It was confirmed Friday that interim Town Manager Bob Panek has resigned.
According to sources from the Town, while Panek was allowed to resign, he would have been terminated otherwise. Panek attempted to give a 30-day notice, but that was rejected. The town told him his resignation was immediate.
Bob Panek (Cape Charles Wave photo)
Town sources told the Mirror that, while there were other factors, the resignation was due to a case of basic insubordination.
In May, Panek, who was acting as town manager after the resignation of Brent Manuel, brought a proposal from the Bay Creek fitness club that would have allowed town employees to join the club for a mere $90 per month. Panek apparently negotiated the deal on his own. The town would have to budget and pay the club $5000 for employees to use this benefit.
Panek next had the proposal put on the agenda for the next Town Council Regular Meeting. Panek presented the proposal at the meeting, however, no motion was made to approve it, and it died there.
Town sources told the Mirror that they found the idea ludicrous, given that they were still having trouble balancing the budget.
Town sources told the Mirror that Panek next went back to the fitness club and gave them the $5000 anyway, presumably so he could join himself. The Mayor and other members of council were furious and brought Panek in to explain himself. He resigned soon after. Town sources told the Mirror that in an attempt to keep his job, Panek listed a litany of things ‘he has done for the town’, which sources say elicited a series of laughs.
This is not the first time Panek has found himself embroiled in controversy. A Defense Week article from 2002 found that Panek was actively involved in a scam to bilk the Navy retirement system which allowed for some to retire before their time and start collecting pensions. The story was based on a 2000 Navy Inspector General (IG) report on the “manipulation of the federal retirement system.” The report called the scam a case of senior Navy executives “taking care of their own.”
The Town has told the Mirror that, even as Mr. Panek has tendered his resignation as interim town manager/assistant town manager, he will continue working with the town as a contractor managing capital projects.
I believe that in 2015, I attended a town council meeting and suggested Bob Panek resign due to trust being broken after many were made aware of his “retirement scam”. I was ignored. As long as the little fella was being taken to the cleaners, Bob Panek was okie dokie. Then….. He did something his buddies did not want and….. Bam… He is out. Good ole boy network at its finest. If Bob Panek used funds he was specifically told not to spend, what else might be uncovered if a closer look is taken?
Someone in Bay Creek is shredding documents this weekend, no doubt!
So let me get this straight the town is going to keep Bob Panek on as a contractor managing capital projects? WHY? As project manager how much money is Bob Panek going to make? From what I understand project managers can collect up to 10%. If the town now actually believes what we as Old School Cape Charles told them 10 years ago why are they letting Bob Panek stay? Old School Cape Charles brought his little scheme at the Pentagon to light and again no one thought anything of it because he was not prosecuted. I was at a Board of Supervisors meeting when it was brought to the board’s attention that Katie Nunez had given the PSA, which by the way by Panek was in charge of, $120,000.00!!! The Board of Supervisors had no idea that the money had already changed hands.
Is Bob Panek getting 10% of what the town spends on all of the projects he has been in charge of?
Why doesn’t the town planner take over as project manager? The town of Cape Charles does not need Bob Panek in any way, shape ,or form. Does anyone actually know the total indebtedness of the town? I seriously doubt it. They are spending more money then they have every year. Many years ago I spoke with people at each town that is Incorporated on the Eastern Shore. In every case I found that towns bigger than Cape Charles have far less employees. I brought this to the town’s attention and what did they do? They hired more employees that’s what they did! The town of Cape Charles is being run like they are printing money in the basement! Follow the money trail and you will find out why Bob Panek wants to stay on as project manager. Years ago Dora Sullivan was so impressed with “Bob Panek’s magic pen”. GUESS THE TOWN ISN’T SO IMPRESSED NOW! Everything he does is to benefit himself not the town. Bob Panek is a scheming, underhanded snake in the grass and he needs to GO NOW!!!
So Karen Jolly Davis figured out a way for the beach committee to get money from the multi-use trail project? Sounds like Ms Davis is following in Bob Panek’s footsteps! Nobody can ever figure out where all the money goes and it is being diverted from one fund to the other all the time! The town is constantly borrowing money and moving it around. I wish someone would try and find out how heavily the town is in debt.
Loving life in Seaview♡
I did not have sexual relations with that money. (In my Bill Clinton voice)
Seems like the Town Council and Current and Past Mayors have a lot of explaining to do to the Taxpayers. Bob has been a hard charger who gets things done. I didn’t always agree with him but he stepped up to the plate when others stood on the sidelines. He did the will of the council whether you like him or not. He did a lot of good for the town. But if you want blame someone look no further than your elected officials. The buck stops there. I wonder if any of them will respond or will they hide behind their positions. Only time will tell. Let those without sin cast the first stone.
David….. have you been drinking the Cape Charles water?
NO Debbie. I have a great water filtration system. Just saying you should not pile on Bob. There is possibly more here than meets the eye. Why hasn’t the Mirror reported on any of the reactions from the newly elected town officials about this issue. Will their tenure be business as usual? Apparently, Shelley Gorman resigned from the Community Enhancement Board around the same time that Bob resigned and then rescinded her resignation. What is the story there? The silence from the Community Enhancement Board and the Town Council is deafening! Where is the investigative reporting? Time for the Mirror to step up their game.
David…..Bob Panek HOT CAUGHT! END. OF. STORY!!!!
What goes on in Cape Charles would make former Chicago mayor Richard Daley wince.
So much corruption in such a small town. So much money in someone’s pocket. AUDIT! AUDIT! AUDIT!
Typical of any large or small town run by Liberals.
Nice rundown on Mr. Panek’s past exploits although a lot was left unwritten. For example, believe it or not, Bob Panek used to be in charge of the election debates. He was the only one to see the questions provided from the audience on note cards, and he decided which questions should be asked and which ones not — and to which candidates. When it comes to contracts, Bob Panek reviewed contracts that should have been sealed bids. I have personal experience with this. When I submitted a low bid to administer the website Cape Charles by the Bay, to my surprise I won the contract. Only later did I realize that Bob Panek had decided to punish the previous contractor and used me for a subterfuge. When I submitted my bill to the town it was ignored and I was never paid a penny despite my signed contract stipulating that I was to be paid until the town sent me a registered letter of termination (which the town forgot to do until I pointed it out). But that was the smallest of potatoes compared to the Old School deal. One small additional point, typical for that deal: Contrary to town regulations, Mr. Panek directed that no water bill be sent to the developer for a couple of years. And to this day the water bills for the Old School apartments are averaged, whereas in other properties (such as the duplex I owned) you pay the full month’s charge for each unit whether you use water or not. All of this was under Mr. Panek’s direction. There of course is much much more. Why did the town harbor master, Smitty Dize, quit? Bob Panek. Why did Smitty then run for mayor? Anyone wish to guess? And why, after all these years, did Panek suddenly resign? Connect the dots.
Panek managed the town into the ground. Dize should send him packin with no more contracts. Panek out the door, Dora out the door, there’s hope for Cape Charles.
WOW!
I live in what I still believe is the most corrupt town in the United States of America, a dubious distinction indeed, with well documented, unpunished endemic public corruption involving the laundering of fraudulent instruments in the form of “permits” going back to 1975, something the town leaders up here are proud of as a political accomplishment they boast about, as they strut through town in their pride, as if Dutch Burgomeisters from a by-gone age; but reading though these comments about Cape Charles, I have to admit that it is a definite contender for the title, which has my faith in my town being the most corrupt now somewhat wavering.
Mr. Stuart Bell summed the Cape Charles problem up correctly. Unfortunately, the (mostly) carpet-bagger voters of the town keep electing left wing elitists to positions of authority. It’s a world in which a few rule the many, thinking they are superior in their thinking . Laws , codes, and rules are arbitrarily enforced depending on how much favor the citizen or business has with the enforcers. When one of the elite’s incompetence or corruption is accidentally exposed, basically it’s crickets chirping. Other than being reported here, nothing is done. It’s all about favoritism. Sadly no one seems to be paying any attention to the more pressing work needed in town. The water continues to be a big problem (the debacle of the treatment plant is worthy of a major lawsuit), there are too few public restrooms, too few restaurants, no food markets, etc etc etc. After all the major advertising done to promote Cape Charles as a tourist destination, there continues to be little effort to provide infrastructure. This truth will come home to roost eventually, as word of mouth does it job. The citizens should definitely demand a major audit and clean house accordingly.
Bottom line the corrupt minority have come into the area to exploit it on the pretense and lies that they are here to improve the Shore. To help bring jobs and money for the citizens. It’s been obvious that their drive is themselves and money in their pocket. They’re destroying it right before our eyes. I’m sure there is more corruption to be found, and Panek’s demise may be the beginning the exposure. It’s time the people of the Eastern Shore took back their home. By the way, plenty of infrastructure in Cape Charles. That’s ruining the town as it is.
They can’t take it back. They are wrapped tightly in the chains of political correctness.
The town of Cape Charles needs to divest itself totally of Mr. Panek, and take away his ‘keys’ to any town information, and any committees. Next they need to open an independent audit into just exactly what he has done over the years, and what under the table practices he did to the town. This needs to be investigated, if the town is to save face and move forward. By the way is he paying the town back the $5000 he gave to Bay Creek?
Things to keep away from liberals:
1. Liquor
2. Firearms
3. Women
4. Positions of power
5. Voters
6. Podiums with microphones
7. Smartphones
8. Voting booths
9. email
10. Hammers
11. Children, and our children’s children
12. Slush funds
13. Foundations
14. Uranium
15. Russians
16. Tarmacs
17. Cigars
18. Tax revenue
19. Education
20. Local city council
21. Interns
22. Schools and colleges
23. Bleach-bit, or cloth
24. Oval Office
25. Fake news camera’s….
26. Illegal Aliens (edit)
27. The United States Constitution
Mr. Bell, pay very close attention to what I am about to explain to you. Women, at least in this country, have been emancipated. We are not property, to be included in a list of objects to be “kept away” from anyone. Moreover, no group of men could be more misogynist than Republicans, lead by their Pussy-grabber In Chief. Imagine a STFU emoji inserted here.
I love you Susan
Well, Bless Your Heart.
Maybe you two should get a room.
Watch your Dress…..Your Slip is showing.
You like bullying and trying to intimidate women? You think you’re cool trying to Weinstein us? Men who attack women are pathetic cowards. Even your pals here are not defending you Sad Little Stu.
Sounds like she needs her mouth washed out with soap. I hate to hear or read a female use the word ‘f&ck”. She has no respect for herself.
Tim, we fortunately have evolved beyond men being able to brutalize woman in the way you describe. Sorry that women using profanity hurts your delicate sensibilities, but it is you who have no respect for women.
Dear Susan, I think we all feel your pain here, and we empathize with you in your grief over the trajectory this country has gone in over these last so many years, but in your anguish, you are forgetting that when Trump was doing all that grabbing, he was actually a DEMOCRAT.
And Susan, while his conduct was obviously pig-like, he was actually small potatoes when it comes to people like DEMOCRAT money man Harvey Weinstein, who was a big friend of Hillary Clinton, who just snubbed gay actress Cynthia Nixon at the Democrat Love-Fest on Long Island recently, where Hillary threw her support behind Young Andy Cuomo.
Certainly, Susan, you cannot already have forgotten that New York Times article by Amy Chozick and Jonathan Martin on 3 September 2016, where we were told about Hillary partying up with Harvey at a Long Island celebrity bash, to wit:
At a private fund-raiser Tuesday night at a waterfront Hamptons estate, Hillary Clinton danced alongside Jimmy Buffett, Jon Bon Jovi and Paul McCartney, and joined in a singalong finale to “Hey Jude.”
“I stand between you and the apocalypse,” a confident Mrs. Clinton declared to laughs, exhibiting a flash of self-awareness and humor to a crowd that included Calvin Klein and Harvey Weinstein and for whom the prospect of a Donald J. Trump presidency is dire.
In the last two weeks of August, Mrs. Clinton raked in roughly $50 million at 22 fund-raising events, averaging around $150,000 an hour, according to a New York Times tally.
And while Mrs. Clinton has faced criticism for her failure to hold a news conference for months, she has fielded hundreds of questions from the ultrarich in places like the Hamptons, Martha’s Vineyard, Beverly Hills and Silicon Valley.
“It’s the old adage, you go to where the money is,” said Jay S. Jacobs, a prominent New York Democrat.
Mrs. Clinton raised about $143 million in August, the campaign’s best month yet.
Mrs. Clinton’s aides have gone to great lengths to project an image of her as down-to-earth and attuned to the challenges of what she likes to call “the struggling and the striving.”
If she feels most at ease around millionaires, within the gilded bubble, it is in part because they are some of her most intimate friends.
The campaign’s finance team is led by Dennis Cheng, previously the chief fund-raiser for the Clinton Foundation, and it employs a couple dozen staff members.
Mr. Cheng, who attends the events with Mrs. Clinton, offers donors a number of contribution options that provide them and their families varying levels of access to Mrs. Clinton.
A family photo with Mrs. Clinton cost $10,000, according to attendees.
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So what was up with that, Susan?
Harvey Weinstein made Trump look like a rank amateur when it comes to grabbing bits of the female anatomy, so why are you giving him a free pass?
Because he was a DEMOCRAT?
Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane of Misogyny. Your point is that men of all political affiliations demean, disrespect and abuse women. I guess I agree with that.
Men of all kinds abuse women, and have down through the centuries, keeping some in harems, some as slaves, many times as a form of property or chattel.
Look at now-disgraced Democrat New York State Attorney General Eric T. “Teddy” Schneiderman for proof of that, and believe it or not, the women he was abusinbg actually thought he was too good a Democrat for them to speak out about his verbal and physical abuse, hitting them, choking them, sick **** as far as I am concerned, but there you have it, Susan.
I call it “powerful man” syndrome, myself – to feel good about themselves, to feel “strong,” they need to beat the **** out of a woman, or humiliate a woman.
I certainly won’t deny their existence, especially in high places.
The mistake is when women start believing that all men are like Harvey Weinstein, or Eliot “Longshanks” Spitzer, or “Teddy” Schneiderman.
‘we fortunately have evolved beyond men being able to brutalize woman in the way you describe.’
Really??
You people still spent hours a week painting your faces unnatural colors in order to try to attract a mate. You have not evolved much. Political correctness and the hopes of sex have kept men from teasing you about it, in my short lifetime. What a joke!
Well if it isn’t SUSAN BAUER! LOL! MS. DC LAWYER. You probably have your PUSSY HAT ON AS WE TYPE. STILL EXISTING ON JEFFERSON AVE???
In response to posting a dissenting opinion I have been accused of being a lesbian, threatened with violence, shamed for my husband leaving me (which turned out to be a case of mistaken identity) and sent a weirdly sexual proposition. Is there not one decent man willing to decry the tone of these comments? Asking for a friend…
Note: As a friend, I think I removed the offending posts. Please let me know if I missed any others.
Who would you have cast the first stone?
And at whom?
Who should be the first to be attacked by somebody else for something that offends you in a political blog?
Have you ever considered that those of us in here who are veterans took an oath to defend the right to free expression of everyone in America, including women, so that we would feel somewhat odd in here then denying it to people whose voices you don’t want heard?
I don’t like a lot of what I hear in life, both in here and out there, but you know what, Susan, as an American citizen, my right to extend my arm stops way short of the space occupied by the head or mouth of another, so I am not going to be a censor in here of voices you don’t like heard, and besides, from what I can see, you are well able to defend yourself.
Isn’t that what being emancipated is really all about?
Debs, why are you calling me out for living on Jefferson? Are you disparaging my “side” of town, or are you trying to direct the crazies where to throw their flaming bags of dog turds? You are either being racist or scary. Seriously, I don’t see a good justification for this.
LOL I think we could all surmise Susan’s ideological leanings based on her man-hating ( hating in general, actually) comments! But thank you for the chuckle Debbie!
Ahh, another ’empowered female’.
Sad that these EF’s aren’t able to read, nor comprehend statements. “A rich man can go up and grab them by the……” Which in no way shape or form indicates the speaker did so, he was just speaking………lemme use y’alls words………truth to power……..or is Anna Nicole Smith or any other woman who is with a wealthy man of no attractive features a mere fantasy, never to be seen in reality?
Nope, it is an eternal verity that money is an aphrodisiac. Deny reality at your own detriment.
“No group of men could be more misogynist than Republicans”
Oh, are Clinton, Weiner, Weinstein, Schneiderman ad infinitum all R’s or are they all to a man DEMOCRATS?
I’m with Stuart, you and SassyFraas need to get a room.
‘ Is there not one decent man willing to decry the tone of these comments? Asking for a friend…’
WOW!!!!!!!
Yesterday a Liberated Woman, Today, this?
You Poor Thing.
Whereas, I enjoy a good corruption story as much as the next person, there is a lot of misinformation here. First, the Bay Creek fitness center solicited the town to join the fitness center under a “corporate membership.” The conditions of that membership were no more or less favorable than any other corporate membership already existing at the fitness club – and there are several. The $5000 pool bond is fully refundable at the termination of the membership, so the expense to the town is essentially foregone interest on the $5000 bond. Each town employee choosing to join the club under the corporate membership would have been wholly responsible for the monthly fee, which varied based upon single or family membership, but was the exact same amount as any other corporate members. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, the town would have been able to negotiate a reduction in health care premiums for town employees, because of the fact they offered employees a fitness opportunity. Health care benefits are an essential component of employee/employer relationships, legally required under current law. The town is an employer. The town employees are entitled to health care benefits and opportunities. The recent wage study advised that most of the town employees are underpaid. Why begrudge them a fitness membership, that is a minimal (actual) per employee cost to the town? Unfortunately, there is an inexplicable hostility toward those people who choose to serve the town as town employees. I would never want to work for the town. It seems like a pretty thankless job.
Note: This was placed on the Town Council agenda. A motion was not made, and it died there. Or, it should have died there.
Thank you Susan for your support. Its refreshing to read a truthful and positive comment and not one that is based on false accusations. Not only do I work for the Town but I am the person who handles the employee benefits including our Health Coverage with Anthem. Last year by moving some plans over to high deductible plans and replacing an “Open Access” plan with a less costly plan, we saved the Town roughly $15,000. It is a huge challenge to find a balance that both contains cost and yet is able to provide decent coverage. While the Town does pay the majority of an employee’s single person premium (for the lower cost plans) there is currently no coverage of premium for the dependents. Personally, I pay almost $1,000 a month to cover my family, just for the medical. I basically “work for benefits”. Employees pay 100% for many other benefits, considered voluntary. And yes, we now have an exorbitantly high deductible and out of pocket. I was very hopeful that being able to marry employee wellness with the fitness club would lower these health care costs. I think the issue is way beyond the opportunity to offer a Fitness Center (by the way, employees would pay their dues and fees, and amortized over several years, it really was a dollar or two per employee for the collateral deposit.), it is more about respect – and this goes both ways. We cannot move in a positive direction until the blame storming ends and respect begins. So, again, thank you Susan!
Thank You Jodi and Susan, since the town employees are throwing in, here’s my two cents.
Ordinarily I don’t read your BLOG but was told first thing this morning by my fellow employees of the latest smear campaign. Every word you were quoted by this mysterious town source is malarkey! Oh and by the way a real journalist names sources. Since the meetings in question were closed we can most likely take a guess. But, worry not we forgive you for not being a real journalist after all we’ve been doing for years now.
Note: Always open to correcting malarkey. If you can refute what was told to us, please let us know. For your education, the protection of sources, sometimes also referred to as the confidentiality of sources or in the U.S. as the reporter’s privilege, is a right accorded to journalists under the laws of many countries, as well as under international law. This also applies to not real journalists.
Okay fair enough. Allow me to rephrase…a real journalist when given information from one source customarily investigates for validity before defaming innocent people. Having said that, bloggers are not held to this standard.
Oh and by the way if you do consider yourself a
journalist you can come in to 2 Plum Street anytime and get your Business License.
Note: Thank you, Kathy. I actually spoke to three people, but whatever. I asked why Mr. Panek resigned, that’s all. I have made this offer to other people–I will gladly turn the Mirror over to anyone that wants it and can do a better job, you included. I mean that. I don’t charge for advertising, classifieds are also free, so they probably won’t need a business licence. Anyone that wants to take on the Mirror, that is the out of pocket costs, the technology, going to meetings, watching town hall, and of course spending free time writing or editing 15 to 25 articles per week while working full-time in Norfolk…it’s all theirs. Let me know if you want the job.
Hey Wayne, I got a great idea why don’t we switch jobs. I can learn to slander people and you can learn to bite your tongue.
As someone who wishes we had someone with the courage of a Wayne Creed and a Cape Charles Mirror in which to express our thoughts about the corrupt government we are forced to endure, with no way of making our thought known publicly, as is the case here, I am surprised that people do not appreciate what they have in the Cape Charles Mirror.
You would think people would be thankful for it.
We have corruption here in Progressive Democrat Young Andy Cuomo’s New York state because we do not have a Cape Charles Mirror to raise our voices in.
Thus, corrupt public officials can thumb their noses at us, with impunity, knowing that they are not going to ever get called out in public on it.
As the Washington Post puts it, and they should know, having buried the truth more than once themselves, for political reasons, democracy dies in darkness, and such it would be in Cape Charles if these people disgruntled with Wayne Creed daring to report the news should manage to browbeat him into submission, something easy enough to do in a small town.
What is not surprising is to see Wayne Creed under attack in here by town employees for daring to raise some questions about another town employee.
It was, however, refreshing to see other town employees making good and proper use of the forum offered them by the Cape Charles Mirror to post some facts in rebuttal to other posts.
Isn’t that how a real democracy is supposed to work?
Mr. Wolfe’s case led to the first known instance of the Justice Department going after a reporter’s data under President Trump.
The seizure — disclosed in a letter to the reporter, Ali Watkins — suggested that prosecutors under the Trump administration will continue the aggressive tactics employed under President Barack Obama.
News media advocates consider the idea of mining a journalist’s records for sources to be an intrusion on First Amendment freedoms, and prosecutors acknowledge it is one of the most delicate steps the Justice Department can take.
“Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of democracy, and communications between journalists and their sources demand protection,” said Eileen Murphy, a Times spokeswoman.
Ben Smith, the editor in chief of Buzzfeed News, said in a statement, “We’re deeply troubled by what looks like a case of law enforcement interfering with a reporter’s constitutional right to gather information about her own government.”
When law enforcement officials obtained journalists’ records during the Obama administration, members of Congress in both parties sounded alarms, and the moves touched off such a firestorm among advocates for press freedom that helped prompt the Justice Department to rewrite its relevant guidelines.
“Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of democracy,” Ms. Murphy said.
“This decision by the Justice Department will endanger reporters’ ability to promise confidentiality to their sources and, ultimately, undermine the ability of a free press to shine a much-needed light on government actions.”
“That should be a grave concern to anyone who cares about an informed citizenry.”
– THE NEW YORK TIMES By ADAM GOLDMAN, NICHOLAS FANDOS and KATIE BENNER 8 JUNE 2018
Ahh, the good leetle apparatchik demands obeisance before the all powerful State in the form of a license to practice journalism.
Sassy Fraas, economically you seem to desire Venezuela but politically you seem to desire a Cuba or North Korea(Before POTUS TRUMP!!!! took on the case).
License to practice journalism…..feh…….Americans reject your totalitarianism.
Progressivism delenda est.
HEH HEH HEH HEH
Whoops!
Sorry!
Actually, real journalists do not reveal their sources – they keep them confidential to protect them from retaliation.
There is a website https://www.rcfp.org/jailed-journalists , The Reporters’ Committee For Freedom of the Press, entitled Paying the Price: A recent census of reporters jailed or fined for refusing to testify – The Reporters Committee tracks subpoena challenges and helps reporters faced with forced to testify or disclose sources and information.
You should check it out – you would find it quite informative about what real reporters and journalists actually do in real life.
Why should Wayne Creed be different and throw his sources under the bus?
How is corruption going to be tackled if people are afraid of having their names made public, exposing them to retaliation, if they reveal corruption to the Cape Charles Mirror?
Paul, it is standard ethics that one does NOT sleep with a source to obtain info.
Especially classified, NatSec info from the Intelligence Committee.
Creed, yes. Watkins, no. One is a reporter, the other is for all intents and purposes a spy.
How come just about everything that goes on in Washington is now classified?
As an American citizen, I think that is BULL****!
Respect is earned, never given. You sound like a Liberal too.
Pool??
All that water and fools want to swim in Clorox Bleach?
As to corruption stories, Susan, this is really small potatoes compared to the town I live in.
It is interesting, but the corruption is not anything that is going to make Cape Charles a world contender for the most corrupt town in the nation.
Too many other towns are just like it for Cape Charles to stand out from the pack.
‘Your point is that men of all political affiliations demean, disrespect and abuse women. I guess I agree with that.’
Why do you all think you are so special that you can not be demeaned, disrespected and abused?
Men face the same things every day. You all really need to get a grip on yourselves, you are starting to sound like Black folks…..and that is not a good look.
Women want to be equal, but treated special. They cannot have it both ways. The sooner they figure this out the better off we all will be.
Get Vaccaro or Krawczel back on board as town managers. They were too honest for Panek and Sullivan and their slimeball sidekick council buddies. Get someone who knows how to run the town and who’ll do it honestly.
Why is it whenever they fire a crook they find it necessary to re-hire them as a consultant?
Did the same with Panek’s buddy Katie.
Isn’t it really just a ploy to gull the taxpayers, David Boyd, this supposed “firing.” or making them “resign,” and then immediately re-hiring them as consultants, when in fact, by bringing them back as “consultants,” instead of employees, they give them even more power without any accountability to the taxpayers, at all?
So far the only people that are defending Bob Panek are two people that work for the town of Cape Charles and one lady that works for Bay Creek! GO FIGURE!
I bet they wear pussy-hats…
Never worked for Bay Creek.
So let’s see here Kathy and Jodi are typing away on the Mirror during work hours ? My wife always said the town has too many employees. Oh and of course Susan will always jump onto a cause especially if it involves Bay Creek. Gee Susan you’ve been in a foul mood ever since you moved here and your husband left you for your real estate agent.
Debs, are you confusing me with someone else? LOL Debs. I married my high school sweetheart and we just celebrated our 34th wedding anniversary. Who in the heck are you viciously maligning?
What is with people emulating a black culture by putting an ‘s’ behind peoples name? Did you want to make it plural? I will never understand why white folks emulate blacks, but it sure looks and sound ignorant. I thought they were supposed to assimilate into Our society after they were allowed to integrate….they sure have failed.
Donnie, I apologize for confusing you with your wife. It was an honest mistake.
2 fifteen minute breaks a day, Don
Takes me no time at all to respond to the likes of you.
BTW do you have a pony in this race? Just sayin
Nope no pony in the race! Let me explain something to you Kathy Frass. My family has been living in this area primarily Cape Charles since the 1800s. I have forgotten more about the history of the town of Cape Charles then you will ever know. You are so busy defending the town of Cape Charles and the idiots that run it. The town of Cape Charles is being driven into the ground by the likes of Bob Panek and your idiot Town Council. The main reason that we sold our home was because we were disgusted with the way the town is being run. You have been living in town what 15 years or so? I fully intended on retiring and living in the town that I grew up in. But after 10 years of watching The Town become nothing more than a tourist trap, with come here’s raging about all of the problems. The town is being run by a bunch of people that are not from here and have no idea how to be kind to the locals. Frank Wendell and myself grew up together and watching the town be driven into the ground is heartbreaking. Financially the town of Cape Charles is in trouble and no one is looking into it. BOB PANEK is clearly and underhanded devious person. He was fired from the Pentagon and has now left the town of Cape Charles thank God. If the town is stupid enough to let him be the project manager then they are asking for a good screwing. You and your friend Susan Bauer deserve what you get.
All this swirl from the third happiest sea side town in America. I am grateful that Cape Charles is so very much improved since we came here is 2000.
Alright everybody, calm down, you should know by now there is no reason to panic. Mr Panic just got a little impatient waiting for the wheels of the Cape Charles government to turn while he wanted his discounted Bay Creek membership. They say that you are either happy as a clam or as dumb as a clam, well here in Cape Charles we are both. Take the money and run!
‘Digging Clams’…….never heard an Eastern Shoreman refer to a clam that way.
We sign ’em, kick ’em, wade ’em, rake ’em, and drudge ’em……..but ‘dig’?
No.
If the town wanted to give their employees an opportunity to have health club memberships, then why did they not approach me when I was operating the former gym in town?? My rates were extremely low ($29.99 a month) and I did not charge a join fee. My gym, although smaller than Bay Creek and no pool, offered a wide variety of amenities and even a full schedule of fitness classes. And, there would have been no $5000 join fee. Unbelievable.
What an excellent question.
Jill, Exactly! What say you, Oh Town Employees?! Mr. Panek?
Jodi and Kathy, can you afford to pay over $1000 a year for gym membership? Don’t you need the money for your high health premiums? Who wants that ugly pool when you have the beach? Buy some weights and walk around instead of writing put downs for a NEWSPAPER that so many of us stupid people read? If it has to be in print to be legit, you’re a dinosaur, get yourself back to your typewriter. Thanks Wayne for working for us. We should pay you for your work. Get yourself a gofundme account.
This isnt a newspaper
It’s a blog.
I’m not hiding
Using my real name
How about you Sister or
Brother
Daisy girl you’re a mysterious genius
My name is
Kathy Fraas
I will not ever be seen On this trash again
May the force be with you
Wayne you should be so
Proud
What Wayne should be proud of, and all you people, as well, is the fact that he has both the patience and endurance to provide your community with what is pure democracy. a form of self-government among intelligent and enlightened individuals ideally suited for a small community with diverse interests like Cape Charles.
I am an American citizen, not a consumer, not a partisan of any organized political party, and the tradition of democracy I inherited here to the north of you goes back to the democracy of the people of the Six Nations, also known by the French term, Iroquois Confederacy, who call themselves the Hau de no sau nee (ho dee noe sho nee) meaning People Building a Long House.
The Six Nations included the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, Senecas, and the Tuscaroras, who migrated into Iroquois country in the early eighteenth century.
When I was young I was taught that together, these peoples comprise the oldest living participatory democracy on earth.
When I was young, this being five years old, I was taught that participatory democracy, such as we were supposed to have inherited in my state from the Iroquois, whose lives we studied when young, required each citizen to not only know what was going on around him or her in the community, of which they were a part, hence the term “participatory,” but further, they had a duty to stand up and make their voice heard in public about matters of public importance, such as this topic obviously is, not sneaking around behind closed doors, as politics in this nation has become.
It seems very much that that is the complaint being raised here about this “TRASH,” it being that Wayne Creed has actually dared, not being a “real newspaper” in the opinion of some, but certainly not that of others who know better, to stand up, against apparent counter-social dictates, to allow voices that aren’t supposed to be to be heard on subjects that apparently are not supposed to be heard in Cape Charles (HUSH! Don’t you know we don’t want them to know?).
So the attack is really on participatory democracy in Cape Charles, because that is what the Cape Charles Mirror provides – to all sides of an issue, which is so rare in America as to be almost, except for the Cape Charles Mirror, non-existent.
All those who get all snippy and huffy and throw their hissy fits because Wayne Creed dares to bring pure democracy to Cape Charles, and then go stomping off in a huff are only removing themselves from the pure democracy gene pool, so to speak.
By stomping off in a snit like that, “MY GOD, I WILL NEVER BE BEFOULED WITH THIS TRASH AGAIN,” and then never coming back, all that person does is to isolate themselves from the reality being expressed by those who comprise the community at large, which community extends far beyond Cape Charles in this the internet age.
So be it.
As to the Iroquois, their story, and governance truly based on the consent of the governed, contains a great deal of life-promoting intelligence for those of us not familiar with this area of American history.
The original United States representative democracy, fashioned by such central authors as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, drew much inspiration from this confederacy of nations.
In our present day, we can benefit immensely, in our quest to establish anew a government truly dedicated to all life’s liberty and happiness much as has been practiced by the Six Nations for over 800 hundred years.
And LE VOILA, along comes Wayne Creed!
For that, I, at least, am quite thankful, as a military veteran and adherent of participatory democracy in each community in America.
Well Daisy nobody called you stupid and certainly nobody called this a newspaper.
My name is
Kathy Fraas what’s yours Daisy
But really don’t bother responding, I’m out
Jill, yes, that was definitely a missed oppportunity. It would have been great on many levels. If you were still operating now it would be wonderful. I know your place was very well received and unfortunately the idea of launching a wellness program wasn’t on the radar then. I’m sorry. If you think I haven’t thought about how I wish your gym was still around, then I will correct you. I wish your gym was still around. Although I’m a walker so that still is my preferred exercise. I think the suggestion of carrying weights is actually a good one! (I’m not being cheeky, it’s great). However, it would have been a nice benefit and could have checked the box for wellness discounts.
I know many people enjoy this blog and Wayne, you are very dedicated indeed! I have not nor will I ever make any personal attacks on anyone. I work here and live here and adore this town. I enjoy everyone I meet and always make an effort to be a good neighbor and a good citizen and to be an honest hard worker. Im sorry if I said anything that caused you (collective you) to make several unkind remarks. I’m confused really that my remark resulted in such a lashing. I read it over again a few times and, well, I’m stumped. Oh well.
And just to clarify, as I feel it’s important now. I did use my lunch break today to make the one response. If you do have a comment you’d like to make to me or perhaps advice, consultation or anything you feel you’d like me to know, feel free to tell me in person. Also, I have used my real name. I’m not hiding. I do not understand why all these poster pseudonyms?
Thank you,
NO MORE BOB! NO MORE PANIC! NO MORE BOB! NO MORE PANIC! Anyone else having a Panek Attack???
Susan, please accept my apology for jumping to the wrong conclusion about who you are. I got you confused with a woman that works for Bay Creek. If you had put your last name I would have known who you really are. Actually I felt kind of bad after I sent that comment about you or whoever the real Susan is
Don, I started to type many things in response to this comment, but I’ll just leave it with, on behalf of all the Susans, I sincerely thank you for apologizing.
You appear to have a multiple personality disorder. You were so sure of yourself yesterday. You played the Fem-Nazi part so well, today just another woman looking for a man to ‘decry’ her honor.
I think Denis Pickron says it best: “All this swirl from the third happiest sea side town in America” Dang. Kind of reminds me of looking in on that family that won Father/Mother of the year award. Just don’t ask the kids.
But seriously, you folks have some in-house issues that need ironing out. If this resignation can ignite a fire-storm such as these comments represent, imagine what the source of all that smoke really is! I think an in-house audit is WAY past due. Citizens of Cape Charles, it is your tax money, after all, they are using and abusing. You deserve straight answers.
And as for Wayne and his journalistic techniques, I find no other source from the Eastern Shore that digs as deep and roots out the truth to what is going on behind closed doors. Blog or newspaper, it matters not, when it comes to exposing the underbelly of corruption and malfeasance. Wayne, anytime you need a second…I’m your huckleberry. Keep up the good work and hold your head high.
Very well said and good to hear your voice on the subject, Chas Cornweller, dude, and fellow American patriot!
Either the State Attorney General or the State Inspector General need to be brought into Cape Charles. Many years ago there was a corrupt little group running the town. They were caught and prosecuted! Round 2 coming up!
SAD !
Hey Bob Panek! Im calling you out! We know you use the internet. We know you use facebook. We also know you’re reading this. So what do you have to say? Anything at all? Or did your lawyer tell you to put the tax payers money where your mouth is and keep it shut? You’re a disgrace to this town and to this country.
Rumor, innuendo, half truths and character assassination!
It seems like weeks ago, the issues raised by the Mirror concerned Bob Panek.
Since then the issues between and among our citizens have spiral out of control.
Let me summarize some topic:
Bay Creek, gym and residents
High School
The beach
Drinking water
Community enhancement board
Liberals
Carpet baggers
Women’s lib
Potty mouth (f&ck)
Men vs. women
Lesbians
Hillary
Andy Cuomo
Ann Nicole Smith (what?)
Journalism
Venezuela North Korea Cuba
Black culture
How does this list address the original issue?
Note: It tends to go this way sometimes.
It doesn’t. It just means you’ve stumbled into a nest of trolls.
I thought they live under rocks and eat bad children?
Aren’t you doing the same thing?
Now you add trolls to his list of off topic subjects.
Pot calls kettle black.
I feel compelled to point out that another Susan has joined the discussion, so had to adopt a new moniker. I feel it’s only fair that I am attacked, slut shamed, sexually propositioned and threatened based only on my own political views. I sure hope you are not the Susan who suffered the misfortune of her husband running off with the real estate agent.
Bless Your Heart…
What incredible drama!
My goodness!
Attacked, slut shamed, sexually propositioned and threatened, all in one post!
Normally, you don’t see that many different kinds of victimhood happening to the same character in the drama all at the same time.
It is that kind of inventive script-writing which draws people here from literally all over the planet, given the global reach of the Cape Charles Mirror, in this, the age of the internet, God bless Al Gore and all his progeny for it, instead of watching dull, insipid soap operas on TV.
Soaps are dead. The Mirror saw to that. Long live the Mirror! More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Hope I did not offend any monkeys or their uncles.
I very rarely comment, but your comment, Susan-Fem Nazi hit way below the belt. If you had any class it just left the building. I’m done.
Sounds like a page right out of the Clinton play book.
This has got to be the most responded to article ever published in the Mirror. We have Patriots, chauvinists, Pussy Hats, Femi-Nazis, Texans, Come Here’s, From Here’s, Been There’s, Has Been’s, watermen, Farmers, racists, bigots, and everyone is bitching in one of the Happiest Beach Towns in America. I am surprised that Trump hasn’t tweeted on this article. Still waiting to hear from Black Elvis. I bet he has a take on this! Maybe the new mayor will clean house so the taxpayers can go back to enjoying Kelly’s, the new distillery, the new brewery, the new hard cider shop, the wines at Gullhummock, ice cream at Cool Eats and the farmers market.
I can’t wait to sink my teeth into one of those fantabulous veggie burgers at Kelly’s myself.
I think they are a big part of the reason people in Cape Charles are so happy, that and the fact that they, unlike everybody else in America, have the Cape Charles Mirror to vent their spleens in when things aren’t going right in the town, as is obviously the case here.
Scan the New York Times or the Washington Post, and see how much coverage they have of what is going on in Cape Charles.
I bet neither could find it with a GPS, so people are rightfully proud of what they have here in the Cape Charles Mirror, so it is no surprise they are so happy.
Noooooooooooooo!! NOT the Veggie burgers again!!!!
ROFLMAO.
At least, Paul on your way south to get the VB, stop by Trenton so I can buy you a burger at Rossi’s, or a steak at Errini’s.
And be well, enjoy your week.
MK
And the same to you, Mike!
They have any good veggie burgers in Trenton, or do you have to come all the way south to Kelly’s to finally find one worth sinking your teeth in to?
Had black bean burgers on the menu at lunch today……
So of course I had pork roll.
😉
You gentlemen stuck in the 50’s, the 1850’s, may have to come to terms with the fact that your thinking and opinions are outdated. Thinking blacks, women, democrats, come here’s, and anybody who doesn’t think like you is “the problem with this country”, could be part of the problem with this country. Times change. You don’t have to change but society will. See you at the brewery and distillery. Thank you, thank you very much……Black Elvis has left the building.
Whasssssss’up, Black Elvis, dude?
What’s the haps?
And time is a loop, dude – so the past is continually becoming the present, all over again, so that tomarrow will be actually yesterday, all over again.
As to Americans, back in 1976, the elementary school I attended way back when had the children write out their thoughts on what an American is, or at least was considered to be back then, and then those thoughts were published in a book that I still have and cherish.
Here is a sample from a little girl in the 3rd grade at that time, 42 years ago now, in a different century and millennium, to wit:
An American is someone who was born in America.
He or she can be white or black, red or yellow.
It really does not matter what color you are or what you do for a living.
You can even be the president.
The thing that makes you an American is that you were born in America.
In some lands, the people have to be ruled by a king or a queen.
But in this land, America, you are free.
– Carla S.
That is the same thing I was taught back in 1951.
So why all the differentiation today?
If it didn’t matter to a little girl in the 3d grade back then what color you were, how come it does now?
What’s up with that, do you think?
The candid world would like to hear your insights on the matter.
Take a look at The Men Who Built America: Frontiersmen (2018). I was a four part series on The History Channel. It clearly shows just who built this nation from the ground up. So much so that I was surprised to see it on TV, as it goes against the current Liberal Narrative. It clearly shows White Males, not woman, not blacks, not Mexicans planning and executing those plans to make this country a place that others could migrate to. Please save your breath to cool your soup. Politicians and Hollywood have lied to you and most people are so politically correct they do not tell you all the truth about how they really feel. The actions of blacks and woman over the last decade have shown me their true colors. Period.
LOL, on the backs of blacks, Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese and the fine clothes they wore stitched together in the sweat shops populated by women.
tkenny, dude, s’sssssup?
It’s good to see you around, tkenny, making sure some other side of the argument gets heard.
But the dudes wearing all the fine clothes the blacks, Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese stitched together in the sweat shops populated by women weren’t the ones who built America.
They were the ones who fed off the building of America like parasites.
The ones who built America wore work clothes.
Just saying.
They labored under the lash of our whips. They labored according to our will. They were the crude tools used by Our Fathers to realize their dream, their efforts directed by minds greater than their own, by visions of destiny many still today cannot understand.
Wow!
Could the fact that the Democrats, the least democratical of people on the face of the earth, think that all Americans who are not Democrats are a “basket of deplorables” also be part of the problem with this country?
Just curious.
Susan and Stuart take your boys hate girls, girls hate boys elementary crap somewhere else. Like Facebook perhaps. Or perhaps back to elementary school where it seems you two belong. Shut up, hold hands, and kiss and make up. You know you two really like each other so be nice. Besides half if not all of what you’re saying is irrelevant to the situation.
Abe? I never met any southern men named Abe. That is a bad word in the places I have called home.
@Susan, Stuart Bell, David Gay, and Paul Plante, shut up while grown folk are talking! Just because people are talking about you doesn’t mean anyone’s talking to you.
Who died and left you in charge? I am Free, White, and Over 21, I will do as I damn well please.
I missed the part where the grown folks were talking.
Does anyone know where that was?
Certainly not in “Abe P. Knob says @ June 13, 2018 at 11:50 am,” anyway, so far as I can discern after what seems like several hours of very close scrutiny to his admittedly very cryptic and arcane writings above here.
Look at this statement, for example: Just because people are talking about you doesn’t mean anyone’s talking to you.
That is so straight out of fifth grade where I come from it isn’t funny, so it is certain that when that statement was uttered by “Abe P. Knob says @ June 13, 2018 at 11:50 am,” it was not at all a case of a grown folk talking, at least in my own considerable life experiences with grown folks, dating back to when I was young.
That is something somebody in the fifth grade would say to somebody not in with the in-crowd as a childish put-down.
In here, where it is a form of participatory democracy you are clearly uncomfortable with, when someone talks about someone, like that poor woman in here who has been attacked, slut shamed, sexually propositioned and threatened, because she expressed her political position, then most certainly, you are talking to that person, and the American sense of fairness, which is very evident right here in this thread, demands that the person so talked about have a chance to balance the record with facts.
Did former Mayor Dora Sullivan, current councilman Chris Bannon and the rest of our elected officials at the time perform a criminal background check on Bob Panek before they turned over the town to him in the mid 2000’s? If no, why not? If yes, what did they find? Did they find out information on his SCAM to bilk the Navy retirement system? If they knew about that how did they justify hiring a person what that on his record? How many business people would make such a hire ? How dare Sullivan and Bannon be so reckless to allow Bob Panek unfettered access to grant and tax funds. How many of you reading this have read about Bob Panek’s Navy record that has a link to this article? Is this incident with the $5,000 and the Bay Creek fitness club just insubordination or embezzlement? Was there every a full accounting of the Our Town grant funds that disappeared so quickly that Bob Panek and Hank Mayer where in charge of administering? If no why? If yes can the public view its contents? Why Is Mayor Proto and our council still retaining Bob Panek to work with the town as a contractor managing capital projects? Does everyone reading this comment know the meaning of MALFEASANCE? Cape Charles and its citizens deserve better than Bob Panek and the public officials that continue to enable him.
Oh, good lord. I know this is late but why in the hell is anyone in such a lovely place letting the likes of Hank Mayer get involved????? RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Hey Bob “Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time”
GO ON, TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN !!!
BOB, “YOU’RE FIRED !!!” ( IN MY DONALD TRUMP VOICE )
For Susan/fem/nazi,, I am reaching out to Susan B.
YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW ME AND YET YOU ARE CALLING ME A RACIST? I had wanted someone to throw a burning bag of dog poop on your front lawn I would have put your address. Just for the record I have despised you since the town meetings regarding the old school becoming a community center. I don’t have to call someone a racist I will call you exactly what you are. You were a bitch. then and good to see that you are still a bitch. I can be a very friendly person or I can be a pretty scary person. People like you that move to this area and act like total jerks or what brings out the worst in me Susan darling. There were many times that your husband walked by our home carrying your little dog and walking the other one on a leash that I said hello. I think I might have even said hello to you. At any rate this is something that will never heal for my husband and I. The town has got too many people running it that have no clue what they are doing. No matter. I promised myself that I would not say anything else about this problem, however when you called me a racist that was a little out of line. See you around Susan 😉
IF I HAD WANTED!
The tone of my comments to this article was regrettable. Please accept my apology.
They make meds for that.
I don’t know any of the characters involved in this spat, but I for one am disgusted by the viciousness and lack of basic human kindness expressed here. Quite honestly, I don’t know how you sleep at night.
Seriously, David, are you just now waking up to the fact that the American people lack basic human kindness and are vicious?
Can you remember a time in this nation’s history when it was otherwise?
Could it be related to the fact that there really is no such universal thing as “basic human kindness?”
Just as there is no such universal thing as a spirit of “republicanism” in this country?
Some people choose to exhibit kindness towards others, and that is commendable.
But I have found them to be few and far between, especially in an age where one part of America considers the other to be a “basket of deplorables.”
When you have that type of blanket condemnation occurring at the national level in this country, that kind of disgusting viciousness and lack of basic human kindness expressed at that level, why would you then expect to find it at the local level in Cape Charles?
As to rudeness in America, David Muir, which might be more American than even apple pie, just this morning, on the internet news feed, there was a story from INSIDER entitled “The 30 rudest cities in America, where manners are basically a foreign concept” by Kristin Salaky.
Cape Charles did not make the cut, nor did it even get an honorable mention.
Not surprisingly, Washington, D.C. and Baltimore, Md. are on the list, as is Barack Obama’s hometown of Chicago, plus New York City, where Democrat heavy hitters Hillary Clinton, Young Andy Cuomo, Charley “Chuck” Schumer, disgraced former New York State attorney general Eric T. “Teddy the Hitter” Schneiderman, and disgraced former NYS governor Eliot “Longshanks” Spitzer all draw their political support from.
So Cape Charles could be a lot worse.
And what is wrong with people being upset with having to endure a corrupt, autocratic, non-transparent local government, as seems to be very much the case here?
Should they treat corrupt politicians as if they were their best friends?
Should they treat the supporters of corrupt politicians as their best buddies?
Wayne Creed…You. have more honesty & integrity than anyone living in the town of. Cape Charles! Thank you for all of your hard work in bringing to light all of the dirty deals that define Cape Charles! Unfortunately the latest dirty little deal by Bob Panek is just the tip of the iceberg! The town needs a complete audit!
By the power vested in me (by being a born & bred LOCAL) I now pronounce you to be an HONORARY LOCAL!!!! I have only bestowed this honor on 1 other person! Have a wonderful day Wayne! My wife & I LOVE YOU♡♡♡♡♡♡
How we wish we had someone of his courage and integrity up here in corrupt New York state, where comments like these on corrupt government normally do not see the light of day, suppression and repression being the plays of the day here to the north of you people in Cape Charles.
This may be naive, but on the question of the $5000. paid to Bay Creek in a contravention by Bob Panek of Town Council instructions, is it not possible for the Town or the Town’s attorney, to just to write a letter to Bay Creek explaining the circumstances and requesting a refund?(Perhaps this has already been done ?) On the question of beach management, I think the Town should request a permit to do the work suggested by John Lockwood. If done judiciously, this work should enhance the beach for users while still protecting homes. And this may be even more naive, but it seems to me that your readers would be better served to put forward their views without resorting to name-calling and abusive rhetoric as that detracts rather than adds to important conversations on the issues under discussion in my opinion.
Note: Not naive at all, we agree with everything you have said. As to the $5000, we confirmed this week that Mr. Panek paid that himself from his own account; we noted in the article that the issue was more disregarding the wishes of the town council that led to the resignation, not a misappropriation of any kind. We are not sure if it has been returned or not. We probably allow too much angry rhetoric and agree it does not add much to the conversation.
Thank you, Marlene Cree! You have said what needed to be said. To paraphrase another contributor to this conversation, my family has lived in Northampton County since BEFORE the 1800s (as if this makes any difference) and I, and many others, welcome all to enjoy this wonderful place.
No matter if you are a “come here”, “stay here” or “love it here”, I say welcome here!!!
Don Bender,
You may have been bred local but who gives a hoot? Does this make you right and that us “come heres” are not worthy? If so you can pay my real estate taxes and I will quietly bow down to you o’mighty on. Get a life and realize that people are protected by laws to speak what is on the minds and that being a “local” does not allow you a larger voice.
If you are so hell bent on saving Cape Charles have at it. Start out by building a wall and keeping all of the “come heres” out. You can get all of the “locals” together and get started asap. OBS and Watson’s Hardware will “Chip” in on the materials. You can fund it by selling “Make Cape Charles Great Again” hats. Or better yet you can have a “grab her P***y contest at the Palace theater. Or one bette, you can collude with the Russians! Make Putin and Honorary Local!
WOW….. You folks are sad …
Sad? Yes it is. But then again maybe not. “In all you human endeavors there are divisions”. Kofi Anan the prior chairman of Nato. This has become the new normal in our American culture and it starts from the White House and all the way down to Mason Avenue.
And the really sad truth is that this will most likely never cease. My point to my prior post is that to communicate with certain people you must communicate to them in a way they will understand. Ugly? Yes. But it is my right as well as my “opponents” right. Pretty? No.
In any event the saga will continue…..Sad but true….
Anyone familiar with the opening scene of David Lynch’s “Blue Velvet”?
You start out viewing a nice suburban setting, kids walking to school, firetruck cruising the street, man watering a lawn, white picket fence and flowers.
Then it all start to unravel, one failure after another, ending with a close up of the underside of the lawn, a squiring mass of cockroaches.
I’m glad Rayfield’s is on the edge of town.
Note: Mr. Otton, this is probably the best, most succinct analogy we have received in a long time. Thank you.
Thanks, Wayne and for the record, you can call me Ray, you can call me Ray-Jay, you can call me R-J, you can call me Rotten-Otton but ya doesn’t hasta call me Mr. Otton. 🙂
(You young’uns go look it up on youtube.)
As to succinctness, there are a couple of contributors here who could use a double dose of Hemingway’s Five Tips for Writing Well.
Y’all should consider them the Imodium of the literary world.
What say, R. JAY?
Or is it Ray J?
Anyway, Hemingway committed suicide, did you know that, Mr. Otten?
(I’ll be damned if I’ll stoop to calling you “Rotten Otten,” because you are just too nice a guy for that)
I think it had something to do with him feeling inadequate because he really wasn’t much of an author, and he knew it.
There’s a message in there for those of us who choose to write for publication today, is there not, Ray?
Seems so to me, anyway
I have read the writings of many, many authors of all kinds of genres in my lifetime, which actually may be nearly as long as yours, given the cultural clues you have given us above here, and yes, I really did like that dude and how he could go on about “but you don’t have to call me Johnson,” and what comes across is how intelligent the writers of antiquity were, which also is an indication of how intelligent their readers were, which is what we are missing in this country today, Ray – people can no longer read or assimilate information from the written word, because they don’t have to.
It’s a lost skill, being able to actually read.
On another note, given all the hostility shown in here to Wayne Creed personally by some people who want the Cape Charles Mirror to be tightly censored, given what happened in Maryland yesterday where yet another AMERICAN SICKO WHACK-JOB with a gun decided he was God’s vengeance, or some such insane idea as that, because God alone knows what motivates AMERICAN SICKO WHACKJOBS to be SICKO WHACKJOBS, I think we all can be very glad that the Cape Charles Mirror does not have a brick-and-mortar fixed location.
What say, R. JAY?
Or is it Ray J?
Anyway, Hemingway committed suicide, did you………………………..
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Whoa, I have an imprint of the keyboard on my forehead, damn it!
But it was a good nap, so thanks.
Hey, think nothing of it, Mr, Otton!
Just glad I could be there for you when you so obviously needed it.
We old dudes in here have to hang together, because nobody else is going to do it for us.
And naps are important for us old dudes, as you know.
I take one every afternoon myself, but not on my keyboard.
I usually lay down on the couch, myself.
Much more comfortable that way, and you don’t have to deal with a keyboard imprint in your face, afterwards.
You ought to give it a try next time you feel some drowsiness coming over you.
” and there use to be a ballpark right here “