The Northampton County Board of Supervisors has approved the construction of a Royal Farms in Cape Charles.
The store will be built adjacent to the Corner Mart store at Bayview Circle.
The application was not without some controversy. Rather than being submitted by Royal Farms, it was instead submitted by the Board of Supervisors.
Former Supervisor Granville Hogg told the Mirror that he had some reservations about the new store, and noted that potential traffic issues, which already exist at the Food Lion shopping center, could be increased. Hogg has been a vocal advocate for alternative traffic patterns on that stretch of Route 13.
Hogg also found it odd that the county would be the ones to request the rezoning.
The new store is a key indicator that the economy, especially around Cape Charles is on an upward swing. Royal Farms has been looking at a store at this location for some time, but would not move forward until the traffic and demographics met the criteria.
The store is estimated to add an additional 50 to 60 new jobs to the area.
Doug Luther says
Wait a minute. I agree with Mr Hogg about the traffic issues. But 50 to 60 jobs! Are these jobs fulltime with benefits? Or is it 50 to 60 part time jobs with no benefits? I have never seen more than 4 employees working in Royal Farms at a time! Do the math for three shifts!
Another thing, the other Royal Farm is 7 miles away????
Is the broad of supervisors blowing smoke up everybody’s yazoo … again?
So. The county will be spending more money, change the building codes for part time jobs?
Not cool!
Alana says
Another Royal Farms is a horrible idea. I can’t think of one benefit.
William R Barton says
Jobs for people not as fortunate as yourself. Those people on the shore do exist or haven’t you noticed.
Margot Gorske says
WE certainly do not need another Royal Farms. Keep Cape Charles Charming!
William R Barton says
May the “We” that you are speaking of are financially secure, have a nice home and perhaps retired and enjoying life. The persons working at Royal Farms are people who have financial obligations, families to raise and bills to pay. Your desire for Cape Charles “Charming” are Trumped by the need of other to feed themselves. Besides the Royal Farms is not in the town limits. Your privilege is showing. Have some compassion for others not as secure as yourself.
Margot Gorske says
Mr. Barton; you are certainly able to speak for yourself and voice your opinion on any topic you choose. But to make comments about my lifestyle, finances, and other characteristics is a fallacy of assumptions and not a cogent response. What the shore needs are good paying jobs with benefits and a future in the company. If RF offers that, great. But that has not been the track record. Lastly, I hope they don’t replace the many small local businesses who provide coffee, deli food, pastries, and sundries. Respectfully, M. Gorske
Nioaka Marshall says
Where exactly do you get this “we” from? I don’t have anyone in my pocket. And I can certainly speak for myself! Bring on the Royal Farms!!! Don’t like it? Don’t go there. Simple as that.
William R Barton says
Does it make sense to me that they would build another Royal Farms so close to the other one? No but what do I know about their numbers? Absolutely nothing! Royal Farms doesn’t make decision about new locations without the figures that show this investment of money would be profitable. As far as part time jobs. If you need money part time is much better than no time. If I were working at the Corner Mart I’d have an application in with Royal Farms quickly.
Ray Otton says
FWIW, the Royal Farms in Parksley is about 7-8 miles from the one in Onley.
Royal Chicken Farms says
EaT mOrE ChICkeN…
Paul Plante says
Not to rain overmuch on your parade, there, Royal Chicken Farms, but the IPCC global climate crisis crowd, which is to say AOC, Greta Thunberg and the Democrat party of America, say we have to change our diet to save the world from coming to an end in 2030 in a flash of light caused by CO2 in the atmosphere raising the earth’s temperature to a pint of where all the carbon in the world will; spontaneously ignite and cause a big bang and that will be the end of us, unless we stop eating chicken, because their science says the broiler chicken is an invention of mankind to produce a quality product for the consumer, which is producing a whole lot of carbon dioxide which in turn is killing the earth and every single thing on it, if you can imagine that.
All because of broiler chickens, the invention of which upset the balance of nature and in turn caused a global chain reaction that will now cause the whole earth to go POOF! in 2030, unless we stop eating chicken right now, and it is probably already too late for that, so because of broiler chickens, we’re all pretty much screwed, especially Greta Thunberg.
In the IPCC special report on global warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius October 8th 2018 which the Congressional Democrats received straight from the hand of Greta in September of this year, it states clearly in Chapter 3, which chapter builds on findings of AR5 and assesses new scientific evidence of changes in the climate system and the associated impacts on natural and human systems, with a specific focus on the magnitude and pattern of risks linked for global warming of 1.5°C above temperatures in the pre-industrial period, it states thusly with respect to broiler chickens:
The impacts of large-scale CDR deployment could be greatly reduced if a wider portfolio of CDR options were deployed, if a holistic policy for sustainable land management were adopted, and if increased mitigation efforts were employed to strongly limit the demand for land, energy and material resources, including through lifestyle and dietary changes.
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Ah, yes, lifestyle and dietary changes, which means no more CO2-causing bar-b-cues, and no more chicken wings, which means good-bye tailgate parties at football games, and it goes rapidly downhill from there if we don’t want to world to burn to a confer in 2030, which takes us to Chapter 4, as follows:
Limiting warming to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels would require transformative systemic change, integrated with sustainable development.
Such change would require the upscaling and acceleration of the implementation of far-reaching, multilevel and cross-sectoral climate mitigation and addressing barriers.
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Getting down to brass tacks with respect to broiler chickens, it goes on to state as follows:
Shifts in dietary choices towards foods with lower emissions and requirements for land, along with reduced food loss and waste, could reduce emissions and increase adaptation options (high confidence).
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Sorry to say, but AOC and Greta and the Democrats consider chickens as foods with higher emissions, along with farting cows, of course, another food source to be phased out in favor of falafel, so they got to go and so, as a consequence, we have to rapidly wean ourselves off of eating chicken, which takes us back to Chapter 4, as follows:
Decreasing food loss and waste and changing dietary behaviour could result in mitigation and adaptation (high confidence) by reducing both emissions and pressure on land, with significant co-benefits for food security, human health and sustainable development {4.3.2, 4.4.5, 4.5.2, 4.5.3, 5.4.2}, but evidence of successful policies to modify dietary choices remains limited.
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Yes, evidence of successful policies to modify dietary choices such as chicken remain limited, so coercion it is going to have to be for the die-hard chicken eater is what it looks like is coming to me – if you eat chicken and you can’t go cold turkey, under the Democrats and AOC and Greta, you can be sure a visit to a state-run re-education camp is going to be a big part of your personal future!
Forest says
I have two questions… why another Royal Farms and why not a Walmart or even a Target… instead of Royal Farms? Just wondering…
Stuart Bell says
The people of The Eastern Shore of Virginia are simply showing their support for the beloved chicken farmers of delmarva and satisfying the locals demand for hot chicken, cancerous cigarettes, and cold beer.
Peanut Butter Falcon says
dont forget bottles of corn syrup and water, bags of salt, corn and flour, and most of all gasoline cut with alcohol.
Yeah, I can’t wait.
Nioaka Marshall says
Your racism is showing. Others may not understand your statement, but I hear it loud and clear. And if people are spending money, it’s their own business how they choose to spend it!
Stuart Bell says
Deal with it…
Peanut Butter Falcon says
Have a Coke and a Smile….
Paul Plante says
Joe Biden’s son Hunter tried the Coke and got kicked out of the Navy, as a result.
You’d a thought the dude would know better than to snort some Coke the night before a drill weekend, wouldn’t you?
William R Barton says
Your are mind reading.
Dougls Luther says
Mr Barton
You are right sir! I am financially secure, have a nice home and retired. You find it necessary to attack my comment by saying I’m showing my privilege. Mr. Barton, it is you that is show your ignorance.
I have been deny employment, promotions and had prejudiced thrown in my face. I know the meaning of disappointment. Life is tough and unfair.
I am retired now, and not under the scrutiny or retaliations by my supervisors who fear the truth.
You’re damn right I’m going to speak out. Especially when I hear that county/town supervisors are doing something I think is wrong!
It’s my right! And if you think differently we can debate the issues.
So toughen up buttercup! Or is it snowflake, dont want to hurt your feelings because I have a different view point.
I have put my life on the frontlines for 28 1/2 years. I have worked hard for what I have and I’m not going to apologize to you or anyone else on the Eastern shore for it, one bit! I have never curled up in the fetal position because of what others think. I look and move forward.
I had planned, budget and made sacrifices for what I have. If your planning is so shallow you can’t see what ahead of you. Well then I guess you will be sucking of the xxx of society until you die.
So Mr Barton, I’m asking the supervisors in this area: is this the beginning of a monopoly on the ESVA.How many businesses will be lost? What will happen to the employees that lose their jobs? What will become of the empty buildings? Are the jobs offered by Royal Farms fulltime jobs with benefits? And why did county/town supervisors reach out to Royal Farms? These are my concerns.
But Mr. Barton, you may be right again after all. Hey maybe I’ll get a job at the new gas station. And work towards that 24′ Sea Hunt I always wanted. You know, to show off my privilege side, NOT my work ethic!
Dave Moore says
Your my kind of man!
Blue Hoss says
That does not sound right coming from another man…
Publius Americanus says
The reality is far simpler, and less insidious than most here seem to think……….It’s not a Target or a Walmart applying for the site permission because….simply………they did not apply for one. Royal Farms did .
Walmart has radius zones within which they will not build another store. ESVA has one, and as per their density calculations that’s what your gonna get.
Target has income parameters. Sad to say ESVA misses that mark as well.
Hmmmm, maybe instead of a housing project, you all should have begged, demanded and protested for the State prison they were gonna put up.
Just think of all the ancillary jobs that would have fostered……..restaurants for the employees, dry cleaners, housing(and all the jobs that come with it), recreation for the employees ad infinitum.
Blue Hoss says
The Shore has been just fine for hundreds of years without any of it.
Margot Gorske says
Blue Hoss; you hit the nail on the head! We have excellent coffee houses, pastry shops, delis, and sundries providers. Numerous family/small businesses which I value for their quality, tradition, and customer service. RF; none of the above.
Paul Plante says
This is the age of being in touch with your emotions, Publius Americanus.
It is how people feel about it that is really important.
This is the age where facts no longer matter, just emotions.
And there you are, trying to interject some facts into the discussion, shame, shame!
As to the prison, it would have brought in a lot of tourism in the form of people coming to visit the inmates, which would have given a good goose to the economy of Cape Charles.
But such it is when it is, Publius Americanus, and as the song goes, people hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest, in this case, all the many benefits that prison would have brought to Cape Charles and made it a tourist destination for more than just gay weddings or a chance to career around town in a golf cart and tear up the dunes with one in fits of wild abandon!
Joseph Francis Corcoran says
The store is for motorists passing by Cape Charles and locals have better alternatives .
Royal Farms does not even offer ” top tier ” gasoline as Vallerio does .
Royal Farms restrooms between here Salisbury are typically filthy .
Let Royal Farms pay taxes to Cape Charles while you continue to go where you always have .
Merry Christmas .
Dave Moore says
Hard to argue with FACTS!
William R Barton says
I’m in one most every day. You are right, the toilets are pretty much a mess but I don’t use them. My point maybe missed in all this triggering is I see people who needs jobs and have one. They seem grateful, the coffee is good, the chicken too it’s close to home. Remember it’s Royal ! Not just Farms. Some to fight about over the holidays. Billy Strings is the best guitar player in the World.
Paul Plante says
Justin Johnson is actually quite a bit better.
Just saying.
William R Barton says
To you I’m sure he is but not to me.
Paul Plante says
And isn’t America just great because of that?
William R Barton says
Exactly! Personal taste ! One week it’s all Billy Strings the next it’s Django Reinheart. Here is someone local that is also a serious player. Goes by the name Boy Wells. Lives in Cheriton. An extremely serous player who was personal friends, and studied with Danny Gatton for many years.
Paul Plante says
Right now, I find myself kind of partial to Tut and Clarencc, to be truthful.
But probably because I am old and my heart don’t need to beat so fast as is the case with the younger folk who like Billy Strings.
And yes, I did check out the videos, and he has talent.
Does he have endurance?
Or will he come and go like Peter Frampton?
And a long time ago, I traded off a horse for a banjo, and not knowing a thing about a banjo, other than I liked its sound, I got myself a copy of Earl Scrugg’s banjo book, along with the record that went with it, and I wrote a letter to Earl to thank him for writing the book, and I got back a response that said to develop your own style, don’t try to play like Earl did, play like yourself would play, and that works for me.
I’d as soon play “Precious Memories” with one finger these days, or “Silver Threads and Golden Needles” the way Dusty Springfield sang it, or “Angel Band” as much as the fast stuff, like “Train 45” or “Foggy Mountain Breakdown.”
Such it is when it is.
And Mr. Barton, thanks for shining a light on the local talent, which proves the best pickers might not necessarily be at the Grand Old Opry in Nashville, Tennessee!
William R Barton says
Search Billy Barton Burns on YouTube. Watch the entire video. When it comes the ability to play fast age is not an issue, technique is.
Never been a fan of Framton, but he had a monster career and I can’t argue with success. He made millions!
When you learn the technique of the masters you get an insight into their playing then if you are skilled you make it your own.
Boot Lamb says
He looks like he has some sugar in his tank…
Paul Plante says
Terry Barber can pick a bit, as well.
MJM says
Well, I for one can’t see any business on Rte. 13 from quaint Cape Charles. So I don’t hear a criticism that a RoFo will harm downtown C. Charles.
Every single business owner in the U.S. knows they need to keep up with the times and improve and upgrade their business to meet the growing demands of the evolving business climate. Whether we like it or not, there is more highway use and more demands on convenience for what used to be gas stations. I have not seen The Corner Mart Corporations upgrading, making their stores bigger and brighter and providing better access for the longer tractor trailers coming around., or more parking for more customers visiting at once. So RoFo is challenging Corner Mart for the market demand C. Mart isn’t wooing. Last time I checked, that was called competition.
RoFo will provide the same kind of jobs, and schedules as C. Mart does. To expect f/t. benefits etc. from one and not the other ? We can request/complain about that all we want, but I won’t go there or waste time. The world of medical benefits and pensions left this type of industry decades ago.
I see no reason to deny RoFo the right/ability to enter their market at this location. They decide where they make money and how close their stores are. Why try to affect that ? The market does.
There is one point to all this THAT I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH ! It has been stated here that the Board of Supervisors brought in this application ? That RoFo did not go through normal procedures of doing so on their own ? THAT is a procedure that needs to be more defined and NOT PERMITTED. THAT is something that could too easily get too cozy and lead to things none of us want to think about. Supervisors need to put IN WRITING that, going forward, they will always and forever be excluded from that process, and the application process will always be presented by the incoming corporation itself.
William R Barton says
Let the Market Decide. Follow local local law procedures. That sums it up to me. Merry Christmas to all!
Peter Simpson says
Mr. Barton – I second your motion re Billy Strings being the best guitarist in the world (or certainly near the very top!!). You-Tube-him-up people!
William R Barton says
Joscho Stephan another master.
Paul Plante says
The dude has the good sense to get a real good banjo player to carry him, anyway!
William R Barton says
Billy Strings plays as well as Billy Failing his banjo player. Who works for who?