In interview with the New York Times, Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the government’s coronavirus taskforce, admitted that he did not level with the American people about how many people would need to be vaccinated in order to achieve herd immunity.
He did not think the public was ready to hear his true thoughts, which he feared might discourage people from getting vaccinated.
The Times article followed Dr. Fauci’s changing position on how many Americans would need to be vaccinated, which he initially stated would be 60-70 percent. A month ago, Fauci’s then suggested that the figure was actually 70-75 percent. Last week, in an interview with CNBC, he upped that figure (again) to “75 to 80-plus percent.”
In the interview with the Times, he changed his estimate yet again and suggested that the figure actually may be “close to 90 percent.”
“When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent,” Dr. Fauci said. “Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,’ so I went to 80, 85.”
“We need to have some humility here,” he added. “We really don’t know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I’m not going to say 90 percent.”
Translation: “I’ve been lying to you for months because you were too stupid to handle it”
Paul Plante says
So, is the fault on the part of the liar, or is it really where it has belonged all along – with those lied to for months at least because they were too stupid and too lazy to even make a feeble effort to think for themselves?
Ghall says
That’s a lie? How about these?
In Wisconsin, there are approximately 70,000 absentee ballots that do not have matching ballot applications as required by law.”
Says he’s the one who gave the nickname “Mad Dog” to former Defense Secretary James Mattis.
“If we stopped testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”
“I never called John (McCain) a loser.”
“Rogue” Michigan official sent absentee ballots to 7.7 million people “illegally and without authorization” ahead of the primaries and general election.
“We’ve tested more than every country combined.”
The coronavirus “snuck up on us,” adding that it is “a very unforeseen thing.”
“I was the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your healthcare.”
Originally “almost all models predicted” Dorian would hit Alabama.
“There has never been, ever before, an administration that’s been so open and transparent.”
“The noise (from windmills) causes cancer.”
“The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records, so okay, they’re at a record level.”
“In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say ‘oh that’s a conspiracy theory.’ Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people.”
Says troops recently received “one of the biggest pay raises” ever, and that it was the first pay increase in “more than 10 years.”
In light of the above, what Fauci said was nothing more than a reassessment of his statement.
Publius Americanus says
Biggest lie ever?
Any Democrat saying ” I Love and Respect America”.
Liberalism Delenda Est.
Scotiagirl says
His comments illustrate what many have suspected throughout this mess, that DOCTOR Fauci is a publicity -seeking little prick who is using the fear and confusion he spreads to elevate himself into fame. He should do us all a favour and slither back into the well earned oblivion from which he arose.
MJM says
Our very serious trust issues with the leaders of the A.M.A, the NIAID, big pharma and their compadres in like medical marketing positions began to become very apparent when they all conspired against the American public and rolled out the abomination called ” The Affordable Care Act”. Just like the swamp called Trump a Russian operative, they called Obamacare “affordable”. Of all the freaking nerve, causing all that turmoil for all the families who could’t keep their Drs, couldn’t afford the new doubled and tripled premiums, all the co pays that doubled, and all of the deductibles that went from $500 to $5,000. This is where Dr. Fauci comes from. The middle of that septic boondoggle that screwed damn near every American, and seriously improved the bottom line of the entire medical industry. When a Dr. enters the world of politics he will move the goal posts any time he wishes because that’s what politics does to the speaker with the mic.. It makes the politician feed the press any words they need to hear to make an attempt at placing the whole deal in a positive light. The same situation occurs when a businessman eners the world of politics, and it is how and why Trump’s statements changed. The situation does evolve, or change, and when the same question is asked over and over again, the response needs to evolve with the evolving situation. There are 2 big differences with Fauci and Trump. The press paints a positive picture of Fauci so they virtually ignore the change, but the call Trump a liar and they write as much bad press about as they can. The press is, and protects the swamp while they negatively feed Trump to the gators. The 2nd and more important difference is that Fauci isn’t trying to find solutions. He’s simply movng the goal posts around to enlarge the swamp. Trump ? He’s seeking true solutions for the good of Americans.
Paul Plante says
Fauci is on the radio news this morning saying that “normalcy” will now return in the fall of 2021.
Slide Easy says
Funk tony fauci….he sent 400 million to wuhan during barry’s abortion of two terms, to study….wait for it….corona viruses and bats. You can not make this sh1t up. Tar and feathers is what lil tony fauci should receive for starters.
Scotiagirl says
Scotiagirl is so relieved that others, maybe even Fauci himself, will return to “normal” but not until the fall of 2021. Her many admirers just inundated her with new MASKS over which she hopes to continue batting her big Brown eyes when she encounters a man of interest to her.
Paul Plante says
Speaking of Fauci, a politician posing as an infectious disease expert on television, not coming clean with us, which should surprise no one, REUTERS just had out an interesting article on the subject of COVID vaccine shots entitled “Vaccinated U.S. nurse contracts COVID-19, expert says Pfizer shot needed more time to work – ABC” by Reuters Staff on December 30, 2020, which started out as follows:
(Reuters) – A nurse in California tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving Pfizer Inc’s vaccine, an ABC News affiliate reported on Tuesday, but a medical expert and the U.S. drug maker said the body needs more time to build up protection.
Pfizer “will review all available information on this case and all reports of any confirmed diagnosis following vaccination,” the drug maker said in a statement to Reuters.
“Based on our Phase 3 safety and efficacy study, the vaccine provides some protection against COVID-19 within about 10 days of the first dose and substantially boosted after the second dose, supporting the need for a 2-dose vaccination series”, it said.
“Individuals may have contracted disease prior to or right after vaccination”, the statement added.
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Is this something we perhaps should know, as people all over America get all gah-gah and giddy with glee over these vaccines, thinking the vaccines will actually protect them from COVID?
Seems so to me, anyway, which takes us back to that story as follows:
Matthew W., 45, a nurse at two different local hospitals, said in a Facebook post on December 18 that he had received the Pfizer vaccine, telling the ABC News affiliate that his arm was sore for a day but that he had suffered no other side-effects.
Six days later on Christmas Eve, he became sick after working a shift in the COVID-19 unit, the report added.
He got the chills and later came down with muscle aches and fatigue.
He went to a drive-up hospital testing site and tested positive for COVID-19 the day after Christmas, the report said.
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So, you can get the vaccine, at least the first shot, and still contact COVID, which is something to consider, and that takes us back to the story once again as follows:
Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist with Family Health Centers of San Diego, told the ABC News affiliate that this scenario was not unexpected.
“We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine,” Ramers said.
“That first dose we think gives you somewhere around 50%, and you need that second dose to get up to 95%.”
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“We think?”
And the waiting time for the 2d dose is around a month if I recall, so how safe are you going to be if you take the vaccine?
Is it something you want to bet your life on?
Paul Plante says
Moderna COVID-19 vaccine causes swelling and inflammation in patients who have cosmetic facial fillers
– ABC 7, WLS-TV Chicago
Scotiagirl says
Gosh, if this is true that the vaccine will cause “swelling and inflammation” in those who have had “cosmetic facial fillers”, and if Nancy Pelosi takes the vaccine it is likely that she will EXPLODE…!
Paul Plante says
That would be interesting and newsworthy.
Paul Plante says
CNBC
“South African Covid variant appears to ‘obviate’ antibody drugs, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says”
Emily DeCiccio @EmilyDeCiccio
Published Wed, Jan 6 2021
Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned that vaccinating Americans against Covid is more critical than ever, especially as the new South Africa variant appears to inhibit antibody drugs.
“The South Africa variant is very concerning right now because it does appear that it may obviate some of our medical countermeasures, particularly the antibody drugs,” said the former FDA chief in the Trump administration in an interview on CNBC’s “The News with Shepard Smith” on Tuesday evening.
“Right now that strain does appear to be prevalent in South America and Brazil, the two parts of the world, right now, that are in their summer, but also experiencing a very dense epidemic, and that’s concerning.
The South African variant is also known as 501.V2, and in mid-December officials reported that 501.V2 had been largely replacing other strains of the coronavirus as early as November.
Gottlieb cited experimental evidence from Bloom Lab, and explained 501.V2 does appear to partially escape prior immunity.
It means that some of the antibodies people produce when they get infected with Covid, as well as the antibody drugs, may not be quite as effective.
“The new variant has mutated a part of the spike protein that our antibodies bind to, to try to clear the virus itself, so this is concerning,” Gottlieb said.
“Now, the vaccine can become a backstop against these variants really getting more of a foothold here in the United States, but we need to quicken the pace of vaccination.”
More than 17 million Covid vaccine doses have been distributed to states, but only 4.8 million Americans have received their first shot according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“It really is a race against time trying to get more vaccine into people’s arms before these new variants become more prevalent here in the United States,” said Gottlieb.
Paul Plante says
CNBC
“White House Covid task force warns of possible new ‘USA variant’ driving spread”
Berkeley Lovelace Jr. @BerkeleyJr Noah Higgins-Dunn @higginsdunn Will Feuer @WillFOIA
Published Fri, Jan 8 2021
The White House coronavirus task force said there could be a new variant of the virus that evolved in the U.S. and is driving spread, according to a document obtained by NBC News.
The strain variant, in addition to the U.K. variant, is already spreading in communities and may be 50% more transmissible, according to the report that was issued to states on Jan. 3.
The task force said the recent spike in cases has been at nearly twice the rate seen in the spring and summer seasons, according to the report.
The U.S. is recording at least 228,400 new Covid-19 cases and at least 2,760 virus-related deaths each day, based on a seven-day average calculated by CNBC using Johns Hopkins University data.
The U.S. reported its deadliest day Thursday with more than 4,000 deaths.
“This acceleration suggests there may be a USA variant that has evolved here, in addition to the UK variant that is already spreading in our communities and may be 50% more transmissible,” the report said.
“Aggressive mitigation must be used to match a more aggressive virus; without uniform implementation of effective face masking (two or three ply and well-fitting) and strict social distancing, epidemics could quickly worsen as these variants spread and become predominant.”
“It is highly likely there are many variants evolving simultaneously across the globe,” Jason McDonald, a spokesman for the CDC, said in an email to CNBC.