October 5, 2025

14 thoughts on “An Incident at Salt Grove

  1. Oyster? You must be kidding me? The only thing it had going for it was The Harvey Building. Now that’s gone.
    I would love to have any of Mr. Baldwin’s buildings next to my property . They are always first class! Northampton has no tax base now. We need to build a new high school, the hospital is leaving I could go on and on.
    People should be applauding projects such as Salt Grove and condemning the unhealthy, grotesque abandoned burned out or deteriating buildings that make Northampton County
    look like a third world country in many locations. Northampton allows these types of structures all up and down the shore. What about the trash along the roads. Let’s be more concerned about that! Why do people always complain about the nice things they see, but are blinded by the trash in the ditches, oil containers on beaches, abandoned buildings, ….. I have seen old appliances tossed in yards (there were truck loads of them in a yard in Nassawadox.) Do people have permits for this?

  2. As a resident of Northampton county I can say that I have had much experience with the Salt Grove property. I am a member of the Cape Charles rowing club, which the aforementioned floating dock is used for at Salt Grove. Thanks to the generosity of the Baldwin family, we have a place to do that sport as it requires a short dock to launch our boats. (Before that they allowed us to house our club on their private property aside the open gardens at Eyre Hall).
    Each day when we launched our slender sculls into the water, we would encounter many others doing the same, except those were oyster and clamming boats allowed to use the space for free. To my knowledge the Baldwins allowed several aqua farmers to use that space for what it was intended, the seafood business, for many years and only stopped that practice when confronted with this issue of usage. I have no idea where those watermen are now practicing their trade.
    I also had occasion to use the space for a funeral for a friend whom was a fisherman, house a family member in need, and experience the beauty of Cherrystone creek in all it’s glory on many and varied mornings. Each time I was upon that creek Teeming with wildlife, I blessed my lot in life to be there and the Baldwin family for their generosity. Not just to me, but to many I know who have used the space to provide for their families.
    Is it wrong to beg forgiveness and not ask permission, well, yeah. Is it inconvenient for the people who own the land going into Salt grove to have so many cars and people using the space? well yeah. Personally, I hope an answer is forthcoming that allows people and wildlife to enjoy and preserve the history of that small strip of land, and the ones who live there to have their peace and privacy. Certainly I can see both sides of this coin.
    But to say it is going to be like Hilton Head or the like, I just don’t see it happening there. To my (limited) knowledge, buying that property saved it from being even more developed as it was scheduled to have a much larger housing footprint than it currently has before Eyre bought it.
    I love that spot and for me it will always hold a special place in my heart for the many hours spent in harmony with nature there and supernal beauty it provided this one rower.

  3. There will soon be no working waterfront space left on the Eastern Shore of Virginia for watermen to use as gentrification is becoming a plague. Watermen, who are already having a difficult time making ends meet financially, often cannot afford slips and expensive dock space. Dare I say look at the huge fiasco where King’s Creek “used to be” as an example? So, go ahead and convert all of the waterfront space for kayak access, rowing opportunities or other “recreational” pleasures to satisfy the upper-crust of the Eastern Shore. You are destroying not only a way of life that supported the ESVA long before your arrival, but also family’s lives. Enjoy yourselves while the poor of the ESVA remain as they always have….poor and powerless.

    1. I think you missed my point. My ‘upper crust’ recreational activity was harmonious with the watermen who worked there. The property was used by them to meet their needs. I am not sure what stopped that rent free usage; the event use or the complaints of traffic by other road occupants. Whatever the case, our club is certainly not a pleasure enjoyed by only the rich as I myself am a working class citizen who shares my hours teaching others to row as well (for free I might add).

  4. It didn’t take long for the “alternative facts” syndrome to hit the Shore. Here we have a real estate developer talking about “regulatory compromise” for someone who didn’t like the rules and failed to get permits. Here’s what courts and legal briefs use as alternative words to “regulatory compromise”:

    banking on privilege, an ethical breach of principles, granting an unfair advantage based on convenience, expecting to be excused from compliance with an inconvenient restriction, avoiding entanglement with regulations, and cronyism. They all seem to fit this story; take your pick.

  5. I am a commercial fishermen that worked crabbing out of salt grove on and off some last summer. Mr. Baldwin has let me tie up in there for some years at no charge. I take my pots in there and power wash them when they get dirty also It’s been a big help to me at times. The property looks better than it ever has. It’s really a beautiful place. Hopefully things will work out.

  6. If the people complaining want it , then stop complaining and buy it. It is for sale.
    Maybe these people concerned should convince the county to buy it for a public dock for everyone including waterman???

  7. It’ll dream you a dream you a dream that will never come true don’t give me no trouble or I’ll call up my my double will play piggy in the middle with you.

    1. Just who are you directing that child-like gibberish to??? I hope that was not directed to the lady posting above. What is wrong you?? You better leave that stuff alone….it has made you ‘Null and Void’.

  8. I figured that out about the time I sent that reply. I had to run it around my tongue for a bit. I have been listening to him for over 30 years…

    I been brought down to zero, pulled out and put back there.
    I sat on a park bench, kissed the girl with the black hair
    And my head shouted down to my heart
    “You better look out below!”

    Hey, it ain’t such a long drop don’t stammer don’t stutter
    From the diamonds in the sidewalk to the dirt in the gutter
    And you carry those bruises
    To remind you wherever you go.

    -J.Prine ’78

    1. John Prine says:

      1. I guess if you keep making the same mistake long enough, it becomes your style.

      2. If heartaches was commercials, we’d all be on TV.

      3. I’m fascinated by America…it’s so odd.

      4. Bewildered, bewildered, you have no complaint. You are what you are, and you ain’t what you ain’t.

      5. I guess what I always found funny was the human condition. There is a certain comedy and pathos to trouble and accidents. Like, when a driver has parked his car crookedly and then wonders why he has the bad luck of being hit.

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