Special commentary by Paul Plante
Yes, people, hype and hysteria, and to be frank, more political bull**** than I ever recall being subjected to in this country after a presidential election was over in the last seventy years, as in:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
That, of course, is Democrat and two-time loser Hillary Rodham Clinton being quoted in a puff piece entitled “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister in the Daily Intelligencer on 26 May 2017.
That puff piece starts as follows:
It’s the day after Donald Trump has fired FBI director James Comey, the man who many — including Clinton — believe is responsible for the fact that she is spending this Wednesday in May working at a dining-room table in Chappaqua and not in the Oval Office.
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
“And certainly the Trump campaign relished everything that was done to me in July and then particularly in October.”
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“Everything that was done to me?”
Like what, exactly, Hillary?
What was “done” to you that hasn’t been done to other presidential candidates in this nation going right on back to poor old toothless dog John Adams in this nation’s first contested presidential election?
And that answer is nothing.
But that is just a triviality – Hillary will be whining about losing this election for the rest of her life, blame-casting everywhere but where blame should be cast, which is with herself.
So my purpose in writing doesn’t have to do with Hillary Clinton’s ceaseless whining and blame-casting; to the contrary, it has to do with all this hype and hysteria we are being fed on a daily basis by the media about how our supposed “democracy” itself is threatened, which point comes across once more in that Daily Intelligencer puff piece as follows:
But “having said that, I (Clinton) think what’s going on now is an effort to derail and bury the Russia inquiry, and I think that’s terrible for our country.”
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Terrible for our country?
Wow.
Sounds pretty grim to me, as if the end of the world is quite near, or maybe even gone past, but we just haven’t realized it yet, being slow to process information more than a few words long as we are in this country today.
Getting back to the puff piece:
History, says Clinton, “will judge whoever’s in Congress now as to how they respond to what was an attack on our country.”
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A attack on our country?
HUH?
When and where did that happen?
Does anyone know?
Did anyone hear anything about it?
I didn’t think so, because there was no attack on “our country.”
But here is how our special and precious Hillary qualifies that in the puff piece:
“It wasn’t the kind of horrible, physical attack we saw on 9/11 or Pearl Harbor, but it was an attack by an aggressive adversary who had been probing for many years to figure out how to undermine our democracy, influence our politics, even our elections.”
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Hillary, in a word, that is bull****.
If the Russians really wanted to see “our democracy” undermined, all they would have to do is to stand back and watch, because democracies throughout history are and have always been inherently unstable, which is why wise men back at the beginning of this nation’s history totally rejected democracy as a form of government in this nation.
In the Daily Intelligencer puff piece on 26 May 2017, we were informed that Hillary’s hope, in the wake of Comey’s dismissal, is that “this abrupt and distressing action will raise enough questions in the minds of Republicans for them to conclude that it is worthy of careful attention, because left unchecked … this will not just bite Democrats, or me; this will undermine our electoral system.”
What is undermining our electoral system in this country is not the Russians, it is the abject ignorance of people in this country who cannot read more than two or three words in a row without getting intellectually overwhelmed, but who vote, nonetheless, because in this country, you can be totally illiterate and totally ignorant of what is going on around you in the world, and yet, your vote is worth just as much as the vote of the wisest among us, assuming there still are any of that caliber left around in this country today.
As to democracy and Marxism, school boy/girl history as used to be taught in this country back when people had to know how to read to even get into high school, let alone graduate, and modern-day Wikipedia tell us that the role of democracy in Marxist thinking may refer to the role of democratic processes in the transition from capitalism to communism or capitalism to Marxist socialism.
Long ago, before Hillary Clinton was even born, and this as well is school boy/girl history in this country, or used to be, Leninists in Russia believed democracy under capitalism was an unrealistic utopia because in their belief system, they believed that in a capitalist state, all “independent” media and most political parties are controlled by capitalists and one either needs large financial resources or to be supported by the bourgeoisie to win an election.
That reference to large financial resources happens to be Hillary Clinton in spades.
In “The State and Revolution” by Lenin in Chapter 5, he states:
Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich – that is the democracy of capitalist society.
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When she says, “our democracy,” that democracy for the rich is exactly what Hillary Clinton is talking about.
And for the record, those words were penned by Lenin back circa 1917, which is a hundred (100) years ago now, so the Marxists (i.e., the Russians) have been studying democracy for a long time now, notwithstanding that Hillary Clinton and the majority of the American people and media seem to be totally unaware of that.
The democracy that Marxists aim to achieve is a workers’ democracy also known as the dictatorship of the proletariat which would consist of political power being held by the working class (the majority demographic of society) and state power wielded in their interests, and Marxists also hold that a workers’ democracy (the dictatorship of the proletariat) is only a temporary and transitional form necessary prior to the establishment of a communist society.
So, how is this supposed “democracy” Hillary Clinton says we have in this country different than the Marxist form of democracy?
Don’t look for an answer to that question in the main stream media, or from Hillary Clinton, because none of them are going to answer that question.
Where is supposed democracy taking us to in this nation?
Why will it take us in a different direction than Marxist democracy?
Again, no answers forthcoming, just a flood of even more bull****.
It is interesting that just about every day, we keep hearing that the Russians meddled in our elections, or that they interfered in our elections, both of which charges themselves are total bull****.
If they meddled in our elections, how did they do it?
If they interfered in our elections, how did they do it?
If they meddled or interfered in our elections, then why and how did Hillary Clinton amass more popular votes than Trump did?
If the Russians wanted Trump to win, and perhaps they did, and they had this power over the American people, which is entirely possible and feasible if the American people are now ignorant enough to become Russian or Marxist pawns, and power over the electoral process to such a degree that they could successfully meddle in it, then why didn’t they ensure Trump would win the majority of the popular vote?
And that answer is because they did not have such a degree of control, or any control at all, for that matter.
So why then, are we being fed this crap about the Russians meddling and interfering in our elections?
Is there anyone in here intelligent enough to riddle us that, so we can finally understand what all this hoopla in the media concerning all this alleged Russian meddling and interfering in our elections is all about?
The candid world would very much like to know.
Joe says
Very well said.
Paul Plante says
Thank you, Joe!
Robbin Smith says
Good morning Wayne,
I hope all is well in the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky. I enjoy your observations and read them often however this sounds like textbook Trump apologist talking points. Your thesis that Russia didn’t “meddle” in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed. Notwithstanding the aforementioned fact that the intelligence community has stated that there is ample evidence to that fact, there is also ample reason for that “meddling” you so patently dismiss. The NATO issue alone is more than enough reason for Russian involvement. Not to mention Syria and Ukraine and other hot-bed Russian issues that a President Clinton would be much tougher on then President Trump has shown he is willing to be. Also not to mention a number of other economic, environmental and diplomatic issues, and not to bury the lead, but the 800 pound gorilla in the room-FOSSIL FUEL (oil, gas, etc.). The coziness of Russia, and Trump surrogates are just a little too much to ignore and dismiss.
However I must agree with you about the total ignorance of our populous. Most know the latest news about random celebrities than our government and it’s mechanization. Many are influenced by “thought-leaders” and pundits on both the left and the right . Furthermore I also agree with you that there is “hysteria on the left and idiocy on the right”, however your article does a disservice to your thesis as your argument doesn’t follow the thesis your title proposes. Respectfully as a result your lack of a balanced argument reinforces the “idiocy on the right”.
Proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur, Muckraker and someone, who I hope is intelligent enough to riddle you an response.
Regards,
Robbin Smith
Note: Thanks Robbin, nice to hear from you old friend. This particular piece is written by Paul Plante. We attempt to present as many different view points as we can, left, middle and right or from where ever we can. Would love to publish something from you!
Paul Plante says
Good day to you, Robbin Smith, and let me say on behalf of a grateful nation how glad and pleased we all are, and this would have to include the candid world, as well, since, as you kn0w, what you call the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky (that drew quite a lot of hearty guffaws from us old folks who diligently follow the CCM as our window on the world, which guffaws are always appreciated by us old folks, as being able to laugh is a key to longevity) is a global publication now, so that Putin himself might be chuckling at your joke right now, as he studies the CCM to try and get a handle on what REAL AMERICANS are thinking, as opposed to all these pundits in the press and all these supposed “intelligence” sources, most of whom are never even named, nor is their actual possession of intellect ever established, to see you coming in here as you have done to try and riddle us on exactly how it was that OUR elections were either meddled with or interfered with.
And here is where it is felt among the community of old combat veterans of which I am a part that your skill as a riddler falls far short of your skill as a humorist, raconteur, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker who sadly was almost, but not quite intelligent enough to riddle me a response to my guest opinion piece above here, which has them calling out “Don’t quit your day job,” and “Get the hook!”.
As to my opinion piece reading, in your opinion as a Muckraker, like textbook Trump apologist talking points, I would say not hardly and not by a long shot since I am not and never have a Trump supporter or toady or lickspittle or disciple or acolyte, so that I am not any kind of apologist for him or anything he says or does, but hey, nice try to try and divert the subject.
Moving along, we next come to your seriously flawed statement that “Your (my) thesis that Russia didn’t ‘meddle’ in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.”
And here we are with this “numerous intelligence sources” crap, which, quite frankly, especially to a Viet Nam combat veteran well aware of government “intelligence”, which its IQ hovering in the low 50’s, at best, is a total bull**** statement that means nothing whatsoever at all.
For all we know, your so-called and in-named “intelligence sources” are in actuality inmates of a psychiatric institute where for therapy, they give them tablets and let them TWEET their intelligence to the other TWEETERS on TWITTER, who then start re-TWEETING those TWEETS as conformed intelligence, when it is the ravings of the insane, instead.
For an excellent example of how “gummint” intelligence is skewed to fit political ends, in this case, the needs of the Democrat party, let us for a moment turn to pp.100-102 of “A BETTER WAR, The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America’s Last Years in Vietnam” by Lewis Sorley, a third-generation graduate of West Point holding a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University with two decades of service in the U.S. Army including command of tank and armored cavalry units, teaching at West Point and the Army War College, and Pentagon staff duty who was later a senior civilian official of the Central Intelligence Agency, where we find this following vignette:
While the Ho Chi Minh Trail was under fierce and continuous air attack, access to the South Vietnamese coast from the sea had since mid-1966 been effectively sealed off through intensive patrolling by South Vietnamese and U.S. ships.
But there was a flood of supplies coming into the Cambodian port of Sihanoukville and then through Cambodia into III and IV Corps of South Vietnam and even up to the southern portions of II Corps.
By January 1969 it was clear to MACV analysts that Sihanoukville was “the primary point of entry for supplies, especially arms and ammunition, destined for enemy forces in southern South Vietnam.”
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The distribution system was well organized and efficient.
After leaving Sihanoukville, the munitions were transported to an arms depot at Kampong Speu, about twenty-five miles southwest of Phnom Penh, or to warehouses in the capital city.
From there they were distributed to enemy base areas in the border region, and eventually to troop units in South Vietnam.
At CIA this picture of the enemy supply system had for a long time been vigorously disputed.
There the “intelligence analysts at the Washington level” really came down to one man, a veteran CIA officer named James Graham.
The lead analyst on the problem, he stubbornly refused, year after year, to be convinced that any significant amount of military wherewithal was reaching the enemy through the port of Sihanoukville.
Within MCV, the “Graham Report” staking out that position became infamous.
MACV was incensed by its obtuseness, as they saw it, or worse.
Later (General) Davidson, who had struggled with this problem when he was MACV J-2, recalled that Graham once said to him, “Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find.”
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“Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find,” Robbin Smith, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker, you know what I am saying here, don’t you?
You know how it is; if you got a career in “intelligence,” even if and especially if you are completely lacking in any of your own, and you want to make it through to retirement, well sometimes, you have to peddle complete bull****, even if other people are going to die as a result, as was the case in Viet Nam in 1969, the year I happened to be there, watching the blood flow and the lives get snuffed out, while your beloved “intelligence” sources peddled their never-ending lies about the “light at the end of the tunnel,” which was more bull**** on top of that already spewed.
And let us look at the word “MEDDLE,” which is far from being a “fifty dollar word,” thus, its meaning is readily accessible even to those of us who are not “intelligence sources.”
“MEDDLE” is a verb which means “interfere in or busy oneself unduly with something that is not one’s concern.”
What is it then, Robbin Smith, in any of this pitiful and infantile and juvenile saga, that is not something of the world’s concern, and Russia’s, as well?
Are you not aware, Robbin Smith, that foreign powers have been concerned with what is going on in this country since before the Declaration of Independence in 1776?
Have you forgotten your schoolboy history lessons where we learned of the concerns of the leading people in this country back then that foreign powers were indeed trying to interfere in our elections?
Foreign powers have been meddling in our affairs as long as we have had affairs to meddle in.
BUT!
Where is or was the so-called “interference?”
As you try but fail miserably to confuse us with your riddling, you have presented us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever of Russian “interference” in our elections, nor can you, since Obama himself said that our election system was secure and was never hacked or otherwise interfered with.
So there was no interference, people.
And Robbin Smith, please, have a glorious day!
Chas Cornweller says
Well, Paul good to have you back! I see the naysayers, Whigs and wags could not keep you from your appointed tasks. For that I applaud you sir. What I cannot applaud, however, is this article.
Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen. I think it is high time for all of us to move on. But, aside from that, you bring up some very interesting questions regarding the status of Democracy, election results, Russian interference and the very nature of the intelligence of the general populace. Whew! Quite a bit of bacon to chew on.
Two things I want to address. Russian interference and the intelligence of the general populace. First, let’s pretend the Russians didn’t hack into the DNC. Let’s pretend Hillary wins in sixteen. And let’s just play the political game of she’s in the White House and the fact leaks out that the DNC meddled and fixed the election to oust Bernie Sanders and insure that Hillary Clinton is installed as premiere candidate supreme. But, wait! That did happen, in July 22, 2016. So, even the DNC eats its own. Big surprise, huh? But, we would not have known about this unless the hack had not taken place. Who gets credit for that hack? Take your time…I’ll wait. That’s right! Slowly released as “leaks” within the party itself was the initial public press report. But, over a period (two to three weeks) it was shown that the hackers themselves led back to Russian intelligence groups. It was shown by US intelligence agencies (stated with “high confidence”) that Russia was behind the thief of the e-mails and documents from the DNC. So, that was the first round to undermine public confidence in the election system. The second-time Russia interfered (November 6, 2016-two days before the election) was the release of more information via WikiLeaks centered of the e-mails that corresponded with John Podesta specifically, which upon close scrutiny by its author, found to have been doctored to manipulate even more damage to the Democratic National Committee. Did all this cost Hillary votes? Did it cost her the election? Does that even matter, at this juncture?
My point is this, if Russia hacked information from American servers and foisted back on the American public via (take your pick) fake news, Fox News, CNN, WikiLeaks, Facebook, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, nearly every basement dwelling blogger from here to the “Left” Coast and Donald Trump and all of his mouth pieces, what does that tell you? Does that not smell like espionage to you? Isn’t espionage an act of war? It certainly is a treasonable offence in this country. Has it not left a pit in our collective stomachs that Russian acted with impunity to sabotage the Democratic National Party in mid and end of race? Not, of course, that they needed much help…but my point is this. You could blame some poor fool sitting in his mother’s basement in a hoodie, wearing a Guy Fawkes mask tearing about the main servers at the DNC, but don’t you think they would have been caught by now. Remember? Treasonous acts and the like. Red meat for the ill-informed. But, that did not happen. It all points to Putinland. I am sorry, but I trust our nation’s intelligence agency far more than I do any of the mouth pieces for either party right now.
Now, my second point. Intelligence within the general populace. To quote a good friend of mine and a great songwriter with Acoustic Syndicate, Steve McMurry; “Living here ain’t all it’s cracked up to be…some of us can’t handle all the pain. Some of us are smarter than others, I can’t get myself out of the rain.” The plain truth is, you have smart people and you have stupid people. You have people well versed in the arts, politics, history, literature, the classics. And the flip side is you have yokels, knuckleheads, stubborn and angry, waiting on a miracle. People who are still believing in the American dream. Hanging on for dear life, hoping that brass ring comes back around again. You have people willing to buy into whatever they are selling. They are the fake news watchers, believers in the evils of this world with no solution. Just venom and fire to back up their words. Words based upon years of dog whistles, commentary from the radio, lies from on high and lies from down low. Years of fake news. Example: True or false. Barrack Obama is a Muslim and was not born within the boundaries of the United States? American intelligence…it is only as good as the education you give yourself every single day of your waking life. If you don’t read outside your comfort zone. If you don’t venture outside your cultural bubble. If you don’t learn a second or even third language or follow another country’s news feeds. If you cannot abide listening to another’s view point, opposite your own without blowing a cranium gasket, then you are one of the “the others” Steve McMurry wrote about. Wisdom is not IQ scores. Wisdom is quiet reflection on the world around you and hearing what others have to say. Wisdom is NOT taught in school. Wisdom is nurtured, fostered and earned over years. Wisdom is growing a little every day and is applied back to make this a better world. In short, I question the wisdom of the general path of this great nation of ours. That reflects on the general intelligence of the general populace.
The more Bull that is feed to us via news feeds and the like, the more confused, complacent, and mistrusting of the very sources that should have the people’s best interest at heart as the center of their livelihoods becomes. But, being of sound intelligence, I distrust generally everything I read, hear, view at first glance. I check sources and I read, hear, view multiple sources to glean what I believe satisfies my worldview. Maybe, just maybe…by my using that method of following current history (daily news-people) I watched a first world oligarchy reach into our election process and with greasy, dirty fingers manipulate the machinery. Fake News? I think not. And as a citizen of this great country of ours, I am incensed that nothing is being done about this.
Paul Plante says
Chas Cornweller, so good to see you as well, especially with your comments above where you attempt to conflate the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee with our national government.
Neither the Democrat party nor the Democrat National Committee have anything whatsoever to do with our national government in this nation, so that allegation that they were hacked cannot in any possible way be conflated with an “attack” on our government, or interference of any kind in our elections.
Our elections have nothing whatsoever to do with Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, and the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with our national elections, although if anyone was to be suspected or accused of meddling, and interfering in our elections, it would be either the Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, since the Democrat party has a long and established history of meddling and interfering in our elections.
As to the Democrat party meddling and interfering in our elections, who can forget that in the 1870s, Democrats gradually regained power in the Southern legislatures by using insurgent paramilitary groups, such as the White League and Red Shirts, to disrupt Republican organizing, run Republican officeholders out of town, and intimidate blacks to suppress their voting.
That is what meddling and interfering look like in real life, Chas Cornweller.
The White League was an American white supremacist paramilitary terrorist organization started in 1874 to turn Republicans out of office and intimidate freedmen from voting and political organizing.
That is meddling and interfering, well expressed right there.
Did the Russians do that in America in 2016?
Affiliated with the Democratic Party, the White League was one of the paramilitary groups described as “the military arm of the Democratic Party,” and through violence and intimidation, its members suppressed Republican voting and contributed to the Democrats’ taking control of the Louisiana Legislature in 1876.
The Red Shirts or Redshirts of the Southern United States were white supremacist terrorist groups that were active in the late 19th century after the end of the Reconstruction era of the United States, and they first appeared in Mississippi in 1875, when Democratic Party private terror units adopted red shirts to make themselves more visible and threatening to Southern Republicans, both white and freedmen.
The Red Shirts were one of several paramilitary organizations arising in the continuing efforts of white Democrats to regain political power in the South in the 1870s.
These groups acted as “the military arm of the Democratic Party” and they had one goal: the restoration of the Democrats to power by getting rid of Republicans, which usually meant repressing civil rights and voting by the freedmen, and during the 1876, 1898 and 1900 campaigns in North Carolina, the Red Shirts played prominent roles in intimidating non-Democratic voters.
What did the Russians do in 2016 that matches any of that meddling and interfering with our elections that can be attributed to the Democrat party, itself?
And that answer is NOTHING?
They hacked the DNC and made them look like the incompetent fools they are?
OH, BOO HOO HOO!
The DNC is a private organization, not an arm of our government, and if they are so incompetent as to allow themselves to be hacked and embarrassed by the Russians, then that is a clear sign that we are better off without that crowd having anything to do with our government, and especially, our national security.
And “Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen?”
Where, pray tell, Chas Cornweller, was our precious and special Hillary, who is a national treasure who is deeply and sincerely loved by every loyal and patriotic American, including, of course, myself, bashed in here, where “BASH” is a verb meaning “strike hard and violently,” with synonyms such as strike, hit, beat, thump, slap, smack, bang, knock, batter, pound, pummel, wallop, clout, belt, whack, thwack, clobber, bop, sock or smite.
Where have I clouted, bopped, socked or thumped dear precious and special Hillary, Chas Cornweller?
Edify me, as I am failing to see it, myself.
Surely you do not suggest that if anyone in this country dares to question a single word uttered by Hillary in a public forum in 2017, they are “bashing” Hillary?
Do you?
Chas Cornweller says
Well, Paul Plante, I must say…you’ve got me there. Yes, the Democratic National Committee as well as the Republican National Committee are as separate from our government as General Motors is. They are private institutions set up to maintain and garner support for their prospective candidates. How could have I been so blind. So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for you? Never mind that the “Smoke” from an unknown, as yet unfounded “Smoking Gun” emulates from the White House. I “survived” the Nixon meltdown years. I remember the “pushback” that came from the White House then. The slow drip, drip, drip of denials, lies, allegations and “Smoke, but no fire” scenarios. And, truthfully, I believe the man doth protest too much. He is attacking leakers instead of going after and shining a light on the “allegations” of a hack. If he truly wanted this to go away, he would have cooperated from the very beginning and fully backed the investigation committee in their investigations. But, we have gotten nothing but the opposite. Complaints, demands, tweets off the cuff, several firings and a slow, drip, drip, drip of the leaky faucet somewhere in the kitchen. Frankly, I am sick and tired of the smoke and mirrors. The clown show and the daily circuses. While Rome burns and the rest of the world inhales her smoke, this nincompoop fiddles away, frittering the last of any moral collateral we may have left. And quite honestly, I was not all that happy with the legacy of previous administration. And though a black man (technically, mulatto; as the gentleman southerner used to say) was in the seat of the presidency, I thought he held that position with aplomb, grace and dignity. Never mind the storm of hatred, visceral racism and death-threats that surrounded his presidency for eight years. The threats, and abuse the Obama family had to endure just go to show how vile this country has become deep down in its own moral fiber. The grace that Jackie Kennedy endured for four days, oh so long ago, Michelle Obama endured for eight years, and mostly without large, dark shades. So, I applaud the Obamas, not for being black, but for being real people. And enduring.
But, know also, I am not a big fan of Hillary either, my friend. And yes, the DNC made it easy for the Russians (“Allegedly” … I said, allegedly) to take her down. Between the two committees (RNC, DNC), there is nothing I wouldn’t put past them to attempt to get their candidate elected. It seems the higher the seat (translate – “The Greater the Power”) the crazier the stunts. And my point from my previous comment was directly related to this and the ignorance of the average American. Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing. Truth is, no one cares…except those doing the bashing and those baited by that basher. It’s just that it gets old with me. We both know what these politicians are. There is no need to waste ink space on the definitions. But, I really, really, wonder what the RNC and the Republican party would have done, if this Russian stunt had been rolled out on Obama’s watch? Hmm?
Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter? What if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg? What if Russia hacked …allegedly…into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day? And Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street? A lot of what if’s Mr. Plante… but I think you get my point. Where is the questioning? Where is, the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself? The ether-net is the new battle ground, sir. Just as the skies over Germany in 1942 were the new battle ground. Battle grounds change, come and go and return. Recognizing the high ground early and taking it, makes for an easier victory. Realizing too late (vis a vis Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg) can be a costly mistake. But then again, we have a man in the White House today that (to quote) “knows more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.” Let’s just hope he knows a little something about Russia too.
Paul Plante says
So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for me?
HUH?
What kind of covfefe statement about me would that make were it to be so, Chas Cornweller?
You are an intelligent man, Chas Cornweller, so how, except for the sake of promoting further discussion through the vehicle of intelligent argumentation, could you come up with such an idea, and that on many levels?
No, Chas Cornweller, I am very much against lawlessness and anarchy and trespassing and breaking and entering and criminal activities, all of which to me describe and define “hacking.”
But so what, Chas Cornweller?
Is my being against hacking or denouncing it going to stop it from happening, especially to fools such as the Democrat Nati0nal Committee or any other fools, for that matter, on that level, who don’t know enough or are too incompetent to keep it from happening to them?
In that sense, Chas Cornweller, I would have to be considered a Darwinist, where I can perceive the world as composed of predators and their prey, and in this case, metaphorically speaking, the Democrats were easy prey to whatever it was out there, be it Putin or the KGB, or the ABC, or the XYZ, or some real smart kid in Hackensack, New Jersey who tricked all these supposed “intelligence” sources into believing he was really Russian intelligence, that was preying on them, for whatever reason that might in fact have been, which could have been no reason at all other than to see if it could be done.
So that should put that issue to bed, although I would be happy to develop my position on hacking further for you, if you need me to.
And then we come to this statement of yours, Chas Cornweller, which begs a response: “Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter?”
My response to that would have to be, since I am a rational person trained in the detachment of science so as to enable me to perform the duties of an associate level public health engineer to protect human health and well-being, what people?
What people were manipulated by the hacking you allege?
And how?
Are you hypothesizing here that there were people weak-witted enough to be manipulated by the Russians, or are you saying that you actually know people that weak-witted?
And my goodness, Chas Cornweller, what a statement about the American people of today that is, if they are so ignorant they could be manipulated by any Russian.
And what if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg?
Or what if Russia hacked into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day?
And what if Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street?
Oh, well, would be my response, you know what I am saying here, Chas Cornweller?
If those things happened, and they may well already have, many times over, if the Russians are really as smart and formidable as our intelligence sources make them out to be, far smarter than our best people in this country from the sounds of things, then they happened, just as 9-11 happened, and just as the Viet Nam war happened, and the American Revolution happened.
I’m older than you, Chas Cornweller, and one of the reasons that I am older than you is because I lose no sleep whatsoever over things over which I have no control whatsoever, like the Pentagon or General Motors.
So if they are hacked, they are hacked, and in the case of the Pentagon, if it happened to them, I for one would not be surprised, for as a combat veteran, I harbor no illusions whatsoever that any real intelligence resides in that building, which has given us the never-ending losing war we are fighting in Afghanistnam right now.
As to your statement that “Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing,” I would respond by saying that I don’t know, since I don’t bash Hillary.
But at the same time, I also do not treat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is younger than I am, as some kind of cultural icon in this country who is above reproach and therefore, cannot be questioned in any way.
Were Hillary still in the woods with her gallon jug of T-bird or Ripple, she would be a complete non-issue with me, Chas Cornweller, but she is not in the woods any longer with her jug of wine, and this is no longer 2016, and Hillary is back among us as a public person making pronouncements that demand a response in public.
In THE HILL article “Clinton launches new political action group” by Ben Kamisar, on 15 May 2017, we are informed thusly:
Hillary Clinton on Monday unveiled her new political action organization, Onward Together, which will fundraise for five prominent progressive groups.
“I believe more fiercely than ever that citizen engagement at every level is central to a strong and vibrant democracy,” she wrote.
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She believes it and guess what, Chas Cornweller, I do, too, so that is exactly what I am doing in here, courtesy of Wayne Creed and the CCM – engaging Hillary Clinton at every level because that is central to a strong and vibrant democracy.
With respect to that engagement, in an ASSOCIATED PRESS article entitled “Clinton: Trump budget an ‘attack of unimaginable cruelty'” by STEVE LeBLANC, Associated Press, on 26 MAY 2017, we are told as follows:
Clinton also painted a portrait of a political environment where some are hostile to the fundamentals of an enlightened society and are engaged in “full-fledged assault on truth and reason.”
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Among those in this country engaged in a “full-fledged assault on truth and reason” would be Hillary Clinton herself, and cultural icon though she may be in this country, she gets no free ride here, Chas Cornweller.
In that same article, Hillary further said, “When people in authority invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society.”
That statement again would apply right back to Hillary herself, being taken by so many tens of millions of people in this country as an authority figure as she is, in addition to being a cultural icon.
And that takes us to the Daily Intelligencer article “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister on 26 May 2017, where we have our special and precious Hillary being quoted as follows:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
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What “unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians,” Chas Cornweller?
Can you detail even one for us, because maybe I was sleeping that day, but I am unaware of a single one by either.
In that same article, with respect to Comey, Hillary has this to say:
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
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Comey should have been disciplined?
For what, exactly?
For doing his job as FBI Director?
Who the hell does this Hillary Clinton think she is anyway?
She is a private citizen just as we are.
She is not some type of species of royalty who is above the law in this country.
So what should Comey have been disciplined for?
For suspecting Hillary of wrongdoing when the evidence pointed that way?
Help us out here if you can, Chas Cornweller, help us lesser intellectual lights here in the United States of America, and in the candid world, as well, understand Hillary’s logic here.
Is she telling us that she is an untouchable?
And finally, in that same article, we have this:
Recently, she has even declared herself a member of “the resistance.”
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The “resistance?”
What the covfefe is this “resistance,” Chas Cornweller?
Is Hillary becoming a partisan who intends to wage guerilla warfare in this country now?
As a loyal American citizen who is sick and tired of all this internecine political warfare going on in this country now, with Hillary’s black-clad “anti-fa” supporters and the Trump supporters having armed stand-offs with each other, I for one would like to know a lot more about this “resistance” movement Hillary has organized.
So what can you tell us about it, Chas Cornweller, as the candid world would really like to know?
Paul Plante says
“Listen, there’s a lot of smoke.”
“We have no smoking gun at this point,” Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia said on CNN.
“But there is a lot of smoke.”
That was just today in The Wall Street Journal article “Top Democrat says there’s smoke, but ‘no smoking gun’ yet in Russia probe” By Siobhan Hughes published June 5, 2017 4:04 a.m. ET wherein was stated “The top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee said there was no proof so far of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign, as Congress geared up for a week of high drama highlighted by the testimony of former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey.”
High drama, indeed; this crap is better than any soap opera on TV these days, which is probably why so much media attention is being given to it by the main stream media, who are convinced, before there is any real evidence, that because of the Russians and Jim Comey and now, the data people at the DNC, that despite having the most popular votes, Hillary Clinton was robbed of the United States presidency, as if it were hers as a matter of right, because she is Hillary Clinton, the political darling of every American in this country, except, of course, the Bernie Sanders supporters and the Trump supporters.
As to this latest charge by Hillary Clinton, latest excuse, actually, added to an ever-increasing list of excuses for why she isn’t president, made earlier this week at a media and technology conference in California, where Hillary said the Democratic Party didn’t give her the data-related resources she needed, that sparked what was called “a brutal response from Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, on Twitter, as was reported in the CBS NEWS story “DNC data guru denies Hillary Clinton’s claim she ‘inherited nothing'” by Kathryn Watson on 2 JUNE 2017, as follows:
Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, said Hillary Clinton’s claim that she “inherited nothing” from the DNC is totally off base.
“DNC data folks: today’s accusations are f***ing bull****, and I hope you understand the good you did despite that nonsense,” Therriault tweeted Wednesday in a series of tweets that have since been deleted but were captured by other news outlets.
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His statement that Hillary’s latest accusations are “f***ing bull****” really serves to underscore the theme of this thread, as gobs and mounds of that substance fly through the air in this country in the guise of actual, fact-based news.
According to that CBS NEWS article, Clinton’s comments on Wednesday resurfaced responses from her critics that Clinton still isn’t owning her loss to now-President Donald Trump.
Clinton said she wasn’t a “perfect” candidate, but that isn’t why she lost, blaming everything from the Democrats’ data operations to the media covering her email scandal like “Pearl Harbor.”
BOO HOO HOO, Hillary!
Hype to the right of us, hysteria to the left, and idiocy all around, in spades!
Paul Plante says
And Chas Cornweller, let us all take a moment in here to thank you profusely for bringing the name Barack Hussein Obama, our first Marxist United States president, a name I no longer think about since he has largely departed the public stage with the seven million dollars he is reported to have left the White House with, back into this discussion on our “democracy” being “threatened”, and our election supposedly have been “meddled: with and “interfered” with, as if that were not a common practice since Alexander Hamilton’s day, which would then take us back in time to just after the 2016 election, where Obama is quoted in an article entitled “Obama: ‘Russia Did Not Hack Our Elections’” by yournewswire, wherein we were informed as follows:
President Obama has been forced to admit that Russia did not hack the U.S. elections as is being widely reported in the mainstream media.
During an interview with the Daily Show’s Trevor Noah, Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process.
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WHOA, Chas Cornweller, what is up with that, pray tell?
Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process?
BIFF, BAM, BOOM, ZOUNDS and HOLY COW all wrapped up in one, Chas Cornweller!
If after the 2016 elections, none other than Barack Hussein Obama himself, whether or not he was born in this country, and whether or not he was a Muslim, or an atheist, or a Manichaean, or whatever, was denouncing the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process, then why are we still hearing in June of 2017 the now quite lame conspiracy theory that the Russians tampered with the American voting process?
Was Obama blowing smoke up our nether regions when he said that?
Or is it all these un-named “intelligence” sources today who are blowing the smoke?
Even Obama’s hireling Jimmy Clapper denied the interference in our election in an Associated Press entitled “US official says Russia undoubtedly meddled in US election” by RICHARD LARDNER and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press on 5 January 2017, as follows:
Clapper on Thursday declined to discuss whether Russia’s interference was aimed at backing Trump win.
But he said Russia’s hacking “did not change any vote tallies.”
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If Russia’s hacking did not change any vote tallies in the 2016 presidential election, where Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote, then where on earth is the interference in our 2016 presidential election?
Getting back to Obama in 2016:
“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he admitted.
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No evidence of vote tampering?
Hmmmmm.
Obama and Jimmy Clapper, who should know if anybody should know, seem to be on the same page there, but on a very different page than Hillary Clinton and all these so-called “intelligence” sources today who are still claiming the Russians interfered in the election to steal it away from our darling precious and special Hillary.
Rhetorically speaking here, if there was no evidence of vote tampering, then where is the evidence of interfering in our election?
If the Russians did actually interfere in our election, but did not engage in vote tampering, then they must have bought off the electoral college is the only other conclusion available, but since we haven’t heard about the electoral college having been bought off, we begin to wonder here just what the heck is going on with all these claims about our election having been meddled with and interfered with.
Getting back to the Obama article:
BB.com reports:
Obama downplayed the hack of a private email account of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, defending his administration for revealing in October that the Russian government was connected.
“None of this should be a big surprise,” Obama said, “Russia trying to influence our elections dates back to the Soviet Union.”
Obama dismissed the hack and the leaked emails as “not very interesting” and lacking “explosive” revelations.
He puzzled as to why it was an “obsession” by the news media despite the knowledge that the Russians were responsible.
“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said.
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Fairly routine stuff, Chas Cornweller, back in 2016.
So why all the hype and hysteria today then?
What has changed?
Does anyone even have a clue.
Paul Plante says
And Chas Cornweller, staying with you for the moment because you have given us so much to think about and consider with your posts above here, you ask, perhaps rhetorically, “(W)here is the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself,” to which question I must respond, why would any sane and rational person in this country waste even a miniscule particle of emotional energy having or feeling any indignation towards either?
The common meaning of “indignation” is “anger or annoyance provoked by what is perceived as unfair treatment.”
Where is the “unfair treatment” here that should have us feeling either anger, or annoyance, or both, at either Putin or Russia?
Do you honestly feel that Putin and/or Russia have treated you unfairly?
Do you perceive that somehow, Putin and/or Russia have treated the United States of America unfairly?
Or the American people?
To which I would have to respond, what duty of fair treatment do Putin and Russia owe you, the United States of America, or the American people?
And if such a duty is owed, from whence does that duty of fair treatment derive from?
International law, perhaps?
If so, does that mean the United States of America or you, or the American people, have a reciprocal duty to treat Russia and Putin fairly?
And if we have such a reciprocal duty, do you think we treat Putin and Russia fairly?
Or are we, because we are so special and exceptional, being the world’s only superpower, as well as the source of all that is good and holy in the world, exempt from us having to treat either Putin or Russia fairly, because Russia is a third-world country, which makes Putin the leader of a third-world nation?
But if Russia is a third-world country, why are its people and leader so much smarter than our leaders and our people, to the point of where the Russians can manipulate the American people to make the American people do their bidding, as if the American people, with the exclusion of myself, are nothing more than Russian puppets?
As to indignation being felt down here on the East Shore, a lot of it seems to be directed at Wayne Creed for allowing someone not from here to post in the CCM, and a bunch more is directed at me because I still post in Old English, using actual words in complete sentences to form paragraphs to express ideas, instead of limiting myself to bursts of less than 140 characters using the meaningless gibberish of Modern American that the TWEETERS of TWITTER use to convey their ideas on a host of subjects to each other and the candid world, so that with so much indignation aimed at Wayne Creed and myself, there does not seem to be any left over for either Russia or Putin.
And all of that aside, Chas Cornweller, because this is America, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, where people are still free to be indignant at whatever it pleases them to be indignant at, why should we be indignant at Russia and Putin, neither of whom would likely give a damn, if they even knew, when we have so much in this country right here to be indignant at?
I, for example, am indignant at the fact that because of gross negligence and depraved indifference and callous disregard and denial of honest services by Democrat Young Andy Cuomo’s New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, more aptly known as the “department of environmental degradation,” or the “look the other way” crowd, and Young Andy’s Department of Health, a misnomer if there ever was one, and the corrupt Rensselaer County department of health, and yes, Sonia Sotomayor, Chas Cornweller, who has put the federal government stamp of approval on the State of New York policy of retaliating against those trying to challenge endemic corruption in this state by using fraudulently issued involuntary commitment orders to have those people locked away in secure psychiatric facilities, or GULAGS, as if this were in fact Stalinist Russia, that children in Hoosick Falls, New York were drinking water contaminated with PFOA, a carcinogen.
That is a whole lot higher up on my list of things to be indignant about than either Russia or Putin.
And what about the incompetence and corruption of our own national government in this country, Chas Cornweller?
Why shouldn’t we be more indignant about that than we are about Putin, who is a non-entity to me, and Russia?
With respect to feeling some indignation right here at home, as opposed to thousands of miles away and across an ocean in Russia, just yesterday, 6 June 2017, the venerable NEW YORK TIMES had an article entitled “Intelligence Contractor Is Charged in First Leak Case Under Trump” by CHARLIE SAVAGE, wherein was stated as follows:
WASHINGTON — An intelligence contractor was charged with sending a classified report about Russia’s interference in the 2016 election to the news media, the Justice Department announced Monday, the first criminal leak case under President Trump.
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An “intelligence contractor,” Chas Cornweller!
Because the national government in this country has no intelligence of its own, being bereft as it is of intellect, it has to go out into the marketplace to buy some, and isn’t that something a sane and rational people should be indignant about?
Getting back to the NY Times, and who the MORON-O-CRATIC national government has to buy its intelligence from, not being possessed of any of its own, we have:
The Justice Department announced the case against the contractor, Reality Leigh Winner, 25, about an hour after the national-security news outlet The Intercept published the apparent document, a May 5 intelligence report from the National Security Agency.
An accompanying F.B.I. affidavit said she has worked for Pluribus International Corporation at a government facility in Georgia since Feb. 13.
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Pluribus International Corporation, Chas Cornweller?
Do you have any idea whatsoever who or what that company might be, and why it is that the MORON-O-CRACY is buying its intelligence from them?
Do you have any idea where Pluribus International Corporation might be getting its intelligence from that it then sells to the MORON-O-CRACY in the Ten Miles Square of Washington, D.C.?
How trustworthy are they?
And silly me, what was I thinking, of course you don’t know that answer, and truthfully, Chas Cornweller, neither do I.
So, why then should we trust a word they say?
And getting back to indignation and the NY Times, we have:
In a statement, the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, praised the operation.
“Releasing classified material without authorization threatens our nation’s security and undermines public faith in government,” he said.
“People who are trusted with classified information and pledge to protect it must be held accountable when they violate that obligation.”
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What undermines public faith in government in this country is the fact that the government is untruthful and untrustworthy and covfefe incompetent.
As to the “classified information,” which was classified while the Marxist Hussein Obama was still in the white house, the NY Times tells us as follows:
The report described two cyberattacks by Russia’s military intelligence unit, the G.R.U. — one in August against a company that sells voter registration-related software and another, a few days before the election, against 122 local election officials.
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And that, Chas Cornweller, raises the very important question of why Obama was trying to cover that up by classifying it.
What was Obama trying to hide, do you think?
The fact that the national government under his administration was too incompetent to keep this nation safe from the Russians?
If so, then why should we be indignant at the Russians for being superior to our own government, which isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit?
Wouldn’t our indignation be better placed with our own incompetent national government rather than wasting it on Putin and Russia?
Paul Plante says
WHEW, people, what a week this has been!
In fact, what a month this has been, as well.
All kinds of not only big news, but some real huge news, as well, which the MSM dearly loves, since huge news is really great for their ratings, and the better the ratings, of course, the more they can charge for selling advertising, which means bonuses for the big media executives (hey, c’mon, people, this is America and they are capitalists so it is all right for them to capitalize on the news to make those big buck$, even if every now and then they have to create some news, like the NY Times did back when they were trying to make a case for George W. Bush to invade Iraqinam to give a boost to the U.S. defense industry, which in turn gooses the US GDP, which in turn fuels Wall $treet, and everybody knows what is good for Wall $treet is good for America, because of the wealth factor effect, where people think they are rich because the stock market went up, so they go out and buy a lot of things that they wouldn’t have if the main stream media didn’t print fake news stories, which aren’t really fake because they are spin, which is not exactly the same as a lie, so spin is not really fake news, it is spin).
So all of what is going on in Washington, D.C. these days with hearings on seemingly everything under the sun, including a lot of titillating and salacious gossip from ex-FBI director James B. Comey about Donald Trump, who Comey says is a liar, is really very good for the U.S. economy, so that actually, we should be pressing for more of this infantile posturing and drama, and not less, because the more infantile drama there is in Washington, D.C., the better the U.S. economy is going to be, and let’s face it, folks, with a growth rate down around 1%, we need all the help we can get.
As to drama, we need look no further than the venerable “Gray Lady,” the New York Times, in the article “For Trump, the ‘Cloud’ Just Grew That Much Darker” by PETER BAKER, 9 June 2017, where we were told as follows:
Washington has not seen a spectacle quite like this since the days of Watergate, Iran-contra or President Bill Clinton’s impeachment.
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Now, people, when something like that is stated in the NY Times (“Democracy Dies When Buried Under A Mountain of Bull****), it has to be taken as a proven fact, or else they never would have printed it.
As to the spectacle itself which Washington has not seen since the days of Watergate, Iran-contra or President Bill Clinton’s impeachment, here it is in the NY TIMES own words:.
In a Capitol Hill hearing room, the astonishing tableau unfolded of a former F.B.I. director accusing the White House of “lies, plain and simple” and asserting that when the president suggested dropping an investigation into his former national security adviser, “I took it as a direction.”
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Picture that if you will, people, while we in here were sitting there wondering how it was that if the Russians meddled or interfered in our elections, then why and how did Hillary Clinton amass more popular votes than Trump did, in Washington, D.C., an astonishing tableau was unfolding, and how many times in a person’s lifetime does that happen?
And the answer to that is not many, if at all!
In fact, events like this astonishing tableau which unfolded this week in Washington. D.C., in a Capitol Hill hearing room where a former F.B.I. director actually accused the White House of “lies, plain and simple” while asserting that when the president suggested dropping an investigation into his former national security adviser, the former F.B.I. director “took it as a direction” to drop the investigation, happen maybe once every thousand years or so, and here we all are, alive to see it happen in real life, as opposed to having to read about it in a history book or watch it on the History Channel.
So, should we feel lucky?
Or cursed?
Speaking of events which transpire only every thousand years or so, generally when empires are in their death throes, like the Romans and the Byzantines, this is what the NY Times is reporting about it:
“This was a devastating day for the Trump White House, and when the history of the Trump presidency is written, this will be seen as a key moment,” said Peter H. Wehner, who was White House adviser to President George W. Bush.
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A devastating day, people for the Trump White House, and we were there when it happened!
What a thing that is for the young people in America who will have this to tell their grandchildren about, having actually been alive at the moment of this devastating day for the Trump white house!
As to sides being taken and lines in the sand being drawn, here is what the venerable NY Times has to say about it:
“In a credibility battle between Trump and Comey, everybody knows Comey is going to win that war,” said Adam W. Goldberg, who was an associate special White House counsel under Mr. Clinton during Kenneth W. Starr’s investigation.
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WOW!
HOLY COW!
I’m speechless!
But wait, here comes Sarah Huckabee Sanders to Trump’s aid and defense:
“I can definitively say the president is not a liar,” Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the principal deputy press secretary, told reporters.
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So there it is, people: Sarah Huckabee Sanders versus ex-F.B.I. director James B. Comey.
The dude has a considerable height and reach advantage over her, but Sarah comes out swinging, and for her size, she is known as a hard hitter, so who is going to win that contest?
In the meantime, I still would like to know the answer to the question of if the Russians actually did meddle and interfere in our elections, as all the Democrats and political pundits are saying, how did they do it?
And if the Russians meddled and interfered in our elections, then why and how did Hillary Clinton amass more popular votes than Trump did?
If the Russians wanted Trump to win, and who knows, perhaps they did, and they had all this manipulative power over the American people, which is entirely possible and feasible if the American people are now ignorant enough to become Russian or Marxist pawns, and power over the electoral process to such a degree that they could successfully meddle in it, then why didn’t they ensure Trump would win the majority of the popular vote?
Is there anyone out there in the candid world who is intelligent enough to riddle us that, so we can finally understand what all this hoopla in the media concerning all this alleged Russian meddling and interfering in our elections is all about?
andy zahn says
VERBERAGE! TONS OF IT. DIVISIFE. THANK’S OBAMA. Filthy disgusting language in the public square. Long ago I identified a FIFTH COLUMN and James Kalstrom, former assistant director of the FBI sees this as a HUGE very serious threat.
President Trump is doing all manner of GOOD for this country & the working stiffs & gets no credit at all from the left wing media. The Republicans in the congress are a disgrace with so many pulling in all different directins, like babies in a playpen. For ten years we returned them to the SWAMP on their promises which they refuse to honor.
I voted for Scott Taylor because I LOVE veterans & I LOVE SEALS & I know a few of them & appreciate their training, skill, patriotism & the extreme danger they face over & over again while I’m sitting here enjoying my beer, etc. Now I see where Scott Taylor is a “free thinker” & is not supporting our president. He’s upset that Trump cut funding for our Bay & of all people doesn’t seem to get it that the military is FAR more important & MUST be rebuilt.
In the Republican party team work seems non existent while the FIFTH COLUMN is completely unified.
In the military if the commanding officer decides on his plan it’s a must that all subordinate units do exactly as orderded & at the exact time the operation is to begin. Any unit doing what they think best will lead to the anilation of the entire command.
Paul Plante says
We are now caught up in a bizarre melodrama in this highly divided nation at war with itself, andy zahn, similar to the times between the end of our Civil War and the outbreak of WWI as is described in “The Proud Tower,” one of Barbara W. Tuchman’s classic histories of the First World War era.
As a review of that book states, during the fateful quarter century leading up to World War I, the climax of a century of rapid, unprecedented change, a privileged few enjoyed Olympian luxury as the underclass was “heaving in its pain, its power, and its hate.”
There is us again today in this country, just as we were back then with a privileged few, including Hillary Rodham Clinton, enjoying Olympian luxury as once again the underclass is “heaving in its pain, its power, and its hate,” which I posit is linked to ignorance in the populace of the United States of America which ignorance made it so easy for the Russians to manipulate them into casting more popular votes for Hillary to conceal the fact that they were really meddling and interfering in our elections to put Trump in power, because as Robbin Smith says above here @ June 4, 2017 at 1:58 pm:
Good morning Wayne,
I hope all is well in the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky.
I enjoy your observations and read them often however this sounds like textbook Trump apologist talking points.
Your thesis that Russia didn’t “meddle” in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.
Notwithstanding the aforementioned fact that the intelligence community has stated that there is ample evidence to that fact, there is also ample reason for that “meddling” you so patently dismiss.
Not to mention Syria and Ukraine and other hot-bed Russian issues that a President Clinton would be much tougher on then President Trump has shown he is willing to be.
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His last point is the real telling point, andy zahn – if Hillary Clinton was president instead of Donald Trump, who ex-F.B.I director Jim Comey does not seem to like, Hillary would be a whole lot tougher on Syria, most likely leveling it to the ground in an effort to annihilate all her many enemies over there, which would understandably leave the Russians having a smoking ruin for an ally, instead of a country, and I am surprised that anybody in this country thought Putin of Russia was going to bow down and prostrate himself, or abase himself before Hillary Clinton, as if she was the ruler of the world.
So it is entirely understandable that he would consider his country under attack by Hillary Clinton were she to be president, which would then cause him to meddle and intervene in our election and our democracy to put Trump in the White House instead of Hillary Clinton.
I think this is the most blatant and successful attempt by the Russians, who have been threatening this country since I was a child in the 1950s, to actually take over our elections to put their own candidate in office as president as they did with Trump, and as a Korean War-era veteran, andy zahn, I think you can see that that speaks to us on many levels, how easy it is for the Russians to manipulate some 66 million voters in America to cast votes for Hillary Clinton to cover their tracks and they meddled and intervened in our elections to put Trump into the White House instead of history.
That is how I am seeing it, anyway.
As to being surprised that Trump would ask for or demand loyalty from Jim Comey, I frankly do not see what there is to be surprised at, since party loyalty is enforced by both political parties in this country, and as was the case with both Comey and Preet Bharara in New York, disloyalty, or even hints thereof, is punished by termination and ostracizing.
So all these posturing Democrats like Nancy Pelosi who are expressing surprise that Trump is playing politics as usual by asking for Comey’s loyalty as a condition for keeping Comey on are just peddling bull****, and the posturing is so juvenile, infantile, silly and transparent.
Nancy Pelosi is the top-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives because she is the top fundraiser for the party in the House of Representatives.
Her loyalty is to the Democrat party, not the United States of America, so it is highly hypocritical of her to be faulting Trump for doing what she is doing, which is enforcing party loyalty.
Those are my thoughts on it, anyway.
Getting back to “The Proud Tower,” Barbara W. Tuchman brings that era to vivid life including the decline of the Edwardian aristocracy and the Anarchists of Europe and America and the enthusiasm and tragedy of Socialism, epitomized by the assassination of Jean Jaurès on the night the Great War began and an epoch came to a close.
All these years later, andy zahn, an epoch is again coming to a close, and we are right in the midst of it, where more and more, what goes on, like ex-F.B.I. director James Comey making sure notes of a private conversation he had with Trump were not classified top secret so he would be able to release them to a friend of his, which friend would then give the notes Comey did not was classified top secret to the New York Times to force a special prosecutor to be appointed to investigate collusion between Trump and the Russians to put Trump in the White House instead of Hillary, because Comey thought Trump was going to lie about the private conversation to somebody, although Comey did not say who that might be or why Trump would lie to that person, or even talk with that person he was going to lie to about a private conversation between Comey and Trump, make absolutely no sense at all, and andy zahn, I am surprised that you are looking for sense in this infantile insanity coming at us these days from the Ten Miles Square of Washington, D.C.
That is quite a futile search you are embarked on, andy zahn, trying to make sense out of anything going on in Washington, D.C. today.
Paul Plante says
In his post above here, andy zahn uses a term, “FIFTH COLUMN,” that is very likely totally unfamiliar to anyone who was born after 1960 or so, when for whatever reason, the term went out of usage and vogue, so with the permission of the CCM, I would like to touch on that term for a moment in here to see what possible relevance it might have to what is going on around us in the United States of America today.
According to Wikipedia, a “Fifth Column” is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation.
Back in the 1950s, and into the 1960s, of course, the enemy group or nation most often referred to was the Soviet Union, or USSR, and the scourge of global communism, which was actually embraced by many people in this country, not only back then, but today, as well, with regard to communism.
In the Soldier’s Handbook that I was issued by the United States Army in 1968, on page 4, there was this message to us soldiers as to why it was we were serving in uniform back then:
Today, communism is the major threat to our nation.
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Since then, of course, communism is no longer considered to be any kind of threat to this nation, so that the term “Fifth Column” fell into disuse and was forgotten.
Getting back to Wikipedia, the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine, and clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force.
Certainly, today, we are being barraged from right, left and all around, 24/7, with disinformation, so does that indicate the existence of a Fifth Column existing here in the United States of America today, where a group of people in politics and the media are undermining the larger group of us American citizens from within, in favor of Valdimere Putin and Mother Russia?
As to the origins of the term, Wikipedia tells us as follows:
Emilio Mola, a Nationalist general during the Spanish Civil War, told a journalist in 1936 that as his four columns of troops approached Madrid, a “fifth column” of supporters inside the city would support him and undermine the Republican government from within.
So, does Putin then have a “Fifth Column” of supporters in this country who would support him and undermine our Republican government from within?
But wait, what am I talking about here.
We no longer have a Republican government in this country, so there is nothing left to undermine, as the Republican party, which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Republican government, being nothing more than a faction that has taken control of our government in order to be able to feed off the American taxpayer, and the Democrat party, another faction that uses government to feed off the American taxpayer, have already undermined our Republican government and have done away with it, with the acquiescence and connivance of the American people themselves.
So what is there left for a Fifth Column to accomplish now?
Getting back to Wikipedia, in the United States at the end of the 1930s, as involvement in the European war (WWII) seemed ever more likely, those who feared the possibility of betrayal from within used the newly coined term “fifth column” as a shorthand for sedition and disloyalty.
But people, times change, and today, sedition and disloyalty are no longer frowned upon in this country, and in fact, have become commonplace and accepted, so we never think about Fifth Columns, anymore.
The rapid fall of France in 1940 led many to blame a “fifth column” rather than German military superiority, and political factions in France blaming one another for the nation’s defeat, while military officials blamed the civilian leadership, all helped to feed American anxieties, although that was with respect to the Nazis, or fascists, back then, before Russia and the COMMIES became our mortal enemies.
In June 1940, Life magazine ran a series of photos under the heading “Signs of Nazi Fifth Column Everywhere” and in July 1940, Time magazine called fifth column talk a “national phenomenon”.
In August 1940 the New York Times mentioned “the first spasm of fear engendered by the success of fifth columns in less fortunate countries.” and one report identified participants in Nazi “fifth columns” as “partisans of authoritarian government everywhere”, citing Poland, Czechoslovakia, Norway, and the Netherlands.
John Langdon-Davies, a British journalist who covered the Spanish Civil War, popularized the term “fifth column” by publishing an account called The Fifth Column in 1940 and the New York Times published three editorial cartoons that used the term on August 11, 1940.
Then, in November of 1940, Ralph Thomson, reviewing Harold Lavine’s “Fifth Column in America,” a study of Communist and fascist groups in the U.S., in the New York Times, questioned his choice of that title: “the phrase has been worked so hard that it no longer means much of anything”.
And there, people, was the beginning of the end of the use of the term here in the United States of America, the phrase having been worked so hard that it no longer means much of anything, so that by the fifties and sixties, it was largely unknown, and in reality, people no longer cared about communism taking over here, as long as it promised to treat them good, so they no longer were concerned about Fifth Columns in this country.
So it is interesting to see andy zahn using the term today as a topic of concern.
From my perspective, I think andy is now about forty or fifty years too late.
The ship went down long ago!
andy zahn says
Things are now far different with TV; the news? & entertainment? FIRMLY controlled by the left as are the judiciay & the whole educational system. Millions of Americams only hear what tthe networks allows them to hear & spikes what they want to hide.
Add the social media to the mix, the DNC & all who have a vested interest in the FREEBIES, individuals as well as nations (Paris accord, etc). The FIFTH COLUMN.
Remember the school bully? It ended when you left the school grounds or when you finally took him on. Isn’t that way anymore. The kids go home & turn on the computer & it’s all right in their face about how terrible they are & about how everyone hates them. Many are called names, dexter, nerd, just because they aced their tests while the others are failing as in the case of Ben Carson. “They” resent him climbing out of the ghetto. It destroys the “victim” image. As a former classroom teacher some kids ask for trouble bt their own dress or behavior. Sadly this too often leads to suicide.
Lrt’s face facts. Many of our people & kids are just plain nuts. All this addiction, the heroine epidemic. If for no ther reason BUILD THE WALL! So many kids today all they think about is GET HIGH. Try everyhing in the house. Nuts. I saw some of our students buy 3 pencils for a quarter at the student store then break each in half & throw them on the floor. In the cafeteria throw the pennies on the floor.
Paul Plante says
Indeed, andy zahn, and here I was, thinking it was just me, asking myself am I the only person here in the United States of America who is saying to himself, usually in a state of complete and total disbelief as to what is coming out of MORONICA on the Potomac next, “what the covfefe (cuv-pheffy) is going on here?”
As you say, ansy zahn, each day, it becomes more and more unbelievably surreal, and yet, people seem to take that in stride and go about their lives as if this covfefe (cuv-fey-fey) weird **** going on as I write these words down there in MORONICA was actually happening in a different galaxy or maybe a different space-time continuum from the one they reside in, and who knows, that in fact might even be true, and if it is, good for them, because really, people, unless you are into juvenile, adolescent, poorly-scripted soap opera drama intended for an audience with a very short attention span, who would want that covfefe (cuv-fey-fey) **** to be real.
But it must be real, unless all of everything we are hearing from everywhere, including the Washington Post (“Democracy dies when it is buried under a blizzard of bull***), the New York Times, and yes, people, even Fox News, is all fake news contrived in a grand conspiracy among them to keep us off balance and confused.
Because it is confusing, people, or at least to me, who can’t watch soap operas because I never know who the people are or what they are on about, and every time there is a scene change, I would always be asking somebody, “wait a minute, are those two the same two who were just on, or are they different,” because I could never tell, and unless you are really into soap operas and read books about them and follow the commentary about them on the internet, how could you know what was going on, when usually the characters don’t themselves seem to know much about what is going on, not having been given the next day’s script yet.
And so it is with this COMEY SHOW on-going down there in the Ten-Mile Square of MORONICA on the Potomac – that script is being written on a daily basis to include as much farce as possible, mixed with the right amount of suspense to keep you glued to the edge of your seat for days and weeks or months at a time, as is the case here, where finally, after months and months of literal nail-biting suspense, we have finally heard Jim Comey, in his own voice, in his own words, without some lawyer next to him with his hand over the mic while whispering in Jim Comey’s ear, give us the earth-shattering news that he did not trust Donald Trump to tell the truth; Donald Trump wanted Comey to be loyal to Trump, and not Barack Obama any longer; and Loretta Lynch apparently told Comey to lay off Hillary Clinton because Hillary is a protected person, or that is how I understood it anyway.
So, okay, Jimmy.
POINT A here, dude, as I, an American citizen see it, anyway, is this: whether or not Trump tells the truth, or lies all the time like the one who just lost to him is NONE of your business as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Whether you like it or not, dude, whether or not Trump should be president was never your call as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
That was up to the American people, dude, and Trump is what we ended up with.
If you did not like that, dude, then your duty was to resign!
You don’t work for Trump, or didn’t, so his veracity or lack thereof was never your portfolio, as you high-up government dudes like to call your job.
So what relevance does the fact that you thought Trump couldn’t be trusted to tell the truth have to do with anything at all, starting with you doing your job as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
What point is it that you were trying to make there, dude, besides expressing your personal opinion, which you could have done without all this suspense and drama in plain language weeks ago, to save our taxpayers dollars from being wasted in this farcical COMEY SHOW down there in the Ten-Miles Square?
So POINT B, then, Jimmy, is why all this petty, juvenile, adolescent bull**** drama that has cost us taxpayers tens of millions of dollars with all these hearings going on into absolute contrived BULL**** that you yourself helped to spread, as you used the Federal Bureau of Investigation for your own political agenda, as if the Federal Bureau of Investigation were your personal playtoy, which it obviously was.
Why didn’t you come forward much, much earlier, Jim, and simply say, “look, the dude wanted me to be loyal to him; I felt that I couldn’t be loyal to him so I told him that,” end of story.
Why the huge mystery?
The election is long since over, Jimmy, so why is it that you have been shining us along here, with everyone sitting in suspense on the edge of their chairs waiting for your blockbuster testimony, which was really quite pedestrian and not blockbuster, at all, regardless of all the hype the infantile, thumb-sucking MSM heaped on it?
Help us out, dude, if you can!
The candid world would really like to know.
Todd Holden says
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate…
Rudyard Kipling
Paul Plante says
Ah, yes, Todd Holden, “THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON” by Rudyard Kipling, but the Saxon of days of yore in England that Kipling wrote about in that poem, knowledge of which shows you are a literary man, in this country today has been replaced by the Democrat, and as we saw only yesterday, when one of their berserker warriors came forth fully armed to do as much harm as possible to the Norman rulers, now the Republicans in this country in our present times, that wrath has now been fully awakened and whipped into a foam-at-the-mouth frenzy by the exhortations of their high priestess/queen and others of their tribal leaders, and now, the Normans look to be in for it.
The Normans should have listened to the words of the old Norman baron, especially that last line, but then, they never do, do they:
Norman and Saxon
A.D. 11.00
“My son,” said the Norman Baron, “I am dying, and you will be heir
To all the broad acres in England that William gave me for share
When he conquered the Saxon at Hastings, and a nice little handful it is.
But before you go over to rule it I want you to understand this:–
“The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.
When he stands like an ox in the furrow – with his sullen set eyes on your own,
And grumbles, ‘This isn’t fair dealing,’ my son, leave the Saxon alone.
“You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears;
But don’t try that game on the Saxon; you’ll have the whole brood round your ears.
From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
They’ll be at you and on you like hornets, and, if you are wise, you will yield.
“But first you must master their language, their dialect, proverbs and songs.
Don’t trust any clerk to interpret when they come with the tale of their wrongs.
Let them know that you know what they’re saying; let them feel that you know what to say.
Yes, even when you want to go hunting, hear ’em out if it takes you all day.
They’ll drink every hour of the daylight and poach every hour of the dark.
It’s the sport not the rabbits they’re after (we’ve plenty of game in the park).
Don’t hang them or cut off their fingers. That’s wasteful as well as unkind,
For a hard-bitten, South-country poacher makes the best man- at-arms you can find.
“Appear with your wife and the children at their weddings and funerals and feasts.
Be polite but not friendly to Bishops; be good to all poor parish priests.
Say ‘we,’ ‘us’ and ‘ours’ when you’re talking, instead of ‘you fellows’ and ‘I.’
Don’t ride over seeds; keep your temper; and never you tell ’em a lie!”
Paul Plante says
And as this infantile and silly melodrama, now known colloquially as the JIM COMEY SHOW, which is on-going in the Ten Miles Square of Moronica on the Potomac, formerly known in another time as Washington, D.C., progresses along, it has become patently clear that when it comes to narratives, which is what it is all about within the Ten Miles Square of Moronica, where there is no truth, no facts, and no justice, only the narrative; the JIM COMEY SHOW clearly has the best script writers in that burg, bar none.
They are giving us some very high-quality Theater of the Absurd such as we have not seen in the country since the 1970s.
If you are into Theater of the Absurd, and let’s face it, people, that really is all of us, so let’s not kid ourselves here, unless you are a super dour type of person, of course, totally humorless, what a time this is to be alive, especially right now, in what future historians very well will be calling the Golden Age of Theater of the Absurd
For proof of that proposition, just look at this latest revelation to come out of the JIM COMEY SHOW, at us, this courtesy of Reuters, in the article “Comey’s friend says he’s turning over Comey’s Trump memos to FBI -MSNBC” dated 13 June 2017, where we were informed as follows:
A friend of former FBI Director James Comey said on Tuesday he is turning over to the FBI any memos he has of Comey’s conversations with President Donald Trump, MSNBC reported.
It said the friend, Columbia Law School professor Daniel Richman, confirmed to NBC News that “he’s now turning over any Comey memos that he has in his possession to the FBI.”
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HOLY COW, people!
Now, if you want drama, and if you are one of those in America who actually needs a good dose of drama every day to kickstart your engine for you, and there is nothing wrong with that, if that is the way you are hardwired, then this has to be a veritable treat for you, as you, like myself and pretty much the rest of the candid world wonder what kind of script the COMEY SHOW writers will come up with for that exchange:
COMEY FRIEND (to FBI): Hey, FBI dude, sss’up, what’s the haps?
FBI: Hey, Comey friend, how’s yourself; say, what is it that you have there”
COMEY FRIEND: Oh, these are Jim’s memos that he wrote about all of his interactions with Trump while he was still director that he gave to me after telling me to share its contents with a reporter.
FBI: Right, right, he told us that he was going to do that, which is why we didn’t classify them top secret.
What’s he want us to do with them now; did he say?
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And there, the COMEY SHOW will cut to station break and we’ll all have to bear the suspense until the next episode, which is what good screen writing is all about, keep the audience’s attention, and have them coming back wanting more, as was the case with that other FBI drama show, Twin Peaks.
As to what that next episode might be, according to the Reuters article, MSNBC has said that Richman, Comey’s friend here, also said Robert Mueller, special counsel leading an inquiry into possible links between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia, has been in touch with the Senate Judiciary Committee to discuss how the panel can get access to the memos, which certainly sounds like a heavy dose of suspense to me.
And for all of you people wondering why Comey’s friend doesn’t simply hand the memos to Mueller, why all the cloak-and-dagger stuff going on here, where Comey made sure his memos didn’t get classified top secret by the FBI so Comey could give them to his friend to give back to the FBI so the FBI could then give them to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which in turn could discuss with Mueller how Mueller’s panel can get access to the memos, it’s because that is the stuff a good, spell-binding narrative is made of.
You can’t get any mileage out of the main drama queen, Jim Comey, who the scriptwriters recently had saying, “Lordy, I hope there are tapes,” simply making copies of his memos and handing them around like a normal person would do.
Who is going to sit on the edge of their chair for that?
No, you need to make it convoluted and confusing to hold people’s attention today, to give people something solid to TWEET about to each other on TWITTER, and how well the COMEY SHOW scriptwriters are doing on that score versus the lame and tired old crapola being put out by the Trump Show scriptwriters can be seen in this HUFFPOST article “POLL: Americans Trust James Comey Over Trump” by Ariel Edwards-Levy on 10 June 2017, wherein was stated as follows:
Americans largely believe that former FBI director James Comey is more trustworthy than President Donald Trump, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds, although his testimony did little to change minds about the seriousness of the relationship between the White House and Russia.
The story also remains relatively opaque to many Americans.
Only a quarter of the public says they feel they understand the issues relating to the Trump administration’s relationship with Russia very well, although most feel they understand it at least fairly well.
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Opaque, people, keep it opaque if you want them to keep coming back, and here is where the COMEY SHOW scriptwriters tower over the tired hacks writing for the rival Trump Show, which is far behind the COMEY SHOW in the ever-vital ratings game.
As to the lame and stale crap being fed to us by the Trump Show scriptwriters, this Reuters article “Trump goes on offensive against ex-FBI chief, calling him a ‘leaker'” by Doina Chiacu on 9 June 2017, tells it best:
Donald Trump and his aides went on the offensive against James Comey on Friday, deriding as a “leaker” of government information the former FBI director who gave damning testimony against the president this week.
Trump’s personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, plans to file a complaint early next week about Comey’s disclosure of conversations with the president, a person close to the legal team said on Friday.
Kasowitz, who attacked Comey after his testimony for leaking what he called “privileged communications” to the media, will file the complaint with the Justice Department’s inspector general and also make a “submission” to the Senate’s judiciary and intelligence committees about Comey’s testimony.
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HUH?
A “leaker?”
That’s it?
That is the best they can give us – Comey is a “leaker?”
See what I mean, people – how lame is that, I’m asking?
As to the COMEY SHOW writers, in that same article, they handed us this high drama to savor:
Comey told the Senate panel he took meticulous notes of each meeting or conversation he had with Trump because “I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting, and so I thought it really important to document.”
Comey told the Senate panel that he shared an unclassified memo about his February conversation with Trump about Flynn because he hoped it would lead to the appointment of a special counsel.
In response to questions, he said he ensured the memo was unclassified “because sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up.”
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WOW!
How about that for scriptwriting, people: “Because sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up.”
Doesn’t that sound like a line Humphrey Bogart would be saying in a film like the “Maltese Falcon?”
So, people, talk about top-notch script-writing, that is a line that will become a classic in the same class as “endeavor to persevere!”
So what are the Trump Show writers going to come back with?
Or will they finally realize they are out of their league and throw in the towel?
All I can say is, stay tuned, don’t touch that dial, and now a word from our sponsors before we take a station break!
andy zahn says
MORONICA. Perfecy! Many people don’t know the half of it. Don’t really care. Catch the network FEEED & mainly care about sports news.
What I’ve been saying about FIFTH COLUMN & the violence, demonstrations & filthy language ALWAYS from the left showed itself yesterday. Just the tip of the iceberg.
Our kids, some, are in rebellion in the schools & are lazy & resent those who excell as it proves the material is being taught & received but that they are not working & not receiving. Same for Ben Carson & others who climbed out of the ghettos are resented because those people prefer to say they are victims. They call everyone who has a different way of study or life a name. Dexter, Nerd, Uncle Tom, Basket of Deplorables, etc.
This has been brewing for a long time with Obama & Holder really doing a number, encouraging anarchy. Probably the first & only head of state to be a main part of a FIFTH COLUMN to overthrow his own government.
You, Paul Plante are feeling exactly how the left wants you to feel; that you & I are in some odd minority when it’s their loudspearkers & silencing all opposition that we are hearing. They want us to believe the rules of nature have now changed. That up is down, etc.
Paul Plante says
But up in fact is now down, andy zahn, and when given the command, “forward march,” you execute that command by marching backwards to the rear, which is now the direction forward is in.
And how I feel is that I and we are locked into a moronic TV soap opera reality show where absolutely nothing makes any kind of sense and there is no escape, unlike Dante’s Inferno.
As to that moronic TV soap opera reality show where absolutely nothing makes any kind of sense and there is no escape, just yesterday, in the ProPublica article “Trump’s Personal Lawyer Boasted That He Got Preet Bharara Fired” by Jesse Eisinger and Justin Elliott published 14 June 2017, the COMEY SHOW script writers, who, let’s face it, have been dominating the show here, gave us this earth-shaking revelation to chew over and ponder on:
Comey testified last week that Trump had tried to “create some sort of patronage relationship.”
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WOW and HOLY COW all wrapped up together in one compact little ball, andy zahn!
That is some pretty hot stuff, on the surface, anyway.
We are supposed to be surprised and shocked that the head of a political faction in a political system based on the Spoils System and maintenance of faction loyalty through political patronage would treat the post of director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a political sinecure., which it is, and would then dare to dangle that political plum before the face of Jim Comey while telling him that if he would just make nice, that plum could be his.
OH, the horror; OH, the scandal; OH, the humanity!
What is this nation coming to, when all of its government positions, including judgeships, are nothing more than political plums to be doled out to the members of the faction in power who are loyal to the faction leader.
The truth is, we have never left the day of the ward heeler here in the United States of America, especially down there in Moronica on the Potomac, which is no longer called Washington so as to not bring dishonor on that name, and that is what Trump expected Comey to be – one of his ward heelers, as opposed to a ward heeler for Obama, who was the first Marxist to be elected president of the United States of America in our history.
For you younger folks, as Wikipedia tells us, a ward heeler is an American urban political operative who works for a political party in a political ward, the smallest electoral subdivision of a city, usually in order to achieve an election result.
A ward heeler may have controlling influence with a small clique in the ward organization and often, ward heelers have been low-level operatives soliciting votes and performing campaign tasks on behalf of a political boss, including get-out-the-vote efforts, placing campaign signage, coordination of constituent support, etc.
The term ward heeler originated during the period of machine politics around the turn of the 20th century, when powerful political machines in major cities run by political bosses, such as the Tammany Hall organization in New York City, used corruption, such as graft and patronage to maintain their power, so that “ward heeler” has the connotation of a corrupt political operative.
As integral players in the “spoils system”, ward heelers were often both recipients and distributors of patronage, illegal benefits from the political machine.
Examples of illegal acts which a ward heeler might do include tearing down an opposition party’s posters or paying constituents for their votes.
In return for his services the ward heeler was often given a sinecure job, such as in the city’s civil service, which was controlled by the organization.
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The FBI director position is just another ward heeler position, albeit on a bit grander scale.
As to the Spoils System, Wikipedia tells us that in politics and government, a spoils system, also known as a patronage system, which the COMEY SHOW scriptwriters have America’s Drama Queen of the moment complaining about vociferously in that ProPublica article above, is a practice in which a political party, after winning an election, gives government civil service jobs to its supporters, friends and relatives as a reward for working toward victory, and as an incentive to keep working for the party—as opposed to a merit system, where offices are awarded on the basis of some measure of merit, independent of political activity.
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An incentive to keep working for the party — wow, how about that!
Apparently, the scriptwriters for the COMEY SHOW want us to believe that the politically virginal Jim Comey is the only person here in the United States of America who has never heard of the Spoils System, and therefore doesn’t understand how it is that things in Moronica actually work when it comes to holding high-level jobs down there like director of the FBI, which is a political position, not a merit position.
As to the term “Spoils System,” it was derived from the phrase “to the victor belongs the spoils” by New York Senator William L. Marcy, referring to the victory of Andrew Jackson in the election of 1828, with the term spoils meaning goods or benefits taken from the loser in a competition, election or military victory.
As Wikipedia tells us, before 1829, moderation had prevailed in the transfer of political power from one U.S. president to another, but Andrew Jackson’s first inauguration, March 4, 1829, signaled a sharp departure from the past as an unruly mob of office seekers made something of a shambles of the event, and though some tried to explain this as democratic enthusiasm, the real truth was Jackson supporters had been lavished with promises of positions in return for political support.
And we have had that shambles in Moronica ever since, and right up til today, whether Jim Comey has cognizance of that reality, or not.
According to what used to be common schoolboy/schoolgirl history here in the USA, at the beginning of Jackson’s administration, fully 919 officials were removed from government positions, amounting to nearly 10 percent of all government postings, and the Jackson administration attempted to explain this unprecedented purge as reform, or constructive turnover, aimed at creating a more efficient system where the chain of command of public employees all obeyed the higher entities of government.
And here we are today, supposed to be surprised at Donald Trump acting like he was Andy Jackson, especially when Trump has already told the world Andy Jackson is one of his political heroes.
Go figure, andy zahn, because it is beyond me!
And we are an odd minority in the America of today when you really stop to think about it.
Why?
Because we are some of the remaining few in this country with attention spans beyond a few nano-seconds while retaining the ability to engage in critical thinking, a trait that seems to be becoming more and more of a liability as the days go by and we sink as a nation further and further into moronic idiocy, as is the case with this on-going passion play in Moronica where Jim Comey just became famous for trash-talking Trump and for dishing up gossip on Trump and Loretta Lynch, who made Comey feel queasy (poor Jim).
What a show is all I can say.
andy zahn says
I can’t believe the cancer throughout this entire government & the hatred , filthy language & violence on the part of this FIFTH COLUMN. The FIFTH COLUMS consists of the left wing media, the DNC, the educational & judicial systems, other groups & the dupes who think it’s fashionable to protest & demonstrate when they have no idea what they are protesting.
On Fox, thank God for Fox, this morning, “they are sending a fire truck to a candle burning while the huge fire we have goes un noticed” AMEN!
This whole thing of Trump colluting with the Russians is a LIE. Common sense. Who would Putin rather deal with, Trump or Clinton? It was Clinton who gave Putin 20% of our uranium & Clinton would have been 4 more years of Obama on the worls scene meaning Putin could annex & do as he pleased.
I wonder about Sessions & really wonder about Rubenstien. Why a Special Counsel & why Mueller with his baggage. The left is clearly indide the tent.
Trump, as straight forward as he is is still far too P C. The Conservatives need to tell it like it is & toes must be stepped on. It’s time to stop humoring these crazies & neer-do- wwells & stop asking us to keep looking the other way.
If Sessions and/or Rubenstein are not on board then fire them & I suggest Andrew Napalatano, Mark Levin & Rudy to head up the DOJ & clean house. Now PROSECUTE ALL the traitors & those who comprimised classified information as well as ALL who took part in the MANY scandals over the past eight years.
I think there’s plenty there to go after Obama & Clinton for TREASON. Obama with money to Iran & swapping 5 “generals” for one traitor/deserter. Clinton for the uranium deal & maybe the top secret stuff on an unsecured server. Fast & Furious, Benghazi & the IRS. I would even go back to Ruby Ridge & Waco & LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY.
Paul Plante says
Way back in 1926, andy zahn, in her famous Vasser College Speech which presaged Hillary Rodham Clinton’s even more famous 1969 Wellesley College speech, where Hillary introduced the candid world and everybody here in the United States of America to the logical concept of inauthentic reality which Hillary used to describe her time within the cloistered environment of elite Wellesley College in Wellesley, Massachusetts, Margaret Sanger, an educated woman said to be one of Hillary’s role models, told the candid world as follows, looking forward in time to exactly what you are describing above, a set of conditions that can be equally attributed to the two political factions in this country that have taken over what is supposed to be our government as a private cookie jar for themselves:
“The American public is taxed, heavily taxed, to maintain an increasing race of morons, which threatens the very foundations of our civilization.”
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That was almost one hundred years, or five generations ago, andy zahn, and when one fast forwards back to our times today, one finds him or herself confronted with what can only be called a moronic, surreal and idiotic reality that engulfs one from all sides today, just as Margaret Sanger predicted would happen five generations ago.
In support of that statement, and her prediction, for example, we have just come through what was billed, quite erroneously, in fact, as a presidential campaign, when it was more like a gag TV show called “Idiots on Parade,” where two of the most unpopular people ever to run for American president wasted our time calling each other childish names day after day after day, while the people of America cheered them on, and one of them, the one billed by the media as a pathological liar, got some 66 million votes.
66 million votes for a pathological liar for United States president in 2016 is 22 times the entire population of the United States of America at the end of the American Revolution, circa 1787.
And just the other day, 17 June 2017, we were informed thusly by Reuters:
YOKOSUKA, Japan- U.S. Navy destroyer USS Fitzgerald sailed back to its base in Yokosuka, with seven of its sailors still missing after it collided with a Philippine-flagged container ship more than three times its size in eastern Japan early on Saturday.
The Fitzgerald, an Aegis guided missile destroyer, collided with the merchant vessel at about 2:30 a.m. local time (1730 GMT), some 56 nautical miles southwest of Yokosuka, the Navy said.
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Except today, we are hearing from the Japanese Coast Guard that the collision happened an hour earlier, and the U.S. Navy was apparently trying to put the hush on to cover up the true circumstances of the collision, to deflect attention away from the question of exactly how an Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer built around the Aegis Combat System and the SPY-1D multifunction passive electronically scanned array radar could run into or get run over by a container ship carrying 1,080 containers at around 29,000 tons displacement, which dwarfs the 8,315-ton U.S. warship.
How does something like that happen in clear weather, andy zahn?
According to Reuters, the Fitzgerald had in February completed $21 million worth of upgrades and repairs.
So what went wrong?
Did they forget to tighten a bolt that holds the steering wheel on, or did a floormat get caught under the gas pedal causing an unintended acceleration?
Or were they all watching porn on their computers or texting while driving?
By way of background, those warships were designed as multimission destroyers to fit the antiaircraft warfare (AAW) role with their powerful Aegis radar and surface-to-air missiles; antisubmarine warfare (ASW), with their towed sonar array, anti-submarine rockets, and ASW helicopter; antisurface warfare (ASuW) with their Harpoon missile launcher; and strategic land strike role with their Tomahawk missiles.
With upgrades to their AN/SPY-1 phased radar systems and their associated missile payloads as part of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, the ships of this class have also begun to demonstrate some promise as mobile antiballistic missile and anti-satellite weaponry platforms.
So how does a ship with all that radar not see a huge container ship bearing down on it?
Did somebody put the radar on backwards or something when the refit was being done, so that the captain thought the container ship was going when it really was coming?
Or was the captain, who took over that ship on May 13th of this year under the new commander-in-chief, simply incompetent, but got the job anyway through his family’s political connections?
“Our boy likes to waterski, Mr. President, so can you give him a faster ship than that mine sweeper he is now on – that thing is so slow it can’t get him up on top of the water!”
And then we just had a story entitled “Another insider attack in Afghanistan leaves 7 Americans wounded” in The Military Times by Shawn Snow and Andrew deGrandpre on June 17, 2017, where we were informed as follows:
At least seven U.S. troops were wounded Saturday when an Afghan soldier allegedly fired on them inside a military compound in northern Afghanistan, the second apparent insider attack in a week.
The attacker, a commando assigned to the Afghan army’s 209th corps, allegedly fired three rocket-propelled grenades at the Americans before continuing the attack with two M4 carbines, an Afghan defense officials told Military Times.
Saturday’s attack marks at least the second violent incident so far this month involving American personnel embedded with Afghan security forces.
It comes exactly one week after an Afghan soldier allegedly opened fire on U.S. troops, killing three and wounding one.
It is significant, too, that the attacker at Camp Shaheen was a member of the Afghan army’s elite commando force.
The U.S. strategy in Afghanistan focuses heavily on further developing these units, with plans well underway to double their size in coming years.
U.S. troops remain at risk elsewhere in the country.
In mid-March, three U.S soldiers were shot and wounded in another apparent insider attack at an Afghan military complex in Helmand province, where a Task Force of 300 U.S. Marines is embedded with the Afghan security forces today.
Saturday’s attack comes amid talk in Washington of sending another 4,000 American troops to step up counter-terror operations and help break what senior military leaders have declared a stalemate in the 16-year war with the Taliban.
President Donald Trump has delegated authority on troop numbers in the war-torn region to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.
“We are not winning in Afghanistan,” Mattis told senators on Tuesday.
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Mattis, of course, is the famous Marine general “Mad Dog” Mattis, and if anyone should know about us not winning in Afghanistnam after seventeen years of trying, it would be the “Mad Dog,” if it would be anyone.
So what is up with that, andy zahn?
And just yesterday, 18 June 2017, Reuters informed us that our new commander in chief, who knows absolutely nothing about military affairs, or governing a free people, for that matter, shot down a Syrian jet inside Syria as he presses forward with a military invasion of that country to surpass the military invasion of Iraqinam by George W. Bush, to show the world that this new commander in chief is the greatest military mind on the face of the earth bar none, even greater than Alexander the Great, even though he is more like the Byzantine Heraclius.
Is there any system of logic that can be employed to make any of that make any kind of sense, andy zahn?
Those are only some of the chips that are now falling as they may, thanks to these two rival political factions in this country cultivating and creating morons as they have been doing over the last 100 years or more, which is what Margaret Sanger was referring to in 1926, in order to swell their bases with people totally incapable of thinking for themselves, and thus, are incapable of questioning what is going on in the world around them, which makes then perfect party members for the two rival factions.
And between the two factions, andy zahn, you are looking at over 200 million people.
MORONICA, andy zahn, we did not get here by accident, and now that we are here, there is no way to undo the past and no way to go forward, but downhill, as we are seeing in the news every day, perhaps especially on Fox.
When in 1926, Margaret Sanger said “The American public is taxed, heavily taxed, to maintain an increasing race of morons, which threatens the very foundations of our civilization,” the future she predicted then is where we are right now, and as you point out, andy zahn, not only have the very foundations of our civilization been threatened, they are now collapsing from rot.
Too late to turn back, andy zahn, and no rational forward to go.
Hype to the right of us, hysteria to the left, and idiocy all around!
What a legacy for our grandchildren that is.
Paul Plante says
As to Fifth Columns, andy zahn, they have been with us since our earliest days as a fledging nation, and they will always continue to be with us, because in any form of government, be it tyanny, despotism, and especially democracy, there is always a power struggle, which is what Marxism is based on – class struggle.
With respect to Fifth Columns at the time of the beginning of our political history as a nation, I refer you to a document entitled CALENDAR OF HISTORICAL MANUSCRIPTS RELATING TO THE WAR OF THE REVOLUTION IN THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE ALBANY NY, wherein is found this following court martial record from Tuesday the 10th June 1777, at a time when the independent state of New York was threatened with an invasion of the British army from north and south and west, to wit:
The Court met pursuant to adjournment.
Present: Colonel STEPHEN J. SCHUYLER, President
Colonels:
Anthony Van Bergen
Jacobus Van Schoonhoven
Peter Vrooman
Peter Van Ness
Lieut. Col.:
Philip P. Schuyler
John H. Beekman
Henry K. Van Rensselaer
James Gordon
Cornelius Van Vechten
Majors:
Abraham Cuyler
Issac Goes
Captain:
Andrew Douw
Jacob Miller of Half Moon District in the County of Albany, being a Prisoner was brought before the Court & the Judge Advocate Exhibited the following charges against him Vizt
“You Jacob Miller stand charged for that you being a member of the state of New York, residing within the said state, protected by the Laws thereof & owing allegiance thereunto, on the 21st Day of March last and at Divers other days and Times both before & after and since the 16th Day of July 1776 at the District of Half Moon in the County of Albany, Wickedly, Traitorously & Treasonably & Contrary to your allegiance aforesaid Did levy war against the state of New York within the same whilst owing allegiance thereto, Enlist men for the service of the King of Great Britain now in actual war against the said state and being adherent to the said King of Great Britain & others the Enemys of the said state Contrary to the Resolution of the Convention of said state.”
The Prisoner pleads not Guilty to the Charge.
Friday 13th June
The Court met pursuant to adjournment.
Present as before.
The Judge Advocate having no further Evidence to produce the Court proceeded to the Consideration of the Evidence offered and are of the opinion that the Prisoner is Guilty of Levying war against the State & being adherent to the King of Great Britain and do sentence him to suffer death.
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That death was by hanging, and there are many such court martial records in there like that, where death by hanging was the punishment for disloyalty in a time of war.
And then we come forward in time, andy zahn, to Dennis v. United States, 341 U.S. 494 (1951), which was a United States Supreme Court case relating to Eugene Dennis, General Secretary of the Communist Party USA.
In that matter, the Court ruled that Dennis did not have the right under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution to exercise free speech, publication and assembly, if the exercise involved the creation of a plot to overthrow the government.
Overthrow the government, andy zahn!
I’m over 70 now and I have been barraged with that same bull**** all of my life, somebody out there with yet another plot to overthrow our government, which is actually quite easy to do if you have the money, because it is for sale, lock, stock and barrel to the highest bidders, something the Russians know quite well, so to overthrow it now, all you need do is buy it and change it.
And if I live to a hundred, andy zahn, there will still be somebody out there trying to overthrow the government, just because.
Getting back to the Dennis case, in 1948, eleven Communist Party leaders were convicted of advocating the violent overthrow of the US government and for the violation of several points of the Smith Act, and the party members who had been petitioning for socialist reforms claimed that the act violated their First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and that they served no clear and present danger to the nation.
The eleven petitioners were Benjamin J. Davis – Chairman of the CPUSA’s Legislative Committee; Eugene Dennis – General Secretary; John Gates – Leader of the Young Communist League; Gil Green – Member of the National Board; Gus Hall – Member of the National Board; Irving Potash – Furriers Union official; Jack Stachel; Robert G. Thompson – Lead of the New York organization; John Williamson – Member of the Central Committee; Henry Winston – Member of the National Board; and Carl Winter – Lead of the Michigan organization.
Yes, andy zahn, how about that now – the dreaded and very much feared Communist party operating right here in the United States of America with its own legislative committee.
Talk about Fifth Columns, alright, they are hiding right there in plain sight, all around us each and every day.
The 1949 trial was the longest federal trial in US history at that time, and in the trial, prosecutor John McGohey did not assert that the defendants had a specific plan to violently overthrow the US government, but rather alleged that the CPUSA’s philosophy generally advocated the violent overthrow of governments.
YAWN, you know what I am saying, andy zahn?
How do some Commies violently overthrow a government of the people who are themselves armed and not into being violently overthrown by some Commies?
Getting back to Dennis and Fifth Columns, the prosecutor in that case as his proof proffered articles, pamphlets and books (such as The Communist Manifesto) written by authors such as Karl Marx, and the prosecution argued that the texts advocated violent revolution, and that by adopting the texts as their political foundation, the defendants were also personally guilty of advocating violent overthrow of the government.
The five attorneys who volunteered to defend the communists were familiar with leftist causes and personally supported the defendants’ rights to espouse communist views.
They were Abraham Isserman, George W. Crockett, Jr., Richard Gladstein, Harry Sacher, and Louis F. McCabe.
Defendant Eugene Dennis represented himself.
The defense employed a three-pronged strategy: First, portraying the CPUSA as a conventional political party, which promoted socialism by peaceful means; second, employing the “labor defense” tactic to attack the trial as a capitalist venture which could never provide a fair outcome to proletarian defendants; and third, using the trial as an opportunity to publicize CPUSA policies.
The defense deliberately antagonized the judge by making a large number of objections and motions, which led to numerous bitter engagements between the attorneys and Judge Medina.
As Wikipedia tells it, out of the chaos, an atmosphere of “mutual hostility” arose between the judge and attorneys and Medina came to believe that the defense attorneys were using the trial as an opportunity to publicize communist propaganda, and that they deliberately disrupted the trial using any means they could, so that Judge Medina attempted to maintain order by removing defendants who were out of order.
In the course of the trial, Medina sent five of the defendants to jail for outbursts, and several times in July and August, the judge held defense attorneys in contempt of court, and told them their punishment would be meted out upon conclusion of the trial.
On October 14, 1949, after the defense rested their case, the judge gave the jury instructions to guide them in reaching a verdict.
After deliberating for seven and a half hours, the jury returned guilty verdicts against all eleven defendants, with the judge sentencing ten defendants to five years’ imprisonment and a $10,000 fine each ($100,657 in 2016 dollars), and the decision was affirmed by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.
On June 4, 1951, Chief Justice of the United States Fred M. Vinson, who was joined by Justices Stanley Forman Reed, Sherman Minton, and Harold H. Burton, affirmed the conviction of the petitioner, Dennis, a leader of the Communist Party in the United States who had been convicted of conspiring and organizing for the overthrow and destruction of the United States government by force and violence under provisions of the Smith Act.
In affirming the conviction, a plurality of the Court adopted Judge Learned Hand’s formulation of the clear and probable danger test, an adaptation of the clear and present danger test:
In each case [courts] must ask whether the gravity of the “evil”, discounted by its improbability, justifies such invasion of free speech as necessary to avoid the danger.
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With respect to our times, and people advocating the overthrow of the democracy which now exists in this country that is controlled by factions that do not represent the interests of the American people at large, in 1957, the Court in Yates v. United States restricted the holding in Dennis, ruling that the Smith Act did not prohibit advocacy of forcible overthrow of the government as an abstract doctrine.
While Yates did not overrule Dennis, it rendered the broad conspiracy provisions of the Smith Act unenforceable, and finally, in 1969, Brandenburg v. Ohio held that “mere advocacy” of violence was per se protected speech.
Brandenburg was a de facto overruling of Dennis, defining the bar for constitutionally unprotected speech to be incitement to “imminent lawless action”.
“Imminent lawless action,” andy zahn, as we watch lawless action on-going on a fairly daily basis now, all around us.
When the Supreme Court of the United States rules, as it already has, that advocacy of violence against others, which is what the violent overthrow of a government really is, an insurrection against established authority and those who cleave to that established authority, is protected in this country, then that is and was a recipe for the political chaos that now surrounds us.
Or that is how I see it from my perspective, anyway.
Paul Plante says
And in another of those seemingly surreal confluences of events that are so closely associated with the Cape Charles Mirror, with the operative theory in the scientific community that studies and ponders such things presently being that it is because the Cape Charles Mirror is within the gravitational pull of that huge meteorite stuck down there somewhere in the earth under Cape Charles, which serves to slightly alter the gravitational field in Cape Charles with respect to the rest of the world, so that these surreal cosmic confluences of events can occur, like this thread coming back to life again at the very same time that the Cape Charles Mirror is running a timely article entitled “Love and the Death: How Russiagate Killed the Media,” as well as a response to Hillary Clinton coming back to life as a political person in the MSM, as she recently did in a TIME magazine article entitled “Hillary Clinton: Anyone Else Would Have Been Indicted After Mueller Report” on 23 April 2019 where we had this ridiculous and asinine statement from Hillary, in light of the original post in this thread as follows:
Hillary Rodham Clinton says she agrees with those who argue that Russian meddling cost her the 2016 election and that President Donald Trump has obstructed justice in covering up his campaign’s interactions with a foreign adversary.
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And before this gets lost in the shuffle, all you people who accuse the Cape Charles Mirror of being biased towards any point of view should consider the following language by the editorial staff of the Cape Charles Mirror above here, to wit:
Note: Thanks Robbin, nice to hear from you old friend.
This particular piece is written by Paul Plante.
We attempt to present as many different view points as we can, left, middle and right or from where ever we can.
Would love to publish something from you!
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With that said, let’s go back to June 4, 2017 when this RUSSIAGATE bidness was just starting to boil, and the opening lines of the original post, to wit:
Yes, people, hype and hysteria, and to be frank, more political bull**** than I ever recall being subjected to in this country after a presidential election was over in the last seventy years, as in:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
That, of course, is Democrat and two-time loser Hillary Rodham Clinton being quoted in a puff piece entitled “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister in the Daily Intelligencer on 26 May 2017.
That puff piece starts as follows:
It’s the day after Donald Trump has fired FBI director James Comey, the man who many — including Clinton — believe is responsible for the fact that she is spending this Wednesday in May working at a dining-room table in Chappaqua and not in the Oval Office.
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
“And certainly the Trump campaign relished everything that was done to me in July and then particularly in October.”
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“Everything that was done to me?”
Like what, exactly, Hillary?
What was “done” to you that hasn’t been done to other presidential candidates in this nation going right on back to poor old toothless dog John Adams in this nation’s first contested presidential election?
And that answer is nothing.
But that is just a triviality – Hillary will be whining about losing this election for the rest of her life, blame-casting everywhere but where blame should be cast, which is with herself.
So my purpose in writing doesn’t have to do with Hillary Clinton’s ceaseless whining and blame-casting; to the contrary, it has to do with all this hype and hysteria we are being fed on a daily basis by the media about how our supposed “democracy” itself is threatened, which point comes across once more in that Daily Intelligencer puff piece as follows:
But “having said that, I (Clinton) think what’s going on now is an effort to derail and bury the Russia inquiry, and I think that’s terrible for our country.”
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And just about two years later, here we are, firmly on the other side of that, and what we now know is that the supposed Russia inquiry that really got derailed and buried was the dirty money that was alleged to be coming through Russia to Hillary and the DNC.
Talk about news that disappeared overnight as the MSM spun the narrative on a dime so that it went from Hillary and the DNC on the receiving end of dirty money from Russia to OMG, Trump was seeking Russian help to beat Hillary, which charge remains with us today in the form of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE charges against Trump as a result of the Trump Tower meeting where the RUSSIAN PROSECUTOR presented Trump Jr. with documentary evidence of dirty money from Russia going to Hillary and the DNC, which in turn scared the living **** out of Trump Jr, because he is no hero, and he then bolted from the meeting and has kept his mouth shut about it precisely because he did not want to get his *** in the middle of that road between Hillary Clinton and the DNC and whoever in Russia was laundering the money, where he was sure to get run down and left flat on the pavement like a frisbee.
As you read the article entitled “Love and the Death: How Russiagate Killed the Media” on April 28, 2019, you will find this thread to be an informative companion piece for background.
Paul Plante says
So, since this is background to the thread entitled “Love and the Death: How Russiagate Killed the Media” on April 28, 2019, to see where this sick saga begins, let us whisk ourselves back to Wednesday, 14 December 2016 http://dailynewselites.blogspot.com/2016/12/obama-russia-did-not-hack-our-elections.html?m=0 where we have an article quoted above entitled “Obama: ‘Russia Did Not Hack Our Elections’” where we have this essential background, as follows:
President Obama has been forced to admit that Russia did not hack the U.S. elections as is being widely reported in the mainstream media.
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See that, people, back in December of 2016, some two years and four months ago now, the main stream media, which have proven themselves to be nothing more than narrative spinners and bull**** artists and outright liars in the intervening time, were widely reporting that Russia did hack the U.S. elections, which patently false and invented charges in the now thoroughly discredited MSM, including the Washington Post, are what has led in an unbroken path to all this hoopla today that Trump is in bed with the Russians and is trying to not only destroy our precious democracy, but to steal the soul of our nation, as well, when that was false news, as we see by going back to that December 2016 article as follows:
During an interview with the Daily Show’s Trevor Noah, Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process.
“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he admitted.
“And we’re confident that we can guard against.”
Obama dismissed the hack and the leaked emails as “not very interesting” and lacking “explosive” revelations.
He puzzled as to why it was an “obsession” by the news media despite the knowledge that the Russians were responsible.
“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said.
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And talk about serious relevant existential questions pertinent to our times today being buried by a media stampede to spectacularize something the DEMOCRAT Barack Hussein Obama said was a great big nothing burger.
There is where this BULL**** STORM from the media really began – with their efforts to take something that Obama told us was nothing and instead turn it into an overwhelming story, and constant source of breathless coverage that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff.
So when you read the CCM thread entitled “Love and the Death: How Russiagate Killed the Media” on April 28, 2019, this is where it all began – from nothing at all came the MEDIA ****STORM OF THE CENTURY, and people wonder why it is called by its proper name of FAKE ******* NEWS!
Go figure.