Three more accidents occurred near the Food Lion shopping center (Country Place). Two accidents happened within an hour of each other, one entering the southern portion of Country Place and one exiting the northern end go to the traffic light. The second accident occurred while the driver was attempting to make a U-turn. If you have been following recent articles about proposed plans for this intersection, you will remember that VDOT is recommending a U-turn at the traffic light. This is clearly dangerous and not a serious option. The proposed plans, while spending millions, never address the actual issue with this dangerous section of roadway.
Accident near Stone Road and Rt 13 (Photo Granville Hogg)
Former Supervisor Granville Hogg has provided an alternative solution, and in many ways a better and safer solution:
• Add a new road from Food Lion/Dollar General onto South Bayside Road. Most traffic would exit on this road. You could still go out of the current Food Lion exit to go northbound. You would not be allowed to exit out of Food Lion going southbound. The crossover at the current Food Lion intersection would be closed to all traffic. The land for this option is already owned by the state (see photo)
• Lengthen and widen the turn lanes at the Stone Road/S. Bayside (Cape Charles/Cheriton) intersection, northbound and southbound
• Reduce the speed limit from Bayview Circle (Corner Mart) to Hardee’s to 45 miles per hour
Your comments to VDOT are needed as they consider options. Your opinion matters.
Another accident in the same hour (Photo Granville Hogg)
Submit your written or oral comments to Mr. John Harman, Transportation Engineer, Virginia Department of Transportation, 1700 North Main Street, Suffolk, VA 23434. You may also e-mail your comments to JohnG.Harman@VDOT.Virginia.gov. Please reference “Route 13 at Stone Road Comments” in the subject line.
Please take the time to go to the VDOT link for more information and to make your voice heard.
I have often wondered why there is not an exit onto South Bayside Rd. It makes perfect sense. I’m moving to Cape Charles next week and have had concerns about entering and exiting the shopping center for the past ten years I have been visiting.
There also needs to be a yellow light that changes to flashing when the Stone/Bayside Road light is about to change. They have this at Townfield road, Notrhampton Blvd in VA Beach, Pocomoke City, etc. You can see everybody slowing down when it starts flashing.
Can we get a traffic light at the intersection near Corner Mart in Cape Charles ?? That is a dangerous intersection.
The basic problem is the traffic light at Stone road & Rt13 .This causes heavy traffic Back up in both directions a Simple solution to keep traffic moving is replace the Light with a traffic circle. Then a
connector road From Bay shore road to Food Lyon and the shopping Mall .this is just a basic plan That would Allow future Development behind and at north end Food lyon.
The idea of lowering the speed limit to 45 mph should be done today .
As for the final solution , I wonder about the future plans of the railroad . If the railroad crossing were to be removed in the future , the final solution would be simplified .
Why not lower the speed limit to 45 and put a traffic light there.
Why not use common sense and turn right, make a comfortable U-turn and your destination would be on the same side of the road that you are?
With Liberals, common sense is in short order.
With the majority of people in America today, Tim Parks, common sense is in short order, because life in America no longer requires people to have or use common sense.
Just look at this situation under discussion in here for proof of that.
How does something like this just happen?
How is it that the people in charge never see these impacts coming?
Build subdivisions and shopping malls and then find out afterwards that the road systems are inadequate to handle the traffic.
Whatever happened to the words “GROSS NEGLIGENCE?”
Oh, whoops, excuse me, what am I thinking – we don’t use those words because we don’t want the fools in charge to have to feel bad about themselves for creating messes like this, and we live in a no-fault age, so of course the people in charge cannot be held accountable.
What a nation America has become.
It really is very much like the world so accurately depicted by Ayn Rand (oh, how the liberals will scream and howl at the sound of that name) in Atlas Shrugged.
And I am speaking as an engineer.
Why do it right when you can do it twice.
That seems to be the mentality in America today.
How pathetic.
Thanks for the turn arrow at Rt13 and Stone Rd. The 45 mph sign needs to go up ASAP.
Thinking beyond the envelope . On the Big Island in Hawaii there is a major highway called the Nimitz … The major highway . When it became a long parking lot , there was no possible way to add lanes . The solution , now about 50 years old , was to build an elevated express highway on top of the old one .
Mr. C,
I have long advocated a flyover intersection program here in Jersey. I foresee a use for a steel bridging system that would simply drop into existing intersections.
Cost effective, time effective and ignored at every level I’ve approached.
Sigh…………..
When the Marines were attacking to the rear in Korea, Mike, after their encirclement up on the frozen Chosin, bridge sections capable of supporting armored vehicles actually were flown in where the Chinese had blown the road, and that was under combat conditions.
My Uncle Joe was at that battle, Chosin River. He told me the Chinese poured over the hill like water, never ending and ceaseless. He also spoke of never experiencing cold like that. And he only told me that about a year ago, never spoke a word about it until then.
Lifelong Democrat and Union member, he is in awe of the progress POTUS Trump has made in North Korea.
And yes, the genesis of my idea came from watching WWII and other war movies.
And every upline I’ve tried to get interested in the idea has blown me off in no uncertain terms.
It’s almost like Governmental systems have no desire to be effective and efficient, or parsimonious with the People’s purse.
Bull’s-Eye, Mike!
Which kewpie doll off the top shelf would you like?
Mike, if your Uncle Joe still walks this green earth, would you be sure to give him my warmest regards as a fellow veteran, although not of the living hell that he would have gone though in Kora, where the cold coming down from Siberia was simply incredible.
It is only recently that I came to realize what a hell on earth Korea really was during that war, which we were told was merely a “police action,” as if those troops were over there to direct traffic and to keep people from spitting on the sidewalks and scratching their butts in public.
And to call the break-out from the Chosin Reservoir a “battle” is very much an understatement, Mike – it was a titanic struggle for survival in some incredibly dangerous terrain in the winter.
The Chinese were sent to surround the Marines and to destroy them, literally.
That they were unable to do so is a testament to the organization and courage and fighting skills of the Marines, and that is not at all some cheap hyperbole on my part.
To understand what the Korean War was really like, one should read “This Kind of War” by T.R. Fehrenbach, “The Coldest Winter” by David Halberstam, “China Crosses the Yalu” by Allen S. Whiting, and especially “U.S. Marine Operations in Korea 1950-1953, Volume III, The Chosin Reservoir Campaign” by Lynn Montross and Nicholas A. Canzona.
I used to have coffee in the morning with an old man who was a paratrooper in WWII with the 82d Airborne who had jumped into Sicily, and the Normandy, and from there fought his way across France and Germany until the war ended.
These were not “war” stories – to the contrary, they were stories of human survival in the toughest of conditions.
Would that I could have had the same opportunity with your Uncle Joe.
Give him my greatest respect, for he deserves it, having survived that hell on earth back then.