NORFOLK, Va. (AP) — Efforts to clean up the Chesapeake Bay will soon get a boost in funding.
The National Fish and Wildlife Foundation and the Environmental Protection Agency said Monday that more than $13 million in grants are being awarded to bay restoration and conservation programs.
The health of the nation’s largest estuary is improving after decades of poor health caused by pollution. But the bay still faces challenges when it comes to preventing manure and storm water from flowing into the watershed.
Some of the projects supported by the grants will focus on helping farmers and towns to continue to reduce runoff.
The states in the bay’s watershed are Delaware, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia as well as the District of Columbia.
I would think this “article” could have some more info, I assume by manure, they mean chicken manure or poop which is spread all over the farms here? What projects are supported by the grants? What monies are being used locally and for what projects specifically?
Note: This is via a press release from NMFS, which just came out last Friday. As with most grants, it will more than likely be distributed piecemeal, but none have been determined as of this publishing.
It’s amazing how easily some people are taken in by a shiny little bauble hung in front of their eyes. Ooh, $13 million in grants to save the bay. Thank you so much, Mr. Trump!!! Meanwhile, the administration’s hard work of undoing the environmental protections for the bay goes on with nary a peep from the besotted sheep. The following article will, no doubt, fall on deaf ears:
https://nyti.ms/2BbB5SW
Damn that Trump!!! Destroying our natural resources by…….wait, what? INcreaed funding? Why, that’s unpossible!!! Everyone knows Trump HATES clean water and air and ……….
It will take ten years to undo Trump’s environmental holocaust ; from dismantling The Clean Water Act to the rollback of auto emission standards . Trump has been an environmental disaster .
This is not a partisan issue ; it’s an national issue . Trump’s record is indefensible .
You and al gore are as crazy as sh1t-housed rats….WOLF! WOLF!!!!!! WOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Joseph Corcoran, good morning to you, sir!
And the best of the season!
I hope your day is starting out fantastic and stays that way!
On another note, if prior administrations before Trump (no, I am not at all a fan of his) were doing such a bang-up job of protecting the environment, then why, oh why, Joseph Corcoran, is the Hudson River to the north of you a 200-mile long Superfund site?
Why are we reading in the Post-Star up this way an article entitlled “State to EPA: Do more to clean Hudson River of PCBs” by Michael Goot on Aug. 30, 2017, where we learn as follows:
MOREAU — The state Department of Environmental Conservation on Wednesday again called on the EPA to do more to rid the Hudson River of PCBs.
The Environmental Protection Agency in June released a draft report stating that it believes the efforts to remove PCBs would restore the river’s quality to a point where the fish could safely be eaten once a week in 55 years’ time.
DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos said that time frame is not acceptable — a point that the agency is reiterating in formal comments being submitted this week to the EPA.
“We have the chance now to take the river and bring it back to where it should be,” he said Wednesday at a news conference held at the Moreau Boat Launch.
Seggos said a project to collect 1,600 sediment samples along the river should be completed by the end of the week.
He said DEC had called for sampling last year, but the EPA and GE refused and the state decided to undertake the project itself.
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Let us be clear here, Joseph Corcoran – that refusal was by Obama’s political hack/Democrat fundraiser Judith “Sweet Judy Blue-eyes” Enck, a political deal-maker Hussein had in charge of his worthless EPA up this way.
Getting back to that artricle, we havbe as follows:
Assemblywoman Carrie Woerner, D-Round Lake, said she represents several communities along the river and they are not able to benefit economically from a clean Hudson River.
Also, by not fully cleaning up the river, the toxins will just migrate out to sea.
“The EPA is willing to let the remaining cleanup be somebody else’s problem,” she said.
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Yes, they are, Joseph Corcoran, and so they were long before Trump came into office, which is something you would expect of a politically-controlled federal agency like the EPA which is headed up and controlled by party hacks, regardless of which worthless party is in control.
Getting back to reality here:
Moreau Supervisor Gardner Congdon said he recalled battling with GE to get them to clean up a sludge site in the town.
Congdon faulted the EPA for being short-sighted.
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But the EPA is not “short-sighted,” Joseph Corcoran – to the contrary, they are political stooges who do what they are told, especially by a big corporation like the GE, which is why that agency is totally worthless to us here to the north of you, which takes us back to that article as follows:
Andy Bicking, director of public policy and special projects for Scenic Hudson Inc., said as long as PCBs remain in the water, the ecosystem of the river is threatened.
More than 500 people have submitted more than 2,000 comments to the EPA on its draft findings, calling on the agency to do more to remove PCBs, according to Bicking.
“People have spoken with one voice.”
“They want the river back and they want it back in their lifetime,” he said.
“Waiting decades for recovery is not acceptable.”
Richard Webster, legal program director for Riverkeeper, said to call the EPA’s initial report bad science is an understatement.
“What we’ve got is magical thinking,” he said.
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Calling the worthless, politically-motivated EPA’s initial report bad science is an understatement, Joseph Corcoran, so how about that, now will you!
And that was on Hussein Obama’s watch, Joseph Corcoran, not Trump’s.
So let us be real clear here – no matter what president is in charge of the EPA, that worthless federal agency will remain what it is – an untrustworthy political hack-o-cracy.
And so, this is why we can’t talk policy.
The OUTRAGE gets in the way.
The Holocaust was the planned extinction of an entire religious group.
Do you really think Mr. Trump is planning a similar extinction with his environmental policies or could it be he has a different approach that you simply don’t like and not liking it makes it THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS THING EVER?
OUTRAGE in spades, Ray Otton, you have hit that nail right on the head, square as square can be.
And we can’t talk policy because policy is just so much mealy-mouth horse**** in the mouths of our various politicians, who like the GREAT PRETENDER Hussein Obama, the undisputed master of the art of getting over 0n people, otherwise known as a master snow-job (a deception or concealment of one’s real motive in an attempt to flatter or persuade) artist or con man.
We have had environmental regulations in this country since at least 1970, and that was at the demand of LOYAL AMERICANS like myself who were damn sick and tired of the environment we have to depend on to be healthy (yes, the environment does cause cancer).
In New York state, WE, THE PEOPLE voted in 1969, when I was in Viet Nam where I voted by absentee ballot, to amend ARTICLE XIV of our state Constitution, “Protection of natural resources,” in §4 to make it the policy of OUR state to conserve and protect its natural resources and the legislature, in implementing this policy, is to include adequate provision for the abatement of air and water pollution, which we had plenty of back in 1969, when that amendment was added to OUR state Constitution so OUR state could act to protect us, despite the federal government.
I can remember riding a ferry in the Hudson River where it enters New York harbor and seeing the water surface coated with floating turds.
It was disgusting and that is why real New York City people knew not to stand in the bow of a ferry boat lest you end up getting splashed by a wave and end up with a turd in your mouth like one of Groucho Marx’s cigars.
So why then, Ray Otton, in the face of that Constitutional amendment in 1970, are we reading an article in the Troy Record newspaper entitled “Rensselaer County gets an F for air quality” published Thursday, April 29, 2010 by Jessica M. Pasko, wherein is stated in relevant as follows:
In terms of short-term particle pollution, Albany County earned a grade of C, while Saratoga and Rensselaer counties received no grade in that category because of a likely lack of monitors for that type of pollution.
The state and the EPA decide where to place the monitors and the ALA report on data gathered from those.
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You come up here where I am, Ray Otton, which is now un-regulated open-pit mining country, and you will see the brown air we are being forced to have to live in, despite our Constitution, thanks to in that case, Obama’s EPA under Judith Enck keeping particulate monitors far away from the mines, so there is no official record of the fugitive dust we are forced to have to breathe.
No data – no problem!
Does that piss us off, as we watch loved ones succumb to lung cancer caused by sub-micron particles?
Your damned right it does.
So is the OUTRAGE unjustified, Ray Otton?
My point, Paul Plante, is that outrage for outrage’s sake is never justifiable.
Paul Plante, you full well know that using outrage to affect policy change is also unjustifiable.
So, Paul Plante, if you want to discuss polices that’s fine, there’s plenty of improvements that can be made in the way we go about improving our country but, Paul Plante, shouting in someone’s ear NEVER works.
Neither does repeating their names umpteen times in the conversation. It’s demeaning and a very poor debate practice.
Paul Plante.
That’s why there is such a thing as a swift kick to the ******, Ray Otton!
So as to capture their attention and get it focused on matters at hand!
And let me compliment you on how well you can spell my name!
You got it right each time!
Well done.
For that you get a gold star!
So how about that, will you?
Now, exactly which policy was it you were talking about?
Using outrage to affect policy change is also unjustifiable?
How about “(T)he history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States?”
Or, “He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers?”
And what of “He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.”
And then there is this: “He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.”
And this: “He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.”
And this: “For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States.”
And this: “For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury.”
And these:
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
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Outrage, Ray Otton, finally, finally, affecting policy change, to wit: In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.
A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
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Truth be told, without outrage, policy remains the same and no change occurs.
We have a Constitution because of outrage over the failure of the Articles of Confederation as a form of union.
In fact, pretty much everything we have in this county, including no human slavery, is as a result of outrage with what went before.
Ah the masterful carney did it again – https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/675477583/trump-epa-proposes-big-changes-to-federal-water-protections
Did you really think he cared about you or the planet? ROFLMAO
This is merely undoing a controversial decision by the previous administration that expanded the waters and wetlands subject to the Clean Water Act but Liberals want you to think it is the END OF THE WORLD. Well, at least today’s END OF THE WORLD meme. We’ll have a new one tomorrow.
FWIW, Obama’s 2015 Clean Water Rule is a textbook case of a federal overreach. It subverted state water sovereignty and jeopardized private property rights by significantly expanding federal authority, allowing the EPA to regulate nearly every stream, ditch, pond and puddle on state land and private property.
So all the rollback does is place responsibility with the individual states. Nothing wrong with that……………unless you’re a fan of big government central planning.
Say, that reminds me of the old joke:
What are the most terrifying words a citizen ever hears?
“I’m from the government and I’m here to help”.
Ray, one question: what’s the source of the water that fills Chesapeake Bay?
For those of you challenged – New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Washington DC, Maryland and Delaware. Yeah, lets put it back in the hands of the states
Yo, tokenny, dude!
How come it is that you are ignoring the Chesapeake Bay Commission here?
Are you denigrating their efforts?
Or are you just ignoring them in your zeal to have the Democrats in the House of Representatives in charge of every aspect of our lives?
The Chesapeake Bay Commission, tokenny, is a tri-state legislative body representing Maryland, Virginia and Pennsylvania created in 1980 as a bi-state commission to help Maryland and Virginia collaborate and cooperate on Chesapeake Bay management.
Pennsylvania became a member in 1985, after which time the Commission began advising each state’s general assembly on matters deemed to be of Bay-wide concern.
Why do you think they are doing that, tokenny?
Isn’t it because the national government is untrustworthy and undependable?
The Commission also serves, tokenny, as the legislative arm of the Chesapeake Bay Program, advising each of the jurisdictions represented by the Bay Program partnership.
Since its establishment, the Commission has worked to promote policy in several areas that are vital to Chesapeake Bay restoration, including nutrient reduction, fisheries management, toxics remediation, pollution prevention, habitat restoration and land management.
How about that, will you, tokenny!
They are not sitting around waiting for the inept and incompetent and untrustworthy national government to get its act together, and kudos to them for that say I!
Up here to the north of you, tokenny, after years of control by the incompetent and untrustworthy EPA under Judith Enck, a Democrat political fundraiser Hussein Obama put in charge of the EPA regional office up here, the Hudson River is still polluted with PCB’s.
And you want those clowns in charge of the Chesapeake Bay!
Getting back to the Chesapeake Bay Commission, it has 21 members from the three states, to wit:
• Five legislators each from Maryland, Virginia and Pennsylvania
• A cabinet secretary from each state who is directly responsible for managing his state’s natural resources
• One citizen representative from each state
The chairman position rotates among the three states each calendar year.
One of the Commission’s main goals is to make sure that member states’ common interests are thoroughly represented in regard to any federal government actions that may affect them.
This has become a vital part of the process of developing the Chesapeake Bay Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) and Executive Order strategies.
I’d put more faith in them, tokenny, than I would in the EPA.
How about you?
Well said Paul.
And relatively brief, I might add.
It is compassion, Ray Otton, a compassion for those among us like our fellow American tokenney, a compassion which is born out of the spirit of Republicanism that still stirs in the breasts of free Americans like myself and animates our actions as American citizens, a compassion defined by such apt synonyms as care, concern, solicitude, and tolerance, that seeks to take the benighted among us, like our poor dear friend and fellow CCM correspondent tokenny, who is not really responsible for his ignorance here, since he has been indoctrinated as so many are in America anymore, and thus cannot know the difference, never having had it presented to him before as we do in here, to enlighten them and to lift them up out of the darkness and twilight of ignorance and into the full light of day, breaking the shackles which bind their minds in the process, thus making them better American citizens in the process, which is good for themselves, their community and ultimately their nation, which happens to be ours, as well.
Let me say, Ray Otton, that you are missing a vital point here.
The EPA does not enforce regulations!
If it did, it would be a much different and better world than it is.
The EPA uses regulations as a toll gate.
Like any toll gate, enough money will get it raised, and there you go.
So regulations are a way to strongarm people into paying what are in essence bribes to have the regulations not apply to them.
And this use of regulations to force bribes is nothing new.
The Black Horse Cavalry in corrupt New York state was famous for that practice more than a hundred years ago now, and the practice was already old by then, so it is not surprising to see the political HACK-O-CRACY in charge of the political EPA playing the game today.
For those unaware of the Black Horse Cavalry, Encyclopedia.com tells us that it was the name applied to a bipartisan group of corrupt legislators in the New York State Assembly in Albany.
During the last quarter of the nineteenth century, they gained notoriety by extorting campaign funds and bribes from corporations and other institutions that did business with state government.
They usually used blackmail by introducing bills damaging to the business of corporations, bills that would be killed if sufficient payments were forthcoming.
Theodore Roosevelt was appalled by the rampant corruption when he entered the state assembly in January 1882, an experience that helped place him on the path of progressive reform.
Too bad Teddy’s reforms didn’t last for more than a few minutes on Washington. D.C. time.
May, 2015.
Your LightBringer was in office for 7 years before he even thought about these job killing rules. Why oh why didn’t he enact them earlier if he was serious about them?
Or was it just another demo-bomb tossed in the lap of the next President?
So tell me genius, if R’s want dirty air and water, where will THEY live? Are you truly so stupid and partisan that you ACTUALLY think that R’s want to pollute the planet?
Really? Is it a nice shiny helmet you wear daily?
tokenny, dude, ssssssssssss’up?
Say, while I got you on the line here, when would you say was the last time you encountered a president of the United States who wasn’t a masterful carney?
It’s got to be at least ten years ago, if not more, as I reckon time, anyway.
When it comes to masterful carneys, tokenny, Trump cannot hold a candle to Hussein Obama.
Trump looks like a rank amateur by comparison.
I’ll try this again, may be Wayne will post this one:
If WOTUS was SO Important,. why did Barry wait until May of 2016 to implement it?
Why, to screw with the next President, bien sur. Klanton did the same thing to W with particulate levels in water. The Left will do ANYTHING in their pursuit of power.
If YOU think that the Left cares about the planet, why did Bloomberg use a JET to fly in icebergs from Iceland to the Globull Werming conference? And 150 other leaders fly individually in on their own jets?
Dear Lord, you are so ignorant on the Left. Truly ignorant.
I don’t know Mike. If the roof is so important to your house, why do the builders wait until the walls are up to do it?? Who cares when it was done, it was done. Nice lame argument there
As far as the other lame argument – if he used a sailboat the ice would melt. If they jet-pooled it would probably have caused the same harm, the distance and time would have been greater. Maybe, in your mind they should have walked?
I actually built my house from the roof down tokenny, so how about that!
If you know what you are doing, and why, you can accomplish seeming miracles like that.
Most people put the walls up first and then the roof, because that is the way everybody does it, and they simply don’t question, and so, they don’t know better.
Herd instincts, tokenny!
MOOO, you know what I am saying?
Uuhhhhhhhhhhh………..FaceTime………
Derp.
But that would imply they REALLY cared, not just another globalist totalitarian power grab.
Which fellow travelers like you will supplicate themselves before cuz elitist.
Ah, yes, people, outrage!
It is as American as apple pie, as we can clearly see from “An Address to the People of the State of New-York On the Subject of the Constitution, Agreed upon at Philadelphia, The 17th of September, 1787. New-York: Printed by Samuel Loudon, Printer to the State. 1788” by John Jay, member of the New York State Convention, to wit:
From this new and wonderful system of Government (the Articles of Confederation), it has come to pass, that almost every national object of every kind, is at this day unprovided for; and other nations taking the advantage of its imbecility, are daily multiplying commercial restraints upon us.
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Imbecility, which is defined as “the quality or state of being very stupid or foolish,” or “something that is foolish or nonsensical,” is not a term of endearment – it is a term of outrage, and it is that outrage at the imbecility of our national government under the Articles of Confederation that other nations were taking advantage of that resulted in the Constitutional form of government we have today.
Without outrage at the Articles of Con federation, we would not have the form of government that we have today, and without it, we might not even have had a nation, as we can see from that address of John Jay, as follows:
Our fur trade is gone to Canada, and British garrisons keep the keys of it.
Our shipyards have almost ceased to disturb the repose of the neighborhood by the noise of the axe and hammer; and while foreign flags fly triumphantly above our highest houses, the American Stars seldom do more than shed a few feeble rays about the humble masts of river sloops and coasting schooners.
The greater part of our hardy seamen, are plowing the ocean in foreign pay; and not a few of our ingenious shipwrights are now building vessels on alien shores.
Although our increasing agriculture and industry extend and multiply our productions, yet they constantly diminish in value; and although we permit all nations to fill our country with their merchandises, yet their best markets are shut against us.
Is there an English, or a French, or a Spanish island or port in the West-Indies, to which an American vessel can carry a cargo of flour for sale?
Not one.
The Algerines exclude us from the Mediterranean, and adjacent countries; and we are neither able to purchase, nor to command the free use of those seas.
Can our little towns or larger cities consume the immense productions of our fertile country? or will they without trade be able to pay a good price for the proportion which they do consume?
The last season gave a very unequivocal answer to these questions—What numbers of fine cattle have returned from this city to the country for want of buyers?
What great quantities of salted and other provisions still lie useless in the stores?
To how much below the former price, is our corn, and wheat and flour and lumber rapidly falling?
Our debts remain undiminished, and the interest on them accumulating—our credit abroad is nearly extinguished, and at home unrestored—they who had money have sent it beyond the reach of our laws, and scarcely any man can borrow of his neighbor.
Nay, does not experience also tell us, that it is as difficult to pay as to borrow?
That even our houses and lands cannot command money—that law suits and usurious contracts abound—that our farms sell on executions for less than half their value, and that distress in various forms, and in various ways, is approaching fast to the doors of our best citizens.
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Yes, people, outrage – without it, change will never occur.