Virginia Beach, VA – On Wednesday, October 9th Democratic Candidate for Virginia’s Second Congressional District Missy Cotter Smasal, held a round table with Planned Parenthood Advocates of Virginia, several local medical providers, and voters personally impacted by reproductive healthcare restrictions to discuss abortion access since the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the importance of electing pro-abortion rights champions to Congress who will work to protect abortion nationwide.
Paul R. Plante says
I. DOBBS TOOK NOTHING FROM WOMEN IN AMERICA AND GAVE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BACK TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA!
As an independent American citizen who is not a Democrat, nor a Republican, and Viet Nam combat veteran now in his seventies, I am so sick and tired of hearing nothing but an endless stream of lies, half-truths, and misinformation coming at us from the Democrats, Joe Biden, Karmela Harris, HILLARY Clinton and Missy, and their pet poodles and enablers and lickspittles in the main-stream and media legacy concerning this subject of abortion, which is an issue that I have been familiar with since the late-1950s or early-1960s, when there was a lot of discussion about bringing abortion out from the back alleys where famous “coat hanger” abortions were destroying the lives of American women, or killing them.
Like guns, abortion exists, and has existed probably since there have been people on the face of the earth, precisely because the earth itself provides medical plants that induce abortion, something native women in this nation were well aware of before the white man came to these shores back in the 1500s or earlier.
In fact, going back in time to the ancient Greeks, circa 570 – c. 495 BC, Aristotle argued that abortion was acceptable for the good of the state, which cuts across the bow of the arguments of the Democrats and Karmela Harris on Meet the Press on 11 September 2022 that “Everything is on the line when you think about the millions of women and people in America who care about them, who understand the significance of protecting a woman’s right to make decisions about her own body instead of her government telling her what to do.”
Which is pure bull**** because the government is NOT telling women what to do – to the contrary, the PEOPLE, who are “THE GOVERNMENT” in this country, are telling women and Karmela Harris and Missy what they are not free to do, which is to kill an unborn child.
That, people, is what Dobbs gave back to the AMERICAN PEOPLE, which is that right, state by state by state, to defend and protect the unborn from being murdered, for profit, or convenience, to wit:
Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives.
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That, people, is AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC PROCESS in action, which is what the Supreme Court is supposed to be defending and protecting – OUR RIGHT to be a self-governing people, and in Dobbs, they did exactly that!
So why are the Democrats so upset then?
Going back to ancient Greece and Aristotle, he argued that when a state becomes overpopulated, “let abortion be procured before life and sense have begun.”
And there, people, is THE ISSUE before us – WHEN have life and sense begun in the womb?
Roe said after the first trimester.
Dobbs says after the first trimester.
So, think about it, then, people, if Dobbs allows abortions in the first thirteen weeks of pregnancy, which is what Roe allowed, what has the Supreme Court taken away from the women of America with their Dobbs decision?
Besides exactly nothing!
Craig C Felker says
It’s not your garden-variety Ds who are upset. It is rather Progressive Ds, the latest iteration of Marxists, who see the return of power to the “people” (the states) undermining the power of the State.
Looking back to the origins of the Progressive movement in the early 20th C, while responsible for improvements in working conditions, women’s sufferage, etc., Progressives were also responsible for industrializing abortion, not to control “the” population, but rather to control certain demographics of the population, such as the poor, persons with mental/intellectual disabilities, etc. How, they would argue, can a society “progress,” if it has to take care of people with dependencies. Consequently, you see the establishment of Planned Parenthood in 1916, in addition to states establishing policies which permitted forced sterilization of persons deemed mentally unfit. In fact, the US Supreme court, led by former president, and at the time chief justice William Howard Taft, upheld the consitutionality of the Virginia Sterilization Act of 1924. It was not rescinded until 1974.
You can also throw in eugenics as espoused by early American Progressives. It pre-dates the rise of national socialism.
The US defeated fascism and Soviet communism. Defeating Progressivism and Islamism will be a tougher nut to crack, since both ideologies have been insinuated into American society.
Paul R. Plante says
And who can argue with any of that!
Wee Willie Winkie says
Scratch a Liberal and you will find a Fascist.
Paul R. Plante says
II. THE ABORTION LIES OF KAMALA HARRIS ON MEET THE PRESS ARE EVEN MORE STUPID, UNINFORMED AND IGNORANT THAN THOSE OF JOE BIDEN AND SHE IS A FORMER PROSECUTOR WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
Yes, people, DEMOCRAT Kamala Harris sounded like the world’s most ignorant person with regard to the subject of abortion on Meet the Press on September 11, 2022, 1:05 PM EDT, where the show started as follows:
CHUCK TODD: This Sunday: My interview with Vice President Kamala Harris.
CHUCK TODD: On the rightward shift of the Supreme Court:
VICE PRES. KAMALA HARRIS: I think this is an activist court.
CHUCK TODD: And its abortion decision:
VICE PRES. KAMALA HARRIS: It is not right that we take a constitutional right from the women of America and deprive them of the ability to make decisions about their own body.
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And there she is, being real stupid right out of the gate and talking like an idiot, because NO constitutional right was taken from women, and nobody has deprived them of the ability to make decisions about their own body, and as she has previously served as the attorney general of California from 2011 to 2017, she is the one person in the Biden regime who should know better, OR you would be led to believe that, anyway, although these days, the fact that somebody was elected as an attorney general doesn’t mean anything at all.
As to the supposed “constitutional right” which doesn’t exist, and didn’t exist before Dobbs was decided, in concurring in Roe v. Wade, Mr. Chief Justice Burger of the United States Supreme Court stated in plain and simple language that even a slack-wit lawyer like Kamala Harris should have been able to comprehend and understand, presuming that she ever bothered in the first place to exert herself to read it, as follows:
Plainly, the Court today rejects any claim that the Constitution requires abortions on demand.
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And seriously, people, how many years of law school does it require to be able to read and understand what that sentence is saying?
Is the phrase “rejects any claim that the Constitution requires abortions on demand” really that hard to understand or comprehend that a trained lawyer like Kamala Harris would be stumped or mystified or stymied by it, especially where the word “reject” is taken to mean “to refuse to accept, use, or believe something?”
And Dobbs DOES NOT deprive women of the ability to make decisions about their own body, and it is so stupid and tedious of Kamala Harris to state or imply that it does.
First of all, Dobbs only involved the constitutionality of the state of Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act, which act provides as follows:
“[e]xcept in a medical emergency or in the case of a severe fetal abnormality, a person shall not intentionally or knowingly perform . . . or induce an abortion of an unborn human being if the probable gestational age of the unborn human being has been determined to be greater than fifteen (15) weeks.”
A PERSON SHALL NOT PERFORM OR INDUCE AN ABORTION AFTER FIFTEEN WEEKS!
Fifteen weeks is roughly THREE MONTHS, or what is known as the first trimester, the earliest phase of pregnancy which starts on the first day of one’s last period and lasts until the end of the 13th week.
So how is that different than what Roe v. Wade provided for?
And the answer is that it is no different at all, as we see from Roe v. Wade, to wit:
For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation MUST be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman’s attending physician.
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Dobbs does nothing to change that, because that was never an issue in Dobbs.
The challenge in Dobbs was specifically to Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act.
That challenge was made by the Jackson Women’s Health Organization, an abortion clinic, and one of its doctors.
They challenged the Act in Federal District Court, alleging that it violated this Court’s precedents establishing a constitutional right to abortion, in particular Roe v. Wade, 410 U. S. 113, and Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U. S. 833.
And having failed to logically and rationally prove their points in their briefs to the Supreme Court, they lost that argument.
In plain language, Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act was held to NOT VIOLATE Roe v. Wade, or Casey.
Those people, are the facts.
If you don’t believe me, read the cases for yourself, and you will see those same words, given that I cut and pasted them straight from those decisions.
And then ask yourself this important question:
WHY IS KAMALA HARRIS TELLING US THESE EGREGIOUS LIES JUST BEFORE THE NOVEMBER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHY IS KAMALA HARRIS LYING TO US ABOUT ANTHING, AND ESPECIALLY SUCH AN EMOTIONAL SUBJECT AS ABORTION?
Think about it, people, while there is still time!
Paul R. Plante says
III. NO, PEOPLE, THE RIGHT-WINGERS AND MAGA REPUBLICANS DID NOT GET ROE v WADE OVERTURNED AND IT IS STUPID IN THE EXTREME TO SAY THEY DID!
To see exactly what I am talking about here, let’s go to a USA TODAY article titled “Remind me why the Biden administration is in court fighting publication of the ERA?” by Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney and an opinion writer with USA TODAY and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board, on 1 October 2022, where we have this very stupid and ridiculous statement from her to consider, to wit:
Now, lawmakers and right-wing organizations are pushing back against the ERA because they worry that, if published, it would again consecrate women’s rights to abortion care after they got Roe v. Wade overturned.
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Lawmakers and right-wing organizations were the ones who got Roe v. Wade overturned?
That’s daft, people, and it serves to demonstrate just how stupid this New York licensed attorney really is, and how ignorant of how the law works in this country she really is, because right-wing organizations had absolutely nothing to do with getting Roe v. Wade overruled.
And according to the Court, Roe v. Wade was overruled because it was BAD LAW and a case of JUDICIAL OVERREACH, but that is a totally separate matter.
Had not someone with actual standing to sue filed the lawsuit in the first place, Roe v. Wade never would have been challenged, or overruled, because despite this toxic and misleading rhetoric about MAGA Republicans stealing an alleged “Constitutional right” from women that they never had in the first place, MAGA Republicans had no standing to bring the matter before the Supreme Court, NOR DID THEY.
Roe v. Wade was overruled because of the state of Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act, which act provides that “except in a medical emergency or in the case of a severe fetal abnormality, a person shall not intentionally or knowingly perform . . . or induce an abortion of an unborn human being if the probable gestational age of the unborn human being has been determined to be greater than fifteen (15) weeks.”
The lawsuit that resulted in Roe V. Wade was not brought by MAGA Republicans or other right-wingers to challenge that act.
The challenge to the act was made by the Jackson Women’s Health Organization, an abortion clinic, and one of its doctors, who challenged the Act in Federal District Court, alleging that it violated this Court’s precedents establishing a constitutional right to abortion, in particular Roe v. Wade, 410 U. S. 113, and Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U. S. 833.
They did that, made that court challenge, of their own volition.
No MAGA Republican or other right winger held a gun to their heads and made them file a losing lawsuit so the MAGA Republicans could steal an alleged Constitutional right from women in order to give the Democrats an emotional issue to make hay of going into the November 2024 presidential election.
And when that lawsuit was filed, it went not to the Supreme Court, but to a District Court which granted summary judgment in favor of respondents and permanently enjoined enforcement of the Act, reasoning that Mississippi’s 15-week restriction on abortion violates this Court’s cases forbidding States to ban abortion pre-viability.
So that is where this whole thing began, and it had nothing to do with MAGA Republicans, at all.
That is one of the toxic great big lies of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Democrat Missy Cotter Samsal we are confronting in here, courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror, as we head into November, where the fate of OUR Republic and OUR Constitution are going to be determined one way, or the other.
Going back to the lawsuit, after the decision by the District Court, it next went to the Fifth Circuit, which affirmed the District Court ruling.
Only then did it finally move to the Supreme Court, and before the Supreme Court, the petitioners, those who were originally sued, defended the Act on the grounds that Roe and Casey were wrongly decided and that the Act is constitutional because it satisfies rational-basis review.
NOWHERE ARE MAGA REPUBLICANS INVOLVED IN ANY OF THAT, AND IT IS BULL**** FOR JOE BIDEN OR ANYONE ELSE TO SAY THEY WERE!
And what was the result of all that?
Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives.
In other words, people it was DEMOCRACY that prevailed, not MAGA Republicans.
The decision says nothing about MAGA Republicans having any role to play here.
Its language is very specific, to wit:
THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE ABORTION IS RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE AND THER ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES!
So stop lying to us, Joe Biden and the Democrats, by telling us otherwise.
The authority to regulate abortion was not handed over to MAGA Republicans or any other right wing group.
That authority was returned to WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and OUR elected representatives.
So don’t be fooled, people, by these GREAT BIG TOXIC DEMOCRAT LIES.
Be better than that for the sake of the nation and our collective future.