorney General makes an appearance in federal district court, and then the federal 2d Circuit Court of Appeals in New York City, as was the case here, the actuality and reality that Chas Cornweller completely and totally misses due to his ignorance here, which I see as excusable ignorance, or even innocent ignorance, it is THE STATE OF NEW YORK making that appearance.
In other words, when the Attorney General of the State of New York comes to federal court, it is not Eliot “Longshanks” Spitzer coming to court, and it is not Sonia Sotomayor waiting there to greet him warmly.
It is THE STATE OF NEW YORK, one of the “united” states of America, meeting the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America, of which it is a component part, and what the STATE OF NEW YORK was doing in this case, in essence, was asking the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America for its permission to “attaint” or “proscribe” myself by what would be considered a “writ of outlawry” or “bill of pains and penalties” in the guise of a fraudulent New York State Mental Hygiene Law § 9.45 involuntary psychiatric commitment order, which, of course, would be in violation of Clause 3 of Article I of the United States Constitution, “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed,” but hey, who really does give a damn today about what the United States Constitution has written in it, because the truth is, people, it really no longer exists.
Hence Chas Cornweller’s ignorance of it.
For those unfamiliar with the term “attaint” or “proscribe” (denounce or condemn; outlaw someone), since in the United States of America today, they should be archaic terms, Findlaw tells us as follows:
”Bills of attainder . . . are such special acts of the legislature, as inflict capital punishments upon persons supposed to be guilty of high offences, such as treason and felony, without any conviction in the ordinary course of judicial proceedings.”
“If an act inflicts a milder degree of punishment than death, it is called a bill of pains and penalties. . . .”
“In such cases, the legislature assumes judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the guilt of the party without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs are within its reach, whether they are conformable to the rules of evidence, or not.”
“In short, in all such cases, the legislature exercises the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deems political necessity or expediency, and too often under the influence of unreasonable fears, or unfounded suspicions.”
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In this case, the legislature of the County of Rensselaer, by funding the acquisition of the fraudulent psychiatric arrest order which started this legal action, did in fact exercise the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deemed political necessity, which in a sane and rational world, which this clearly no longer is, that would have been a clear-cut violation of Clause 3 of Article I of the United States Constitution.
And by funding the subsequent “prosecution” of myself in federal court as an alleged mentally ill and dangerous person (a societal outlaw), while at the same time defending the “right” of the “state” to “proscribe” me as such, the legislatures of the State of New York and the County of Rensselaer did in act assume judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the “guilt” of myself without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and without satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs were clearly within its reach.
By doing so, they went to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America in the form of Sonia Sotomayor, and there, the STATE OF NEW YORK asked the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America to approve that assumption by the legislature of the State of New York and the legislature of the County of Rensselaer of judicial magistracy in this specific case, and in this specific case, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America, in the person of Sonia Sotomayor, granted the STATE OF NEW YORK a constitutional dispensation (exemption from a rule or usual requirement) so that it could in fact proscribe me, as happened.
Why was I proscribed?
Because I was honest and would not take bribes or honor bribes taken by others.
By approving the proscription of myself for being too honest, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America denied the people of Rensselaer County of the honest services of a licensed professional engineer to protect and safeguard their life, health and property as intended by § 3 of Article XVII of the New York State Constitution, entitled “Social Welfare,” which states in no uncertain terms as follows:
§3. The protection and promotion of the health of the inhabitants of the state are matters of public concern and provision therefor shall be made by the state and by such of its subdivisions and in such manner, and by such means as the legislature shall from time to time determine. (New. Adopted by Constitutional Convention of 1938 and approved by vote of the people November 8, 1938.)
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Denial of honest services is a federal crime.
That is what Sonia Sotomayor put the federal government seal of approval on in 2005, and as a result, children in Hoosick Falls, New York, admittedly a low-income area with no political clout or the money to buy it with, ended up being poisoned by drinking water contaminated by the carcinogen PFOA.
That is why Sonia Sotomayor does not belong on the United States Supreme Court.
She cannot be trusted with our lives and well-being in her hands, because she has proven herself unworthy of such trust.
And to address the concern of Chas Cornweller that we shouldn’t be talking about that in here because the underlying events being discussed didn’t happen in Cape Charles or Northampton County, Virginia, I would respond by saying that in 1970, the firm of Coffee and Weddington filed suit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas on behalf of McCorvey under the alias Jane Roe with defendant in the case being Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade, who represented the State of Texas.
Today, we know that all across America as Roe v. Wade, without having a clue, most of us, as to how it came to be a Supreme Court precedent across the land.
Applying the logic put forth by Chas Cornweller in this discussion that events in New York State concerning the federal judiciary should not be discussed or of interest on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, then it should follow from that logic that the only place in America where Roe v. Wade should be of any concern is in Dallas County in the state of Texas.
But as Roe v. Wade has made clear, the federal law is not restricted to one small place on a map, like Dallas County, Texas, or Rensselaer County in the corrupt state of New York.
Federal precedents affect us all, and bad federal precedents, like this Sotomayor decision under discussion in here, affect us all in an adverse way, unless we are dishonest, of course, and then we would welcome this bad precedent.
To conclude, as Findlaw tells us, the phrase ”bill of attainder,” as used in Clause 3 of Article I of the United States Constitution and in Clause 1 of Sec. 10, applies to bills of pains and penalties as well as to the traditional bills of attainder, and of importance to this discussion, the prohibition embodied in Clause 3 of Article I of the United States Constitution is not to be strictly and narrowly construed in the context of traditional forms but is to be interpreted in accordance with the designs of the framers so as to preclude trial by legislature, a violation of the separation of powers concept.
The clause thus prohibits all legislative acts, ”no matter what their form, that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial. . . .”
Until Sonia Sotomayor, that is.
Paul Plante says
Another critical aspect of the nuance and subtlety underlying this case that our dear friend and fellow American patriot-in-his-own-way Chas Cornweller completely and totally misses here is that in asking the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America in the guise of federal 2d Circuit Court of Appeals judge Sonia Sotomayor in 2005 for its permission to “attaint” or “proscribe” myself by what would be considered a “writ of outlawry” or “bill of pains and penalties” in the guise of a fraudulent New York State Mental Hygiene Law § 9.45 involuntary psychiatric commitment order, which, of course, would be in violation of Clause 3 of Article I of the United States Constitution, “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed,” the STATE OF NEW YORK was making a legal presumption that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America had such authority to grant, and by then granting the STATE OF NEW YORK that authority to strip me of my Constitutional rights, Sonia Sotomayor did in fact grant such authority to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America, which means the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States of America has that authority to strip people of their ciyil rights for speaking out about government or challenging government in all of the other forty-nine states, including the home state of Chas Cornweller, the Old Dominion, Virginia.
Accordingly, people here to the north who are faithful readers of the Cape Charles Mirror wonder how our dear friend and fellow CCM correspondent would take it if all of a sudden, the Trump administration, which our dear friend Chas Cornweller has spoken ill of and disparagingly about, were to realize what a powerful political weapon Sonia Sotomayor has granted it, with her 2005 precedent that the only proof required to prove that someone is mentally ill and dangerous to society-at-large and in need of immediate incarceration in a secure mental institution is that they spoke out about government in public and challenged it, so that one day, based on that precedent, our dear friend Chas Cornweller were to find himself the target of a fraudulent psychiatric arrest order that he would learn the existence of when his front door came crashing off its hinges as for or more burly “state security” personnel poured into his room to throw him to the floor and hold him there face down by the back of the neck, while he was put into four-point restraints for transport to a secure mental facility for some mind-wiping and political re-orientation, all because he spoke disparagingly about Donald Trump.
Precedent is precedent, afterall.
Based on that, perhaps Chas Cornweller will consider the question and come back to let us know how he would appreciate it if the tables were turned and it was he who was condemned for the rest of his life based on a fraudulent certification that he, Chas Cornweller, was mentally ill and dangerous and in need of immediate incarceration in that secure mental faculty because he dared to speak out in public about corruption in the administration of Donald Trump.
Or is it a case of sauce for my goose and a different sauce for his gander?
I hope he does, because a curious nation and the candid world that watches would like to know.
Paul Plante says
Chas Cornweller wrote: Because I don’t see you as a liberal.
You are at best (as far as I can discern from your writings) a libertarian.
But, (again, as far as I can discern from your writings) not a very tolerant one.
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Chas Cornweller, in addition to being a cool dude, you are also a hoot!
Has anyone told you that before?
If not, let me be the first!
When I read your statement above that I am “at best (as far as I can discern from your writings) a libertarian,” I erupted in howls of, laughter, and you know what, Chas Cornweller, as you get older, and one day, even you will have to confront this, it is good to have things like that to laugh at.
So you have relegated (consign or dismiss to an inferior rank or position) me to a very low rung or level of American society.
How dismissive (feeling or showing that something is unworthy of consideration) of you that was, Chas Cornweller.
It makes the casual reader have to wonder at your lack of tolerance (showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with) here, but you know what, Chas Cornweller; I can live with it.
If you are in tolerant towards others, even myself, that does not confront me, any, because I have tolerance (the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with) towards others, including even yourself.
Afterall, we are fellow American patriots, are we not?
As to the libertarians, Chas Cornweller, in a thread in here on September 3, 2017 entitled “Some Musings on the American Values of Today” http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/some-musings-on-the-american-values-of-today/ I discussed their values in an open forum and in there, I made it quite clear that their values are not my values, which is to say, I am not now, nor have I ever been a libertarian, nor do I vote for libertarians, just as I do not vote for either Republicans or Democrats, a point I made quite clear in here in a posting on August 20 2016 at 10:53 pm http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/neorepublican-catastrophe-or-neoliberal-disaster-green-party-offers-another-way/
As to my values, Chas Cornweller, as I stated in here previously, although yes, it was more than five seconds ago, they are quite simple and are eloquently expressed as follows at page 2 of THE SOLDIER’S HANDBOOK for the U.S. Army circa 1968 which was issued to me as a U.S. soldier on entering basic training that year:
Each individual in this nation has the duty to contribute as much as he can TO THE WELL-BEING of the nation and its people.
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Is that a hard sentence to comprehend or understand?
And as to what I consider to be universal American values, or what universal American values should be, those thoughts come from the political essay “A Citizen of America: An Examination Into the Leading Principles of America” by Noah Webster dated October 17, 1787, as follows:
The preamble to the constitution is declaratory of the purposes of our union, and the assumption of any powers not necessary to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, will be unconstitutional, and endanger the existence of Congress.
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Am I intolerant of the assumption of any powers by public officials at any level, and yes, this even includes the president, who is nothing more than just another American citizen like me, not a demi-god, not necessary to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity?
Of course.
Aren’t you?
And yes, Chas Cornweller, as long as there are veterans in America like me to watch out for your rights for you, while you go on about your business of relegating people like me into Hillary Clinton’s BASKET OF DEPLORABLES, there will be no laws in this country against the indiscriminate mixing of metaphors in posts to the Cape Charles Mirror.
Which then takes us to my question to you above as to whether it is your operating premise that the people of N0rthampton County, Virginia are better off being totally ignorant as to what is taking place outside their county, to which you replied, “No, in fact a lot of what is happening outside their county does directly affect them.”
And my question “Should the Cape Charles Mirror add a feature like many in Congress now have that only allow comments from certain zip codes,” to which you replied “No, definitely not.”
And my question, “should Wayne Creed then modify the history section in here so that it does not make mention of any other history in any other part of the world,” to which you replied “And again, no, learning history is good, repeating it…bad,” which sentiments I am in complete agreement with.
Which then takes us to your statement “I am referring to the blog being about Cape Charles and surrounding areas. What does that have to do with Judge Sonia Sotomayor?”
Judge Sonia Sotomayor is dishonest, Chas Cornweller.
She buried evidence to bury a civil rights case by an American citizen.
She replaced the truth with lies she knew to be lies.
She made a mockery of her judicial oath, and a mockery of the concept of rule of law, itself.
She cast disgrace by her actions o the federal court itself.
What doesn’t that have to do with Cape Charles and surrounding areas?