September 26, 2025

2 thoughts on “History Notes this week Jan 6th

  1. I feel I am learning more history from these weekly postings than I did in my college Western Civ course. Thanks Wayne!

  2. I feel the same way.

    Except to me, this is like a glimpse of the classical education many of the so-called “founding fathers” received back when.

    Their knowledge of the history of the world and human events far outstrips that of so many Americans today.

    As to the Guelphs, a name I haven’t heard much of lately, the website Florence Inferno tells us they were a rival party to the Ghibellines in medieval Germany and Italy that supported the papal party and the Holy Roman emperors respectively.

    But in Italy, the divisions became more a function of rivalries between cities and even local families, and how much like America today that sounds.

    In a letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 20 June 1815, he states as follows concerning the Guelphs:

    The question before the human race is, Whether the God of nature Shall govern the World by his own laws, or Whether Priests and Kings shall rule it by fictitious Miracles?

    Or, in other Words, whether Authority is originally in the People? or whether it has descended for 1800 years in a succession of Popes and Bishops, or brought down from Heaven by the holy Ghost in the form of a Dove, in a Phyal of holy Oil?

    Who shall take the side of God and Nature?

    Brach-mans,? Mandarins? Druids? or Tecumseh and his Brother the Prophet? or Shall We become Disciples of the Phylosophers?

    And who are the Phylosophers?

    Frederick? Voltaire? Rousseau? Buffon? Diderot? or Condorcet?

    These Phylosophers have shewn themselves as incapable of governing mankind as the Bourbons or the Guelphs.

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    He also makes mention of the Guelphs in his encyclopedic “A defence of the constitutions of government of the United States of America, against the attack of M. Turgot in his Letter to Dr. Price,” dated the twenty-second day of March, 1778, as follows:

    The most powerful families in Florence, in 1215, were the Boundelmonti and the Uberti ; and next to them the Amadei and Donati : a quarrel happened about a lady, and Messer Boundelmonti was killed.

    This murder divided the whole city, one part of it siding with the Boundelmonti, and the other with the Uberti ; and as both of the families were powerful in alliances, castles, and adherents, the quarrel continued many years, till the reign of the emperor Frederick the Second, who being likewise king of Naples, and desirous to strengthen himself against the church, and establish his interest more securely in Tuscany, joined the Uberti, who by his assistance drove the Boundelmonti out of Florence, and thus that city became divided, as all the rest of Italy was before, into the two factions of Guelphs and Ghibellines; the former of which denominated the adherents of the pope, and the latter latter those of the emperor: Guelph being the name of the general of the first army for the church in this controversy, and Ghibelline that of the place of the birth of the general who commanded for the emperor, about 1139.

    The Guelphs, thus driven cut of the city, retired into the valley, which lies higher up the Arno, where their strong places and dependencies lay, and defended themselves as well as they could: but when Frederick died, the neutral people in the city endeavoured to re-unite it, and prevailed upon the Guelphs to forget the disgrace they had suffered, and return; and the Ghibellines to dismiss their animosities and receive them.

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    Sounds like the Republicans and Democrats in this country today.

    In one of his footnotes, John Adams also had this to say:

    Ghibellines, have arisen many kings and emperors, as the third, fourth, and fifth Henry.

    Of the other, viz. the Guelphs, there had been for many years famous dukes, who contending for power and for credit with the emperors, had very often disturbed the tranquillity of the state.

    Under the reign of Henry the Fifth these two families happily united in Alliance, because Fideric duke of Suavia, married Judith, daughter of Henry duke of Bavaria, and sister of Guelph the Sixth, who was at that time the head of the house of Altdorp.

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    As to their origins, the Florence Inferno tells us the following:

    The designations Guelphs and Ghibellines originated in the 12th century from the names of rival German houses in their struggle for the title of Holy Roman Emperor.

    The election of Lothair II (c. 1070–1137), German king from 1125 and Holy Roman emperor from 1133, was favored by the pope and opposed by the Hohenstaufen family of princes.

    This was the start of the feud between the house of Welf (Guelph), the followers of the dukes of Saxony and Bavaria, and the house of the lords of Hohenstaufen, whose castle at Waiblingen (near present-day Stuttgart) lent the Ghibellines their name.

    Eventually, the Guelph-Ghibelline conflict gave way to a civil war that was finally settled in 1152 by the election of Frederick I (Barbarossa), the son of a Hohenstaufen father and a Welf mother (When Henry the Lion, a Welf, incurred the disfavor of the Holy Roman emperor Frederick Barbarossa, a Waiblingen, in 1180, his lands were forfeited to a duke of the Wittelsbach family, a dynasty that was to dominate Bavarian history until the end of World War I.).

    It was during the reign of the Hohenstaufen emperor Frederick I Barbarossa (1152–90) that the terms Guelf and Ghibelline acquired significance in Italy, as that emperor tried to reassert imperial authority over northern Italy by force of arms.

    Frederick’s military expeditions were opposed not only by the Lombard and Tuscan communes, who wished to preserve their autonomy within the empire, but also by the newly elected (1159) pope Alexander III.

    Frederick’s attempts to gain control over Italy thus split the peninsula between those who sought to enhance their powers and prerogatives by siding with the emperor and those (including the popes) who opposed any imperial interference.

    Frederick’s supporters became known as Ghibellines, while the Lombard League (the medieval alliance formed in 1167 and supported by the pope) and its allies became known as Guelphs.

    After being defeated in the Battle of Legnano in 1176, Frederick recognized the full autonomy of the cities of the Lombard League.

    During the following struggles between the Hohenstaufen emperor Frederick II (who reigned between 1220–50), nephew of Frederick Barbarossa, and the popes, the Italian parties took on their characteristic names of Guelph and Ghibelline (beginning in Florence) and contributed to intensifying antagonisms within and among the Italian cities.

    Both Frederick II and the Pope wanted universal power.

    The Guelphs sided with the Church, while the Ghibellines sided with the Empire.

    Guelphs tended to come from wealthy mercantile families, whereas Ghibellines were predominantly those whose wealth was based on agricultural estates.

    Guelph cities tended to be in areas where the Emperor was more of a threat to local interests than the Pope, and Ghibelline cities tended to be in areas where the enlargement of the Papal States was the more immediate threat.

    The struggle between these two forces gave rise to a series of conflicts and alliances among Italian cities, since some sided with the emperor and others with the Pope.

    The same city often changed sides, depending on who took power.

    Members of the opposing faction were also often exiled after a revolution of power, just like Dante.

    In fact this rivalry was especially ferocious in Florence, where the Guelfs were exiled twice (1248 and 1260) before the invading Charles of Anjou ended Ghibelline domination in 1266.

    Sometimes, there could also be different Guelf and Ghibelline factions in the same city.

    For example, in Florence after the fall of the Ghibellines, the Guelphs divided into the White Guelphs and Black Guelphs.

    Dante belonged to the White Guelphs.

    In general, the Guelphs were more often victorious.

    Also, in 1266, the Capetian House of Anjou, which belonged to the Guelph party, took the crown of Sicily.

    In any case, Guelph and Ghibelline membership quickly changed from its original meaning and in each city often pointed to a choice according to specific economic interests.

    In the middle of the fourteenth century, the jurist Bartolo da Sassoferrato wrote an essay on this issue and said that the two labels were no longer linked to the pope and the emperor so that even an opponent of the Church could define himself as a Guelph and vice versa.

    Also, the same person could define himself as a Guelph in one place and as a Ghibelline in another.

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    As I say, it so much sounds like the Democrats and Republicans in America today it isn’t funny.

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