Washington – Natural immunity was six times stronger during the delta wave than vaccination, according to a new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The report published Jan. 19 analyzed COVID outcome data from New York and California, which make up about one in six of the nation’s total COVID deaths.
After delta became the main strain, vaccines alone grew weaker against the virus and natural immunity got much stronger. This could be due in large part to the fact that vaccines began wearing off around the time delta spread, according to the study.
“Importantly, infection-derived protection was greater after the highly transmissible Delta variant became predominant,” reads the report, “coinciding with early declining of vaccine-induced immunity in many persons.”
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This will have our Sorin gnashing his teeth big-time!
So getting sick with COVID offer better protection from future COVID infection then the vaccine. Ok.
You know what offers even better protection? 100% guarantee that you will never ever get covid? Shooting yourself in the head.
Despite that guaranteed level of protection, I for reasons I will keep to myself, elected to vaccinate myself. So far, no COVID .
Great comments, Sorin!
Seriously, dude!
Loved that line about shooting yourself in the head as a sure-fire way not to get COVID, maybe.
You got me in stitches, which actually is very good for the immune system, and how come I haven’t caught the COVID yet?
According to your 0perative theory about the unvaccinated, I should be long since dead, but aren’t.
You can’t get COVID from sitting at the computer and posting on cc mirror.
Note: That is the real reason you have not contracted the dreaded virus. So, it’s not the jab after all:-)
“That is the real reason you have not contracted the dreaded virus. So, it’s not the jab after all:-)”
Unlike Paul, I’m not spending all my time posting on CCM. The reason I didn’t get COVID is because I’m vaccinated and I am careful. Unlike some idiots out there.
Note: You are spreading misinformation.
Sorin, seriously, you should be doing a comedy gig out in Las Vegas where you could score some real BIG BUCK$ every night telling jokes to the high rollers out there.
You’re a natural at it, being a comedian, I mean.
And out of every 24 hours, I am on the computer but a fraction of it.
Afterall, how long does it take to make a post like this to respond to you?
Less than a minute by my timer.
I haven’t caught the COVID because I follow the same medical advice given out by the good doctor Hop Sing above here about keeping my immune system strong, in large part by having a hearty laugh at your jokes in here, which I find very humorous and funny and it is good to laugh about things, Sorin, especially when you are old like me.
J&J expects more than $3 billion in Covid vaccine sales this year, Sorin.
Are you bought in?
That’s not true, Sorin and you know it!
COVID is everywhere now.
It’s become ubiquitous (found everywhere), so of course you can get COVID from sitting at the computer and posting on cc mirror, especially if you are someone who has a habit of licking the keyboard for some strange reason similar to why people lick doorknobs.
Something to do with the wiring up topside, if you know what I mean.
The reason the majority of people sitting at the computer and posting on cc mirror DO NOT catch the COVID, or more accurately, do not themselves get caught by the COVID, is because most people never were going to catch the COVID in the first place, or more accurately, be bothered by the COVID, and since you are real big on “THE SCIENCE,” which I am forced to have to admit is indeed a closely held secret of Joe Biden, Tony Fauci and the CEO’s of Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, for obvious national security reasons, the science is so sacred, here is a real honest-to-gosh science experiment for you to try at home, since you can.
Get the latest total COVID count for the U.S., which today is 74.2 million, and divide it by the total population of the United States, which is 331,893,745.
You can probably get a supercomputer to do that for you with astounding accuracy out to maybe 50 digits past the decimal point.
I don’t have a supercomputer myself, so I had to do it the old-fashioned way with long division, and after checking my math with the slide rule, I came up with about 22 percent of the U.S. population has been reported with the COVID.
Seventy-eight percent of the population do not have the COVID.
Then use your supercomputer to suss out the number of people in the U.S. with heart disease, and cancer, and kidney problems and serious psychological problems, which is about half the human population and a growing percentage of the dog population, as well, and you’re going to see who those are catching the COVID staring you right in the face.
COVID is a reaper, Sorin, like every other disease nature periodically sends around to cull the human herd size down to more manageable proportions.
Getting all freaked out about it because somebody died is stupid.
People die all the time in this country, anyway, and if you bother to check statistics, you will note that in this country, suicide is the. 10th. leading cause of death.
So why aren’t you demanding a vaccine to prevent suicides?
And given you are so into COVID NAZI-ism, here is something you are going to love, like a trip back in time to the old days over there in the Old Country.
To get into the New York State Museum now, a public building owned by the people of the state of New York, you now have to pass through a security checkpoint, and to get past that checkpoint, you have to show the guards your papers to prove that you are vaccinated, or else, you are not getting in.
The “SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS” part probably has you breathing hard now as you visualize the guards with their dogs and jackboots and cudgels and knouts and truncheons keeping the unvaccinated scum from being able to come into the presence of those who are vaccinated.
Wait til they open the concentration camps, or political re-education camps for the unvaccinated – that will be the COVID Nazi’s dream come true!
It’s not a vaccine. Stop calling it one. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.
Hey Dr Hop – you’re wrong. Your body provides immunity. This is why no one should listen to people like you, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Just because you have an opinion, it doesn’t mean its fact.
Bless Your Heart
The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine, when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.
The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.
I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.
The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.
The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.
Natural immunity implies you were infected once. How many people died on their first exposure to this virus? How over-run were the hospitals?
The report isn’t suggesting people shouldn’t be vaccinated. It shows how your body reacts. Nowhere does it say how long this natural immunity lasts.
I’m amazed at all the scientists and doctors living in Cape Charles.
Note: This probably went right over your head, but this is from a CDC report, and it only states, as does the title of the article, that natural immunity was stronger against the “VARIENTS”, such as Delta. It nowhere says anything about whether you should “CHOOSE” to get vaccinated or not. C’mon, man!
Obviously, Wayne, you don’t know your own readers. I know there was no statement about vaccinations however, there are plenty of fools here that will make the assumption natural immunity is better than the vaccine.
EARTH TO J Wheaton IN CLOUD CUCKOO LAND:
There is NO vaccine!
That Biden-esque horsepiss is NOT a vaccine.
It is a science experiment with unwitting people like you who are easily manipulated as the test subjects, or guinea pigs or lab rats, take your choice.
IF the Biden-esque horsepiss was a real vaccine, you would get a shot and become immune to COVID the way a polio vaccine makes one vaccinated with it immune to polio, so unlike this horsepiss, you won’t catch polio after getting the vaccine.
And J Wheaton, you sound like a moronic idiot with your ignorant blather about the natural immune system, which has gotten humans through God knows how many thousands of years without Pfizer and Moderna and Joe Biden and Tony Fauci, the actor who plays an infectious disease exert and chief medical advisor to a real honest-to-gosh American president to keep them safe and tucked in at night, as if the natural immune system were in reality a poor substitute for some chemical **** produced by FOR-PROFIT BIG PHARM to boost or give a real good goose to their earnings and executive bonuses and stock values.
How, J Wheaton, did your mind become so warped?
Where did your educational process go so wrong?
Or was it an indoctrination process instead?
Other than that, J Wheaton, you seem nice.
National Library of Medicine
Immune response
The immune response is how your body recognizes and defends itself against bacteria, viruses, and substances that appear foreign and harmful.
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The immune system protects the body from possibly harmful substances by recognizing and responding to antigens.
Antigens are substances (usually proteins) on the surface of cells, viruses, fungi, or bacteria.
Nonliving substances such as toxins, chemicals, drugs, and foreign particles (such as a splinter) can also be antigens.
The immune system recognizes and destroys, or tries to destroy, substances that contain antigens.
Your body’s cells have proteins that are antigens.
These include a group of antigens called HLA antigens.
Your immune system learns to see these antigens as normal and usually does not react against them.
INNATE IMMUNITY
Innate, or nonspecific, immunity is the defense system with which you were born.
It protects you against all antigens.
Innate immunity involves barriers that keep harmful materials from entering your body.
These barriers form the first line of defense in the immune response.
Examples of innate immunity include:
Cough reflex
Enzymes in tears and skin oils
Mucus, which traps bacteria and small particles
Skin
Stomach acid
Innate immunity also comes in a protein chemical form, called innate humoral immunity.
Examples include the body’s complement system and substances called interferon and interleukin-1 (which causes fever).
If an antigen gets past these barriers, it is attacked and destroyed by other parts of the immune system.
ACQUIRED IMMUNITY
Acquired immunity is immunity that develops with exposure to various antigens.
Your immune system builds a defense against that specific antigen.
In your rush to get up on your podium, it looks like you actually didn’t comprehend what I was saying. In order to get natural immunity, you have to make it through the first infection. Hey, moron how many people died? How many other people die of other diseases because the hospitals were overflowing with covid patients?
Yup. arent you the dim bulb here. Maybe you should look up the definition of vaccine, Here let me help you from the same place you pasted your information on natural immunity.
It doesn’t say anywhere that vaccines stop you from getting the disease. Vaccines are used to help your body fight off the disease. Think people should get their advice from an MD and not you. An opinion does not make a fact.
What are vaccines?
Vaccines are injections (shots), liquids, pills, or nasal sprays that you take to teach your body’s immune system to recognize and defend against harmful germs. For example, there are vaccines to protect against:
Viruses, like the ones that cause the flu and COVID-19
Bacteria, including tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis
What are the types of vaccines?
There are several types of vaccines:
Live-attenuated vaccines use a weakened form of the germ
Inactivated vaccines use a killed version of the germ
Subunit, recombinant, polysaccharide, and conjugate vaccines use only specific pieces of the germ, such as its protein, sugar, or casing
Toxoid vaccines that use a toxin (harmful product) made by the germ
mRNA vaccines use messenger RNA, which gives your cells instructions for how to make a protein (or piece of a protein) of the germ
Viral vector vaccines use genetic material, which gives your cells instructions for making a protein of the germ. These vaccines also contain a different, harmless virus that helps get the genetic material into your cells.
Vaccines work in different ways, but they all spark an immune response. The immune response is the way your body defends itself against substances it sees as foreign or harmful. These substances include germs that can cause disease.
What happens in an immune response?
There are different steps in the immune response:
When a germ invades, your body sees it as foreign
Your immune system helps your body fight off the germ
Your immune system also remembers the germ. It will attack the germ if it ever invades again. This “memory” protects you against the disease that the germ causes. This type of protection is called immunity.
What are immunization and vaccination?
Immunization is the process of becoming protected against a disease. But it can also mean the same thing as vaccination, which is getting a vaccine to become protected against a disease.
Why are vaccines important?
Vaccines are important because they protect you against many diseases. These diseases can be very serious. So getting immunity from a vaccine is safer than getting immunity by being sick with the disease. And for a few vaccines, getting vaccinated can actually give you a better immune response than getting the disease would.
But vaccines don’t just protect you. They also protect the people around you through community immunity.
What is community immunity?
Community immunity, or herd immunity, is the idea that vaccines can help keep communities healthy.
Normally, germs can travel quickly through a community and make a lot of people sick. If enough people get sick, it can lead to an outbreak. But when enough people are vaccinated against a certain disease, it’s harder for that disease to spread to others. This type of protection means that the entire community is less likely to get the disease.
Community immunity is especially important for people who can’t get certain vaccines. For example, they may not be able to get a vaccine because they have weakened immune systems. Others may be allergic to certain vaccine ingredients. And newborn babies are too young to get some vaccines. Community immunity can help to protect them all.
Are vaccines safe?
Vaccines are safe. They must go through extensive safety testing and evaluation before they are approved in the United States.
What is a vaccine schedule?
A vaccine, or immunization, schedule lists which vaccines are recommended for different groups of people. It includes who should get the vaccines, how many doses they need, and when they should get them. In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) publishes the vaccine schedule.
It’s important for both children and adults to get their vaccines according to the schedule. Following the schedule allows them to get protection from the diseases at exactly the right time.
J Wheaton, are you really Sorin with an American-sounding name?
You have the exact same knack as Sorin to reach out into9 the depths of outer space to bring back the most incredible and inane sorts of things that you then try to peddle in here as sane and rational ideas, when they are rubbish, and like Sorin, you either don’t bother to read what you post, or you are unable to.
Case in point is this from YOUR post:
What are immunization and vaccination?
Immunization is the process of becoming protected against a disease.
But it can also mean the same thing as vaccination, which is getting a vaccine to become protected against a disease.
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That’s totally contrary to this hog**** you are trying to peddle that it is really okay to take some horsepiss called a vaccine by Joe Biden, a dimwit with no medical qualifications, or any other kind for that matter, even though the horsepiss called a vaccine by Joe Biden doesn’t protect you from getting sick.
And how many people have died, you ask?
As of today, 868,000 out of 333,000,000, or a whopping .26 percent of the population.
A very small number, is it not?
So why are you hysterical?
Because Joe Biden told you to be very scared, and you are obeying his command because his is the voice of authority next to his chief medical advisor Tony Fauci, that is?
And in a hopeful sign that common sense, sanity, logic and rationality might win out in the end over the infectious mindless hysteria being spread by the perpetually petrified like yourself, this is the headline we are enjoying this morning up here to the north of you as a petty Democrat tyrant gets slapped down for being a petty Democrat tyrant:
“Judge rules Hochul’s mask mandate unconstitutional – WHEC”
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Natural immunity does not imply that you were infected once.
Natural immunity is a condition of being human.
For natural immunity to be activated, then you have to be attacked by something.
But that attack does not create natural immunity, it triggers it.
Like natural immunity to smallpox once inoculated.
To be “attacked” by a virus means you are infected. How simple are you?
And I love the distortion of history – “That’s totally contrary to this hog**** you are trying to peddle that it is really okay to take some horsepiss called a vaccine by Joe Biden, a dimwit with no medical qualifications, or any other kind for that matter, even though the horsepiss called a vaccine by Joe Biden doesn’t protect you from getting sick.”
Guess you forgot the vaccine was created during the rule of that great traitor Trump. Don’t you remember he hires the greatest people? lol
EARTH TO J Wheaton IN DEEP SPACE ORBIT AROUND THE DOG STAR:
Your signal is coming in garbled as if you are communicating some type of gibberish instead of a known language.
Did you hit your head on something?
Anyway, here is an update for you.
On earth, it is now 27 January 2022, and a peaceful transfer of power occurred in Washington, D.C. a little over a year ago on 20 January 2021, which means Donald Trump is no longer the president and hasn’t been in over a year, and so is not at all responsible in any way for the mess this Democrat idiot Joe Biden has been making of things since he took office on 20 January 2021.
As to Joe Biden’s complete ownership of this horsepiss Joe Biden wants us to believe is a vaccine, when it is far from it, I refer you to Exhibits A and B below and use Joe Biden’s support my point that this horsepiss is not Donald Trump’s and you are very wrong in saying so, which is why we think you might have hit your head on something that has you talking crazy talk like you are, not knowing what year it is and who is really the president:
EXHIBIT A:
The Washington Examiner
“Biden does not trust Trump to deliver a safe vaccine”
by Cassidy Morrison, Healthcare Reporter
September 29, 2020 10:33 PM
Vice President Biden said that he would not trust President Trump to deliver a safe and effective coronavirus vaccine during a bitter debate rife with repeated, personal attacks.
“In terms of the whole notion of a vaccine, we’re for a vaccine, but we don’t trust him at all, nor do you,” Biden said, speaking on behalf of himself and his running mate Sen. Kamala Harris.
“What we trust is a scientist.”
Biden argued that Trump has repeatedly undercut government health officials, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert.
Biden has said on the campaign trail that he would trust vaccine researchers far more than Trump’s word on different vaccine candidates’ development timelines.
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The New York Post
“Biden slammed for taking credit for COVID-19 vaccine, not thanking Trump”
By Lia Eustachewich
March 12, 2021
Critics are blasting President Biden for taking credit for the COVID-19 vaccine rollout — and failing to thank former President Donald Trump for initiating Operation Warp Speed, which produced the jab within one year.
In his first prime-time address Thursday night, Biden praised his administration for taking a “war footing” when it comes to combating the virus, assuring that every American will be eligible for a vaccine starting May 1.
Pundits like Fox News host Sean Hannity took aim at Biden for trying “to take credit for everything that Donald Trump did on COVID-19,” noting that three vaccines were already in development by the time Biden took office.
“There were already a million vaccines being administered into people’s arms every single day when Biden was sworn in, 36 million doses had already been distributed,” Hannity said.
He continued, “Joe, you want unity?”
“Why don’t you just thank Donald Trump?”
“You want us all to get along, you say.”
“No Trump, no vaccine, Joe.”
“Stop trying to take credit for something, frankly, you had nothing to do with.”
“Nothing.”
Ronna McDaniel, chair of the Republican National Committee, accused Biden of “not being straight with Americans,” including “on vaccines.”
“He is claiming Operation Warp Speed never existed,” she tweeted.
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) also blasted Biden for his remark.
“Tonight, @POTUS Biden showed no grace or appreciation for the leadership that led to Operation Warp Speed and the development of a safe and effective vaccine,” Hagerty tweeted.
Former New York Rep. Nan Hayworth (R-NY) agreed that Trump deserves all the credit.
“‘MY Administration,’ says President Biden, over and over again,” she tweeted.
“The ONLY reason he can do any of the things he’s doing for vaccines and vaccination is Operation Warp Speed.”
“The ONLY President deserving extraordinary credit here is President TRUMP!”
Conservative commentator Katie Pavlich wrote, “Biden taking credit for the vaccine is just absolutely astonishing, but not surprising.”
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By the way, as a side note, and here let me say, isn’t science just wonderful, the things it can give us and the things it can do, which is why we should all worship it and trust it implicitly, the dog psychiatrists out there who care about the mental health of America’s dogs have just come out with an informative video you would like titled “How Dogs Cry For Help: 3 Warning Signs Your Dog Is Crying For Help.”
Since you have a lot of time on your hands out there in outer space, you should look it up and study it so if your dog is crying for help, you’ll be able to recognize it for what it really is, and with respect to the mental health of a dog, that is very important.
So sick of the hysteria and bullsh1t. The stuff you people have allowed them to inject in your body will not keep you from getting SARs, period. You all have been duped. I had no idea that I walked God’s Green Earth with such mental midgets and useful idiots.
On 2/2 Hop, The CDC has to release the report on who died WITH WuFlu, and those who died OF WuFlu. You and I will be validated, and morons like JP will refuse to see that this WuFlu was about as fatal as the……..yearly flu.
JP, You my friend are TWANLOC. Enjoy your chains.