Next week, the Cape Charles Town Council will take up the application for funds. The funding will hopefully provide some relief to our businesses that have been effected by the Covid-19.
It is a critical time, and many are on the verge of closing their doors.
At this serious time, as businesses are struggling, this is when the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, Nature Conservancy, and Northampton Government chose to attack a blue-chip operation (Kelly’s Gingernut Pub), and send a message to everyone else: get woke, or get closed.
Jay Ford, a spokesman for CBF, organized the attack to shut down Kelly’s, and he was quickly and adamantly joined by Margaret Van Cleaf (Nature Conservancy) and Janet Sturgis (Northampton County Planning Commission).
As a note, Ford despite his actions has been rewarded by Gov. Northam by being added to his administration, appointed to the Soil and Water Board (not sure what the qualifications are).
Sturgis and Van Clief are still in the room, so it is assumed that Northampton and the Nature Conservancy approve of trying to shut down rural, coastal businesses.
For its part, Northampton Count has always been anti-growth, anti-business, and hostile towards Cape Charles’ pro-business model (every member of the Cape Charles Town Council except Steve Bennett is some form of business owner). If you recall the battle over the 2015 zoning changes, the Board of Supervisors quiet approval and applauding of Janet Sturgis’ attempt to put a Cape Charles entity out of business makes more sense.
In 2015, the county was in an uproar over changes to the zoning ordinance that would make the county a tad more business-friendly. The opposition’s argument was couched in the usual rhetoric, “protect Bay Act”, “Don’t turn the Shore into Ocean City or VA Beach”. There were many good folks that had their hearts in the right place, but at its core, the anti-2015 zoning was really about the Wellington Neck crowd keeping people out, the “I got mine, now close the door behind me” syndrome. This led to the ouster of Board Member Hubbard, and the installation of a more amiable Spencer Murray, whose first order of business was to overturn the 2015 ordinance and replace it with most of what had been the more business restrictive 2009 ordinance.
The County’s tacit support for running Kelly’s out of business falls in line with what we have witnessed historically. To say there is some distrust and animosity between Cape Charles and Northampton is an obvious understatement. This goes all the way back to the 90s and the County’s attempt to thwart Cape Charles annexing the land that is now Bay Creek. Relative to Cape Charles, the County tends to behave like the Mexican Cartels–they like the money the town brings in, but they also feel the need to slap them down as a way to reestablish the pecking order. Current BoS Chairman Bennett has complained in the past that tourism (Cape Charles) only benefits a few. Cape Charles gets the cake, but the County only gets to lick the bowl.
If this can happen to Kelly’s, it can happen to any other Cape Charles business.
A local citizen sent the following to the CBF:
To: ltselikis@cbf.org <ltselikis@cbf.org>
Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2020 10:23 am
Subject: CBF stance on employee community behavior?
Ms. Tselikis,
Below please find an article that has appeared in one of our local online news/opinion sites, The Cape Charles Mirror. It is one of many that has been written in response to the behavior of one of your employees, Mr. Jay C. Ford. Although your response to another local citizen’s concern about his attack on a Cape Charles man and his business leaves no question as to where your organization stands on this issue, I believe you and the CBF need to be aware of the continued anger that Mr. Ford has caused on the Eastern Shore of Virginia. I personally made phone calls to your Richmond office to express my outrage, but my messages went unanswered. I now see why. However, as a ‘non profit’ entity, I would think that the CBF would be more mindful to the aggressive and controversial behavior of its local representative. I believe many would be donors will think twice in light of this; in fact, I have spoken to many who have contributed financially in the past, but are now withdrawing their support due to this situation, and your organization’s stance. The CBF needs to stick with its environmental role and stay out of the ‘social justice’ business. It appears to be counterproductive to your so-called ‘mission.’Good Day.
Here is the response from CBF:
As you can see, Mr. Baker put a lot of time and thought into his “heartfelt” response. The sarcasm and disdain for us “rural racists” is palpable. In a previous response where he praised Ford’s attack, he stated that “Clean Air, Clean Water are rights we all share.”
What does that even mean? As far as we know, we all share the same sources of air and water, anyone can swim, fish, or boat in the Bay, regardless of skin color. So, what is the real agenda of these people? Do they actually think it’s okay to loot, burn, and beat people for the cause of Social Justice? To destroy lives and livelihoods is okay because the ends justify the means?
This is where we are. We’ve confused actors with heroes, currency with wealth, diplomas with intelligence, propaganda with news, indoctrination with education, demands with rights, tyrants with leaders, conformity with diversity, and slander with debate. It’s all fake.
The ‘Progressive’ politics of these people is based on the idea that if you personally believe something to be so it becomes a binding reality for everyone else. These so-called liberals are vicious and ruthless toward anyone who disagrees with them.
On the surface, maybe it doesn’t seem like much, yet, a its core, the actions of these people is chilling and insidious.
Despite the influx of transplants, the Shore is still a working-class community. As a working-class man, you need to understand that these people (Woke, Social Justice Warriors, Progressive Leftists) hate your guts. They hate your patriotism, your masculinity, and your anti-elitist instincts. They hate your guns. They of course, still want your money, but after they get it, they want you to shut up and die quickly.
The fact that Ford, Van Clief, and Sturgis went after the Kelly’s should not be surprising. They understand that their beliefs cannot be implemented without the aid of coercion.
Never forget.
“Study history. Nothing ever lasts, and what comes after you may be far worse than what you’re trying to reform right now” – Camille Paglia
Ray Otton says
“appointed to the Soil and Water Board (not sure what the qualifications are).”
Obviously, to make mud, which can then be slung hither and non at any un-woke citizen.
MJM says
The Soil and Water Conservation Board was created to “help guide the delivery of soil and water conservation services to the citizens of the commonwealth”.
So Jay C. Ford is going to be telling farmers how to farm ? This I bet is going to go over well. But then again, most of us know Gov. Ralph is out of touch. I just hope a new Soil and Water Board gets picked by a new governor who learns form previous mistakes.
“First Do No Harm” is a message that can apply to any appointee. Mr. Ford did not get the memo.
Do farmers “have to” allow the high and mighty Jay C. Ford access to their property ? Perhaps they can ask him to remain off site.
Lck says
No mud, no lotus.
KR says
Well written article which unfortunately sums up the state of our country now. William Baker of the CBF does not sound like much of a leader. I’ve been reading and watching this situation from afar, but will be in Cape Charles the end of the month to enjoy the beach and plan on a visit to support Kelly’s Gingernut Pub. My 4th time in CC, but have not been to Kellys before, but the actions of Ford and his gang cannot go unchallenged.
MJM says
Can readers of The Cape Charles Mirror please post any known upcoming public activities on Our Eastern Shore of The CBF ? The Shore. Not some other peninsula, or Va. Beach. Deaf ears over there. THIS is our way of life. You know, public meetings to pick up oyster gardening equipment, or bay cleanup activities etc. I’d like to go there and carry a sign. Protest their arrogant, ignorant and violent emotional attitude towards The Shore. They can hide and sit in the background right now all they want. Every single person who has taken Psych 101 (and that’s a few of us, eh ? ) knows that words are just as harmful and damaging in many situations as a thrown 10 lb. stone. Perhaps the high and mighty Jay Ford will be there and he will see how he is creating and nourishing relations with the local community. I just want to remind the CBF that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. The cancel culture is as disgusting as things can be. In my opinion, what they are peddling, is on about the same level as an opioid drug dealer. It has no place here on Main St. Cape Charles.
Mike says
Conservative money works just as well as liberals stand and fight don’t back down to these cancel culture key board warriors I have been fighting Northampton county corruption and social elites . The amount of conflict of interest is insane in the County. The citizens for a better eastern shore the cbf are completely left liberal political groups that should not have any non profit status and Everyone should fight to change that status.
Mary Roach says
This is not a news piece, this is an opinion piece.
Note: It is tagged as Opinion. If you click the opinion button at the top, it should display under that category. We will check to be sure. Thanks.
Louise Johnson says
hmmm I thought the piece was written by Mr Baker but I see now it is not..he only had one sentence…please recind my approval of Mr. Baker…he is obviously out of touch with the people of the Eastern Shore or just does not care.
jb says
Doing my part to help local buiz. Just ordered the fish and chips. 🙂 here on sunday afternoon and a line to get in. BUT they ran out of oyster fritters. Darn. Next time.
Richard says
I was sitting with my wife at Kelly’s on Friday at 9:20 when the Special Agents and what looked to be Health Board workers entered the bar and literally went through every room in the place. There were as many Special Agents and Health officials as there were patrons at the bar. There were literally 4 people at the bar – 2 young women drinking wine and another couple at the far end minding their own business. My wife and I were sitting at a side table enjoying an ice cold beer. Rumor is someone reported an overcrowded situation at Kelly’s and this group of enforcers with obviously nothing better to do showed up.
This Swat approach should be stopped. The amount of money and resources to support this attack on establishments needs to be calculated and the budgets of these agencies should be reduced by a like amount. I captured this ridiculous raid on my phone. I laugh as I watch them going from room to room looking for any evidence to shut down Kelly’s – which they did. I then realize that it is not funny at all, as we have people working at these establishments that rely on this income and this Gestapo approach is keeping them from earning it.
I served in the Military, I donate to our Police and Fire Department, I applaud all the men and women that are first responders but I cannot support these efforts that I just witnessed, as they seem to be politically motivated.
What the hell has happened to Cape Charles?
KGP says
The oyster fritters were devine. Everyone I know is going to Kellys as often as possible to support Gene.
KGP says
I would like to suggest that instead of going negative, Mr. Ford might instead start a “Go Fund Me” campaign to help with the restoration of the old Rosenwald School in Cape Charles. Transforming that building into a cultural center where everyone can be enlightened as to the many wonderful contributions that Black people have made to our town, county and state would be something that we can all agree is a good idea. You can contribute at ccrosenwaldschool.org.
Dean says
If what is being reported about Kelly’s and other business
Then it is time to remove these individuals whom are causing this issue .
The Eastern Shore will move forward even if some stubborn individuals are stuck in the wrong format of thinking .
I have Witnessed this in Colorado, and New York
Maggie says
Why is Kelly’s being attacked? What happened? What occurred to bring action against Kelly’s? What did the business do? When did it happen and will it hapoen again?
Mary says
An owner, Gene Kelly, posted several racist comments publicly on his Facebook page. (Those comments have since been deleted, but many new ones are currently available for viewing.) He has committed himself to racism and refused to seek any sort of reconciliation. Colleen Kelley and the Cape Charles Mirror have made things much worse by rallying these other White Nationalists around the cause. One can now assume that the only patrons one will find in Kelly’s are other racists. I refuse to spend my money there because I will not support the hateful blight this establishment has brought on the community. Cape Charles is better than this and deserves better than this.
Note: Mary Knight, you need to check your privilege, bigotry, and hate. Also, get some fresh content, or just give it a rest. you tend to beat a dead horse long after any one is listening to you – signed, cowardwayne@chump.tv.
Maggie says
Thank you for responding. If racism is in the heart of people, it will show on the outside. I love all people. We all have to do what is right. I have never visited Kelly’s. All businesses on the Eastern Shore need to respect each other. Black citizens support many businesses on the Eastern Shore. We should all have mutual respect.
Dean says
Well
I’m not a racist I am multinational including Native American
I will still go there
Everyone does have their right
Even if YOU do not like it . It is America
Remember
Stuart Bell says
WTF is a multinational?
If you live here, you need to assimilate and become an American with no hyphen.
As to the Native American, I assume you mean injun. Tying a cart to that wagon has not worked out very well for them.
Blue Hoss says
You better check with those so-called Black Community Leaders…
MJM says
The funny thing about opinions like the one represented by you Mary, is that you are unable to defend it. You see my post about the other side of this equation. It is obvious how you accept racism in many forms as long as they are pro black or “people of color”. I have left my post there for over 48 hours to give you time to reply, and you haven’t. You’re simply angry and anti-white because you want to be. You come in here and call a local restaurant racist. You tell us it’s all a “hateful blight”, then you call the rest of us racists and white nationalists, and you’ve never met us ! Which ironically makes you the racist. Most of us are simply saying no one should have their business destroyed over a difference of opinion.
My 98 year old grandmother wants to meet you on Sunday after church. She wants to tell you to your face what she thinks of you calling me a racist white nationalist, and then she wants to pour her ginger ale on your head. Which makes her 1,000 times better than you. She doesn’t want to burn down your house like you do Kelly’s. Your violent attitude is way out of line. Where can you meet her so she can cool you off ?
Dean says
Well Said
Emily Dickenson says
Mary Knight- Your remark is hateful, and you make several FALSE statements- Gene Kelly didn’t make any racists remarks- he expressed his disdain for a politically driven message being given front-and-center attention during a televised SPORTS program. He used ZERO racial slurs, called no names, and unless you find the word “bullshit” offensive, he wasn’t. I have NEVER seen any racially motivated or otherwise hate speech on his personal or his business page. So stop LYING about a small business owner who pays taxes and serves his community. You, madam, are the racist here- you seem to think that all the white folks eating in the Pub are all “white nationalists”!! Talk about making judgements based on skin color. Give it a rest , lady. And do us all a favor and steer clear of Cape Charles.
Dean says
GREAT Response
Keep them coming
She and her Co Horts need
TO GO
KGP says
Amen!!
Paul Plante says
Mary, let me say that this has to be one of the most stupendous posts on any subject that I have yet encountered here at the Cape Charles Mirror, where stupendous posts are the order of the day, usually, anyway.
But as stupendous as any other post might be, you have surpassed them all by a wide margin with your assertion that Gene Kelly, purveyor of the world-famous bean burger at the Gingernut Pub in Cape Charles has committed himself to racism and refused to seek any sort of reconciliation, and that Colleen Kelley and the Cape Charles Mirror have made things much worse by rallying these other White Nationalists around the cause, so that one can now assume that the only patrons one will find in Kelly’s are other racists, and now, as a result, you refuse to spend your money there because you will not support the hateful blight this establishment has brought on the community and Cape Charles is better than this and deserves better than this.
WHEW!
Did I get it all in?
Yes, it looks like I was able to capture at least the essence of what you were trying to say, anyway, which is that Gene Kelly, purveyor of the world-famous bean burger at the Gingernut Pub in Cape Charles, has committed himself to racism and refused to seek any sort of reconciliation, defined as “the action of making one view or belief compatible with another,” which raises the question of exactly what or whom is Gene Kelly supposed to make his views on life compatible with, and why must he be the one to change?
Consider it another way, Mary, and here I believe I am speaking to a real devout Christian who reads the Bible every day, according to Corinthians 5:18-20, reconciliation means a completeness and wholeness with God, with others and with creation and Christians should be committed to reconciling people to God, which I think maybe underlies all of what you have said above about people who read the Cape Charles Mirror being white nationalists and the people who go to Kelly’s for the famous bean-burger are really racists, because only a true racist would eat a bean-burger in public, and being a Christian type of person myself, I am totally cool with that, because according to John Calvin, reconciliation is the peace between humanity and God that results from the expiation of religious sin and the propitiation of God’s wrath.
Not a bad thing for you to be advocating in here, at all, Mary, and your crusade to reconcile us all with God is a grand and glorious thing as I see it.
But here is where a real serious conundrum enters the pisture, Mary – if Gene Kelly is to truly become a real Christian like yourself by doing as you did, which is to come to a realization that reconciliation means a completeness and wholeness with God, with others and with creation, then wouldn’t Gene Kelly have to reconcile himself to the fact that the definition of a human being is “a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance?”
Said another way, Mary, and I am sure that you must be as well aware of this as anyone, if not more so, a human being is a culture-bearing primate classified in the genus Homo, especially the species H. sapiens.
Human beings are anatomically similar and related to the great apes but are distinguished by a more highly developed brain and a resultant capacity for articulate speech and abstract reasoning.
In addition, human beings display a marked erectness of body carriage that frees the hands for use as manipulative members.
Now, what is it that you see clearly missing there?
What is it that you are not seeing in those definitions?
It is the word “race,” is it not?
The word race” is not included in there in the definition of “human being” precisely because “race” is a meaningless and empty term, given the definition of a human being is “a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens,” where Homo sapiens is the species of bipedal primates to which modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) belong, characterized by a large brain, a nearly vertical forehead, a skeletal build lighter and teeth smaller than earlier humans, and dependence upon language and the creation and utilization of complex tools.
And given that the word “race” is a meaningless and empty term, it would logically follow, would it not, that Gene Kelly cannot commit himself to racism, because there is no such thing to commit to?
Or are you saying that people with Black skin are not human?
In which case, what species would they then belong to?
KGP says
O.K. I have been following this whole s**t show from the beginning. Finally I have it figured out. Jay Ford does not give a flying” you know what” about Parksley, Kelly’s Pub or any of that stuff. He is building a resume! Mark my word…sometime in the next few years Mr. Ford will run for political office on the platform that he worked tirelessly to end racism in rural Virginia. If people and businesses have to be destroyed in the mean time…oh well. Have you ever read about the despicable things that Joe Kennedy did to get JFK elected. People died in the interest of getting Hillary Clinton elected. Mr. Ford will run for office and will win because Virginia is now a Democrat state.
I just have one question for Mr. Ford. Gene Kelly expressed his desire for baseball to not to become a political stage…and he is a racist. Someone else wore blackface makeup for the entertainment of his med school friends. Tell me…who is the bigger racist?
Maggie says
I happen to support our Governor. I worked with his mother many years. She would always talk about her son. I never felt or even thought that racism was an issue. See what he did was years ago. The situation with Kelly is recent. People will always say what is in their hearts. If you do not like a certain race, this is your choice. All people are to be respected no matter what. The Eastern Shore is our home. Northampton County is our Country. We donot need the white/black issues. I donot know who Ford is. Lets be wise. We need togetherness. We do not need devision. “Together we stand, divided we fall.”
Paul Plante says
Wise words, Maggie, but there happens to be only one race, which is the human race and people with Black skin are a part of the same human race as is “Blackface” Northam and Gene Kelly, whose “complaint,” as I understood, had absolutely nothing to do with the Black folks, but instead had to do with political BULL**** making its way into major-league baseball.
Dean says
You
Hit it perfectly
KGP says
Oh…OK. It’s Alright to be racist if it hapoened a long time ago and you apologize. but wait….I don’t remember Gov Blackface apoligizing for being a racist. He said that wasn’t him in the photo. Gene Kelly did not apologize for being a racist because he has NEVER BEEN a racist. He is just a pawn in Jay Ford’s campaign to run for political office. Do you really think he wants to live on the money he makes working at a nonprofit org? The big bucks are in politics. Mark my word!
Maggie says
Hi,
Thanks for responding. People change. We all have skeletons in our closets that we are not proud of. Does that mean that we are the same as we were 30 or 40 years ago? Most folks learn from their errors. As I mentioned before, I donot Mr. Kelly or Mr. Ford. I do know Governor Northem. I respect him as our Governor as well as I respect Trump as our president. I donot like every thing they do or say, however; they are our leaders. You see, the best thing that we can do is pray for our leaders and pray for our nation. We the people can only help each other if we come together as one.
Ray Otton says
Ask him yourself – https://www.facebook.com/jaycford
Just be aware, your questions and comments by others who challenge his positions usually get taken down within an hour but if enough of us keep making comments maybe he will reduce his wokeness just a bit……………………naaaaaaaaa. what am I saying………………just do it to annoy him and his wife. She jumps in to defend Pope Ford from time to time and it is glorious. Neither can write a coherent sentence but it sure is WOKE.
Just be respectful when you post your disagreement……….none of this Libtard stuff. it reduces your effectiveness as a standard bearer for decency. Meaning, when they go low, you go high.
Hmmmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, on FB where Libs tout Ms. Obama’s pleas for comity just before they call me a racist, sexist, Islamaphobic Nazi.
Paul Plante says
“Blackface” Northam didn’t do that for entertainment!
My goodness, perish the thought!
No, that was his sensitivity showing there.
He wanted to really find out what it is like to be black in America, instead of a privileged white boy like he was, so he literally became a Black person so he could have a genuine Black experience that helps him have a very productive working relationship with his assistant governor.
KGP says
I do hope that was said in jest.
Paul Plante says
HEH HEH HEH!
Yes, my tongue was in my cheek when I wrote that.
MJM says
So let me ask a question with a SERIOUSLY DIFFRENT opinion. Just when is WOKE actually going to become WOKE instead of being the entirely racist attitude and agenda that it is ? Why is WOKE only anti white and not inclusionary at all ? For just a couple of examples of my question, when will B.E.T, as in Black Entertainment T.V, be influenced to change it’s name by WOKE and the way it presents entertainment ? Almost entirely entertainment, topics etc. for people of color, and proudly racially stated to be that way ? WOKE doesn’t have a problem with that ? When will the NAACP, as in The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People be influenced to change their name to The NAAAP ? As in, The National Association for The Advancement of All People ? Until WOKE individuals and groups also discuss and act upon this other side of the equation, how are any of us supposed to take them seriously ? Isn’t a part of The Mantra that it is an all inclusive movement ? All inclusive ?
Just saying……
Dean says
Well said
Stuart Bell says
Why do you all continue to use the word WOKE?
Do you want to sound like a black person.
‘Him’s Woke’ is Ebonics for He has Awakened.
My God, it sound ignorant for educated people to emulate blacks.
Stuart Bell says
They never stop reminding you that they are black, but don’t want you to see their skin color (be colorblind). They just can’t have it both ways. Women do the same thing with gender.
Amy Pruitt says
Even their request for us to be colorblind, shows they do not know the definition of the word, for even those with the worse cases can tell white from black/brown.
If you are colorblind, you have difficulty distinguishing certain colors, such as blue and yellow or red and green. Color blindness (or, more accurately, color vision deficiency) is an inherited condition that affects males more frequently than females.
KGP says
I would like to suggest that instead of going negative, Mr. Ford might instead start a “Go Fund Me” campaign to help with the restoration of the old Rosenwald School in Cape Charles. Transforming that building into a cultural center where everyone can be enlightened as to the many wonderful contributions that Black people have made to our town, county and state would be something that we can all agree is a good idea. You can contribute at ccrosenwaldschool.org.
Proud Resident says
Wake up and smell the coffee and then smile while you are drinking it! Then think everyone is entitled to their opinion! Stop attacking one another! Lifelong resident of Cape Charles! Born here, been here, staying here! Eat at Kelly’s or wherever you want! Jay Ford you should focus on your paying job! Stop the drama!
Sloppy Joe and Kamaltoe 2020 says
Him’s Woke!
Dean says
Nicely Said
Stuart Bell says
Boycott, Shun, and Ostracize THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY
They have banned Blue Lives Matter, Make America Great Again ect.
but they encourage blm.
Sloppy Joe and KamalToe 2020 says
GET WOKE = GO BROKE!
just ask GoodYear next quarter.
Hunter B says
Nike’s 1st quarterly earnings after getting woke:
“Nike reported a loss of $790 million, or 51 cents per share, during the period ended May 31, compared with net income of $989 million, or earnings of 62 cents a share, a year ago. Total revenue was down 38% to $6.31 billion from $10.18 billion a year ago.”
Stuart Bell says
Maggie says
AUGUST 24, 2020 AT 5:07 PM
I happen to support our Governor. I worked with his mother many years. She would always talk about her son. I never felt or even thought that racism was an issue. See what he did was years ago. The situation with Kelly is recent. People will always say what is in their hearts. If you do not like a certain race, this is your choice. All people are to be respected no matter what. The Eastern Shore is our home. Northampton County is our Country. We donot need the white/black issues. I donot know who Ford is. Lets be wise. We need togetherness. We do not need devision. “Together we stand, divided we fall.”
You support a Governor because you worked with his mammy, and she talked about her son??????
Wow!!!! GTFOF!!!!!
There is only One Race….we are Human.
Maggie says
I have met him for myself. Look if you don’t like someone dont talk negative about them. Respect is the key.
Stuart Bell says
Respect is earned, not just handed out like Good Wishes or Social Security Numbers. He did not even carry his home county in the election. Do not defend baby murdering Liberals to me. I no longer view you people as my fellow Americans. If I don’t like something, I do as I wish.
I am Free, White, and Over 21. Since I have been accused of White Privilege, I intend to take full advantage of it.
With that said, Let us try this again…..Shall We??
You support a Governor because you worked with his mammy, and she talked about her son?????? Then you must have learned he is a racist.
Wow!!!! GTFOF!!!!!
There is only One Race….we are Human.
Sorin Varzaru says
“There is only One Race….we are Human”
That is 100% correct. There the issue with the assholes that think they are superior because the color of their skin is white. The same, or different assholes treating people with a different skin color, or different ancestry or different sexual orientation as subhuman.
By the way, how many millions of potential babies have you killed when jacking off?
Stuart Bell says
Bless your Heart…
Ray Otton says
“how many millions of potential babies have you killed when jacking off?”
How juvenile can you get?
That’s not how it works. In fact, every 28 days or so women’s bodies do the same thing with unfertilized eggs.
Good thing there weren’t any biology questions on the citizenship test.
Well, good for you, the rest of us are sitting here shaking our heads.
Sloppy Joe and KamalToe 2020 says
Her’s Woke!