Mathematician examines votes in Georgia, and finds that a Biden win was mathematically impossible:
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useyslysays
Please stop this. Biden and GA Dems won.
Anger, angst and sour grapes only make the situation worse. What we need to do is work together to support compromise and bipartisanship – not grumbling about the reality in Congress and the new President.
Bottom line, Useless, is that Joe Biden is president solely because like a third-world, banana republic tin-pot dictator, Joe Biden has fortified Washington, D.C. and is holding it with 25,000 heavily-armed troops of sworn loyalty to Joe Biden along with tanks and helicopter gunships and machine guns like our capital was the heavily fortified Green Zone in Iraq that served as the headquarters of successive Iraqi regimes including that of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
That is why we all must accept Joe Biden as president today.
In that, Useless, Joe Biden reminds me very much of Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte (25 November 1915 – 10 December 2006), the Chilean Army General, politician and military dictator who ruled Chile from 1973 to 1990, first as the leader of the Military Junta of Chile from 1973 to 1981, being self-declared President of the Republic by the junta in 1974 and becoming the de facto dictator of Chile, and after from 1981 to 1990 as de jure President after a new Constitution, who confirmed him in the office, was approved by a referendum in 1980.
Do you remember Augusto Pinochet, Useless?
Augusto Pinochet rose through the ranks of the Chilean Army to become General Chief of Staff in early 1972 before being appointed its Commander-in-Chief on 23 August 1973 by President Salvador Allende.
On 11 September 1973, Pinochet seized power in Chile in a coup d’état, with the support of the U.S., that toppled Allende’s democratically elected Unidad Popular government and ended civilian rule.
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On 6 January 2021, backed by a Junta of high-ranking generals in this country loyal to him and a violent, howling, shrieking, screeching mob of blood-thirsty Democrats, Joe Biden seized power in a coup d’etat, and now he has an IRON CURTAIN and STEEL WALL of military might to protect him from the American people, which is what makes him the president – the guns he controls.
After his rise to power, Pinochet persecuted leftists, socialists, and political critics, resulting in the executions of from 1,200 to 3,200 people, the internment of as many as 80,000 people, and the torture of tens of thousands.
After his rise to power, it is quite clear that unlike Pinochet, who Joe Biden resembles in so many other ways, Joe Biden will not be persecuting the leftists and socialists who are his political base and source of political power, but his political critic has better beware, especially if they are white.
And that brings us back around to what is said to have happened behind closed doors in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. at 1:00 P.M. on 6 January 2021, the DAY OF THE DEMOCRAT COUP, when by law, OUR law, not Nancy Pelosi’s law, or Charley “Chuck” Schumer’s law, or Joe Biden’s law, pursuant to 3 U.S. Code § 15 – Counting electoral votes in Congress, which happens to be OUR law that is supposed to apply to everybody in this country including the Democrats on 6 January 2021, but did not thanks to Nancy Pelosi, all the Democrats in the House of Representatives and Senate and all the Republicans in the House of Representatives and Senate were supposed to be meeting in joint session to count electoral college votes pursuant to law.
What we do know for certain is that some Republicans in the House of Representatives and some Republicans in the Senate pursuant 3 U.S. Code § 15 – Counting electoral votes in Congress were going to exercise their lawful duty to their constituents pursuant to so much of that statute which reads as follows:
Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper (from electoral college), the President of the Senate (Pence) shall call for objections, if any.
Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received.
When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted.
No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.
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It is our information and belief that an objection was going to be made concerning Democratic Socialist mayor of Albany Kathy Sheehan being an elector which brings us back to the NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020, where we had as follows:
ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) — In just one week, New York State’s electors will meet to cast their ballots in the Electoral College.
“The electors gather in state capitols across the country, so I have it pretty easy,” Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan said.
“I just have to walk across the street and go to the Capitol.”
Sheehan is one of the electors this year who will be casting a vote for President-elect Joe Biden next Monday.
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It is our information and belief that an objection was going to be made regarding Sheehan as an elector in part because of her very obvious ANTI-AMERICAN position taken with respect the removal of a statue of Revolutionary War hero Philip Schuyler from the capital city of the State of New York, as we see in the New York Daily News article “Cuomo again defends Columbus amid renewed calls to remove statue” by Denis Slattery on June 11, 2020, to wit:
In Albany, Mayor Kathy Sheehan announced Thursday that the state capital will be removing a statue of Revolutionary War general Philip Schuyler because he was a slave owner.
“I have signed an Executive Order directing the removal of the statue honoring Maj. Gen. Philip Schuyler — reportedly the largest owner of enslaved people in Albany during his time — from in front of Albany City Hall,” Sheehan tweeted.
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It is our understanding that that question was going to be put to Pelosi in such a way as to force Pelosi to have to publicly admit that in her opinion, someone who is so obviously ANTI-AMERICAN as Kathy Sheehan is as good a person to elect an American president as anyone else.
As we know, that never happened, because of mob violence and intimidation of those Republicans who were making that objection behind closed doors by Pelosi, who allegedly told them the mob would know who they were and where they lived and Pelosi would make sure the mob followed them home if they objected to Joe Biden being president.
We further believe that an objection was going to be made to Kathy Sheehan as a presidential elector, and rightfully so in my opinion as an American loyal to OUR CONSTITUTION, as opposed to the Democrat party, based on an Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020 wherein Kathy Sheehan told the world that she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement, and that while a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, she says it is time for the nation to embrace that cause.
These people putting forth the objection again wanted to force Pelosi to have to address that issue, with a public statement, which again never happened, thanks to the timely intervention of the mob.
Which takes us back to the NEWS10 ABC article, to wit:
New York is a winner-take-all state, so all of the electors will be for Democratic candidate Joe Biden.
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It is our understanding that an objection was going to be made to all of New York’s votes, as the process is violative of OUR Constitution and deprives citizens of the equal protection of the law.
And what we now know is that the Democrats DID NOT want that to happen, and to stop it from happening, the Democrats first threatened those Republicans with harm, and when they persisted in exercising their legal rights on behalf of their constituents, the Democrats called forth their mob to terrorize and intimidate those Republicans and sow such fear and terror into their hearts that out of fear for their lives, they would submit to Democrat demands and declare Joe Biden the new president of the United States of America, which is exactly what happened, where we had a very fearful and frightened Sen. Kelly Loeffler saying out of fear for her very life that while she had “fully intended to object to the certification of the electoral votes . . . , the events that have transpired today have forced me to reconsider, and I cannot now, in good conscience, object to the certification of these electors.”
And that is how a DEMOCRAT MOB made Joe Biden president of the United States of America on 6 January 2021, a day that will go down in history as a day of infamy in America.
And going back to your post @ January 31, 2021 at 2:25 pm, Useless, you said thusly, to wit:
Please stop this.
Biden and GA Dems won.
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Point I would be that we are FREE American citizens, and so long as there is a very serious CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE as to exactly how it was that Joe Biden was made president of the United States by Nancy Pelosi, a Junta of Generals loyal to Joe Biden, and a screaming, howling mob, the dialogue is not going to stop because you desire a COVER-UP here, not to the theft of an election, but the theft of a nation.
Point II would be that you have no idea of who won in Georgia, all you know is what you are told.
You have no proof that Joe Biden won anything.
Point III would be that it is IMMATERIAL who won the popular vote in Georgia or any other state for that matter because in the United States of America, UNTIL THE CONSTITUTION IS LAWFULLY AMENDED, not changed by an autocrat with an executive order, United States presidents are not elected by the popular vote, whether you like that or not.
Until the Constitution is amended, the method of selecting a president in the United States of America as opposed to South America or Africa is as follows:
12th Amendment
Election of President and Vice President
Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified June 15, 1804.
The 12th Amendment changed a portion of Article II, Section 1.
A portion of the 12th Amendment was changed by the 20th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.
But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice.
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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Do you dispute any of that, Useless?
Do you disagree with it?
Are you of the opinion that if enough young people want to do it a different way, that in a democracy, their way should prevail regardless of a written Constitution, especially a Constitution written by slave-owning, white supremacists who purposefully wrote out a constitution favoring white supremacy to keep the Black man down?
Do you think the U.S. Constitution discriminates against Black people, Useless?
And getting back to the rest of your post, you said, to wit:
Anger, angst and sour grapes only make the situation worse.
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Too true, dude.
So why then do we hear this shrill DRAMA QUEEN AOC going on and on and on and on about almost very nearly being assassinated, and Ted Cruz attempted to murder her?
Talk about anger and angst only making the situation worse, Useless, there you have it in spades, and believe me, it is so very tiresome, how immature that woman is, and can you beleive someone like her is a law maker in this country?
First of all i saw donald trump lose votes live on tv election night. And second did you try to come together with the last administration or did you call everyone a nazi or a russian agent for four years?
Useless, believe me, your screen name suits you to a tee!
Joe Biden is the president of the United States of America today because he was put there by a screaming, howling, bloodthirsty DEMOCRAT mob, period!
In that, Joe Biden is the first DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED president in the history of the United States of America, the first man to be made president by the acclamation of a screaming, howling mob, as opposed to the electoral college, which was a great big ******* joke as we can clearly see by going to a NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020, where we have as follows:
ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) — In just one week, New York State’s electors will meet to cast their ballots in the Electoral College.
“The electors gather in state capitols across the country, so I have it pretty easy,” Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan said.
“I just have to walk across the street and go to the Capitol.”
Sheehan is one of the electors this year who will be casting a vote for President-elect Joe Biden next Monday.
She was also an elector in 2016 for Hillary Clinton.
“We met in the Senate chamber last time.”
“I’m not exactly sure where it’s going to happen this year.”
“Because of social distancing, they’re trying to figure out how we can get everyone together safely.”
“But, obviously, this is an essential thing that needs to happen, and we need to do it in person,” Sheehan said.
New York is a winner-take-all state, so all of the electors will be for Democratic candidate Joe Biden.
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Now, Useless, there is where any legitimacy to the Biden presidency went flying clean out the window, which takes us back to that article, as follows:
“It is not a long process,” Sheehan said.
Sheehan says, four years ago, it took about 30 minutes.
“I’m really looking forward to doing it this year; it’s really an honor and a privilege to be part of this process,” she said.
“It’s a process that I know we’re still continuing to talk about and debate in this country as to whether the Electoral College has really sort of served out its useful life and that we should be looking at a popular vote, but for now, this is what’s constitutionally required, and I will uphold my constitutional obligation and cast my vote,” she said.
Some of the other electors include Governor Andrew Cuomo, Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie, and Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins.
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BULL****, Useless!
And based on that, you actually have the unmitigated gall to come in here and tell os LOYAL AMERICANS that what we need to do is work together with people like yourself to support compromise and bipartisanship?
No ******* way, dude, because your compromise has us giving up our Constitution based on principles of Republicanism to instead adopt your Marxist Democratic one which makes people in this country with white skin into an underclass.
Tell us why we should be so ******* stupid as to do that?
As to the election of the president, Useless, this farcical system we have in place today as described in the NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020 by the thumb-sucking, air-headed Democratic Socialist mayor of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York is far removed from what Alexander Hamilton told us we would have in FEDERALIST No. 68, The Mode of Electing the President, from the New York Packet to the People of the State of New York on Friday, March 14, 1788, it isn’t funny!
And you expect us to want to compromise with you and accept that loss?
Yeah, right!
Getting back to the way it is supposed to be, but as the air Head Kathy Sheehan makes clear, was not, Hamilton started out that important political essay which is one of our foundation documents, as follows:
THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents.
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It was that mode of appointment that was scrapped this year by the DEMOCRAT MOB who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, to put Joe Biden into power by popular acclaim, or ******* else!
Getting back to Federalist No. 68, Useless, it continues as follows:
The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.
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Perhaps then, but as we just saw on 6 January 2021 when the HOWLING DEMOCRAT HORDE assaulted the Capitol to put Joe Biden in power the way the Praetorians put Claudius in power in Rome on January 25, 41 A.D., the old ways in the United States of America are now gone, and we now have a Marxist Democracy in America, instead, which takes us back to Federalist No. 68, to wit:
I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent.
It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.
It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided.
This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
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Now, there is an important statement by Hamilton – that those electors were to be chosen by the people, which is no longer the case today where the choosing each State’s electors is now a two-part process, and where first, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election, and second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State’s electors by casting their ballots.
Except we are choosing who the political parties have given us to choose, which is not really a choice at all, which defeats the purpose of the electoral college as envisioned by Hamilton, to wit:
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
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And that is gone right out the window now, especially today where the electors have to take an oath to stay true to that party’s choice, so that the immediate election is no longer made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
Their choice is governed by the political parties, not the people, which is why we now have been dished up an apparently senile geriatric specimen who raves like a maniac and who mid-sentence forgets what it was he was saying in the first half of the sentence.
Getting back to Hamilton, he goes on as follows:
A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder.
This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States.
But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.
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Except under this party system we are stuck with now, largely out of ignorance by the American people who are merely sheep to be sheared anymore, they don’t, which takes us back to Hamilton as follows:
The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes.
And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption.
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Yeah, right, Al!
In the original scheme of things, it might have been that nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption, but that has gone out the window, as well, so that cabal, intrigue and corruption in the selection of the president is now the order of the day.
Getting back to Hamilton:
These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.
How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?
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And here I have to laugh out loud reading that as I think of the Chinese and Iranians and maybe the Russians and Ukrainians all patting themselves on the back for raising their creature Joe Biden to the chief magistracy of OUR Union, which again takes us back to Hamilton, to wit:
But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention.
They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment.
And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office.
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And more laughing out loud at that because the appointment of the President today depends on a preexisting body of men and women who have been tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes, or they wouldn’t be picked as party electors in the first place.
Hamilton continues from there as follows:
No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias.
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HA HA HA HA HA HAH!
If they are free from bias, they won’t be picked as electors, plain and simple.
Back to Hamilton:
Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it.
The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means.
Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves.
He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence.
This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.
All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President.
Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President.
But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.
The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.
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So, simply stated, IF the electoral college actually functioned the way the so-called “founders” envisioned it working, Joe Biden would never be an American president, no matter how many popular votes he received, because Joe Biden is far too controversial, based on his past statements where without any proof adduced at a trial, and no due process of law offered, Joe Biden denounced the followers of Donald Trump, a sitting president, as the “dregs of society.”
Given his obvious contempt and disdain for those American citizens, there is no way that Joe Biden can be trusted to take care that the laws are enforced, period, which would make him unfit to be an American president, again, regardless of how many popular votes he received, as it would appear that those people who were voting for Joe Biden were doing so on the hope and belief that he would deprive American citizens that they don’t like of their due process rights and equal protection of law.
So today, as we all saw on 6 January 2021, someone can be made president of the United States of America if like Joe Biden, they have a violent, howling mob of supporters backing their action, and like Jo9e Biden, they have campaigned on a platform of depriving some American citizens of protection of law to appease others who follow his standard, and that platform was popular enough with the faction whose rights would not be stripped from them, to give that person the electoral college votes for that state based solely on popularity, and the electoral college will simply rubber-stamp that, which totally perverts OUR Constitution.
And Useless, seriously, dude, do you honestly think we are stupid enough to try to compromise with MARXISTS?
You people are intransigent because of your indoctrination and with you there is no possible “compromise,” only surrender.
And thanks for coming here and making your contribution to the Marketplace of Ideas that is the Cape Charles Mirror, so that we people in this country who are not brain-dead Marxist ideologues and as a result still are able to engage in critical thinking can analyze your political position in detail and thereby educate our fellow citizens as to the fallacies contained therein.
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS ELECTION WAS A FRAUD FROM DAY ONE! I WILL NEVER CALL THE HEAD OF THE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY PRESIDENT! I WILL NEVER CALL “THE LITTLE BLACK GIRL” VICE PRESIDENT!!!
THE DEMORATS CHEATED AND EVERYONE. WITH A BRAIN IN THEIR HEADS KNOWS IT!
FEEL FREE TO FORE OFF AT ME FOLKS!
I DON’T GIVE A ****!!??
Paul Plante is a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth. But lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern.
WOW, IM>U, that sure is some very impressive speechifying there, and you certainly bring the Cape Charles Mirror to a very high intellectual plane with your hilarious reference to myself as, of all things, a Larouchite Democrat, which for those too young to remember these things is a direct reference to notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. (September 8, 1922 – February 12, 2019), who, true to Democrat party traditions, was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader who founded the LaRouche movement and its main organization the National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC).
I find it absolutely hilarious that IM>U would choose to compare me to notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr., who, true to Democrat party traditions, was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader, when there is absolutely nothing in common between us, what with me never having been either a Democrat or a convicted fraudster or an accused cult leader.
As to the notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. who was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader, very much unlike me who am his polar opposite, he became sympathetic to socialist and Marxist movements and ideals in his twenties during World War II and by the 1960s became engaged in increasingly smaller and more radical splinter groups.
During the 1970s he created the foundation of the LaRouche Movement and became more engaged in conspiratorial beliefs and violent and/or illegal activities.
In 1986, his movement reached its height in electoral success when Larouchite candidates won several Democratic primaries for state offices in Illinois.
(The defeated mainstream Democratic candidates ran in the general election as members of the Illinois Solidarity Party; the Larouchite Democrats all finished a distant third.)
Later in the 1980s, criminal investigations led to convictions of several LaRouche movement members, including LaRouche himself.
He was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment, but only served five years.
LaRouche was a perennial candidate for President of the United States.
He ran in every election from 1976 to 2004 as a candidate of third parties established by members of his movement.
He also tried to gain the Democratic presidential nomination.
In 1996, he got 5% of the total nationwide vote in Democratic primaries.
In 2000, he received enough primary votes to qualify for delegates in some states, but ultimately was refused those delegates at the convention.
Which takes us back to IM>U and some very fancy verbiage which reveals IM>U to be a high level political operative for the Democrat party selected to intercede here on their behalf with some obfuscation and misdirection where he calls me, and this is hilarious, as well, a “fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth.”
Truthfully and this is a testament to the erudition and intellectual capacity of IM>U, I haven’t got a clue as to what any of that spew of gibberish is supposed to mean, and since I don’t have the needed intellectual horsepower needed to delve to the bottom, I won’t even try, because how can you really translate gibberish into something with rational meaning?
And then we come to this incredibly complex word structure from IM>U, to wit: But lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern.
To which I can only reply, uh, I guess, if you say so, because you couldn’t say it if in your own fevered mind, where a reality much different than normal people reside in exists, you didn’t think what you were saying was true in that reality you inhabit.
And dude, good luck with your job with the Biden administration and let me close out by expressing my own sincere desire that we will be seeing so much more of you come here to contribute to the MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS in here that make the Cape Charles Mirror the only real GRAND PALLADIUM OF LIBERTY we common people who don’t drink Democrat KOOL-AID, which is made from KA-KA, have to keep us free from Democrat tyranny.
I actually think from the professional use of verbiage and the high intellectual tone of her post above here where she said “Paul Plante is a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth but lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern,” that our guest IM>U, which translates out as “I am greater than you” on her part to me, or “You are so much greater than I” on my part back to her, is in reality none other than Jen Psaki, the chief spokeswoman for Joe Biden who he rescued from political obscurity where she was lingering since Hussein Obama left office.
Part of the reason I personally believe that our guest IM>U is in reality none other than Jen Psaki, is because when she calls me a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, she doesn’t know what the **** she is talking about, all the way around, but says it anyway, which is so much the Jen Psaki I remember from back when our Jen was the chief mouthpiece for Hillary Clinton at the State Department.
If anybody in America could be called a Larouchite Democrat, it would have to be Hussein Obama, himself.
Consider that Democrat Lyndon LaRouche began his political career as a Trotskyist and praised Marxism, but he and the National Caucus of Labor Committees abandoned this ideology in the late 1970s.
According to Tim Wohlforth, during and after his break with Trotskyism, LaRouche’s theory was influenced by what he called his “Theory of Hegemony” derived from Vladimir Lenin’s view of the role of intellectuals in being a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society.
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Vladimir Lenin’s view of the role of intellectuals in being a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society is exactly what the Alinsky training Obama and Hillary Clinton received as “community organizers” was all about, with Hillary and Hussein Obama in fact being those intellectuals as a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society.
LaRouche was influenced by Antonio Gramsci’s concept of hegemony as an intellectual and cultural elite which directs social thought.
That is what Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton saw themselves doing and now, Joe Biden has taken up that mantle of responsibility of filling Obama’s shoes by being an intellectual and cultural elite himself which directs social thought.
Like Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, LaRouche’s theory saw himself and his followers as becoming such a hegemonic force.
He rejected Gramsci’s notion of “organic intellectuals” being developed by the working class itself.
Rather, the working class would be led by elite intellectuals such as himself and in our time, Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton and now, Joe Biden.
LaRouche was influenced by his readings of Rosa Luxemburg’s “The Accumulation of Capital” and Karl Marx’s “Capital” developing his own “theory of reindustrialization”, saying that the West would attempt to industrialize the Third World, particularly India, and attempt to solve the economic crisis both by developing new markets in the Third World and using its cheap and surplus labor to increase profits and minimize costs.
To oppose this, LaRouche argued for a “reindustrialization” of the United States with himself at the vanguard of the effort allowing him to personally resolve the crisis of capitalism.
Though his arguments have since been stripped of their quasi-Marxist language and citations, his core theories have remained essentially the same since the late 1960s.
According to Bronfenbrenner, LaRouche viewed capitalist America as headed for a kind of fascism not much better than that of the Nazis; but he noted that LaRouche’s own vision of socialism, and the trade-off between necessity and freedom in a centrally planned economy, seemed apt to result in the justification of a different kind of dictatorship:
“Judging from his controversial manner, [LaRouche] impresses at least one reader as a Me-for-Dictator type to whom it would be dangerous to entrust the task of drawing any boundary between the domain of freedom and that of necessity or order.”
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And boy, but doesn’t that sound just like Joe Biden to me!
And since IM>U has taken us over into the realm of tin-hat, lunatic fringe conspiracy theories in here, which truly is as great a segue as anybody could hope for, especially these days where TWITTER has pretty much rotted what brains the majority of people in America had left, with his hilarious claim that because I dare to stand up and question the CONSTITUTIONALITY of Nancy Pelosi and a Junta of Generals and a howling mob made Joe Biden president, that I then would have to be a “fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth,” let us cut to the chase of my “conspiracy theory,” by asking this very simple question, to wit:
ON 12 JANUARY 2021, WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
If Section 1 of the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution, titled “Presidential Term and Succession, Assembly of Congress,” passed by Congress March 2, 1932 and ratified January 23, 1933 states that the terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, then on 12 January 2021, who was the president?
Was Donald Trump, as much as anyone might hate him, as do so many in America, the president of the United States of America on 12 January 2021?
Or was Joe Biden actually the president on 12 January 2021, because on 12 January 2021, Nancy Pelosi had officially deposed Trump, and in her capacity as the head of the national government, had ordered Mike Pence, in reference to Trump, to “GET RID OF THE MOTHER******,” as if she were Catherine the Great of Russia picking a new king of Poland?
And speaking of “fringy conspiracy theories” here, this, of course, is the very same Nancy Pelosi who was featured as star attraction in an AP NEWS story entitled “Pelosi unveils 25th Amendment bid, questions Trump’s fitness” by Lisa Mascaro on October 9, 2020, where we hear from the very ditzy Nancy Pelosi as follows:
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled legislation Friday that would allow Congress to intervene under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution to remove the president, insisting it’s not about President Donald Trump but inspired by the need for greater congressional oversight of his White House.
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And having given herself that power for her and her faction to intervene to remove a president they don’t like and they don’t want whenever the mood should strike them, on 12 January 2021, despite the language in the Constitution, Trump was president no longer because Nancy Pelosi had used the power vested in her by the Congressional Democrats to not only remove Trump from office, but to name Joe Biden as his replacement, because of how extraordinary the times were, what with the insurrection and all, and Ted Cruz attempting to murder AOC, and AOC almost very nearly getting assassinated but for the fact that the assassin sent to assassinate her really wasn’t very adept at climbing walls and instead should have opted for the less dramatic way of making an entry by using the stairs as we clearly see in this video:
Getting back to the AP article, it continues thusly:
Pelosi has been raising questions about Trump’s mental fitness since his COVID-19 diagnosis and demanding more transparency about his health.
The bill would set up a commission to assess the president’s ability to lead the country and ensure a continuity of government.
It comes one year after Pelosi’s House launched impeachment proceedings against Trump.
The president’s opponents have discussed invoking the 25th Amendment for some time, but are raising it now, so close to Election Day, as the campaigns are fast turning into a referendum on Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
The legislation that would create a commission as outlined under the 25th Amendment, which was passed by Congress and ratified in 1967 as a way to ensure a continuity of power in the aftermath of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.
It says the vice president and a majority of principal officers of the executive departments “or of such other body as Congress” may by law provide a declaration to Congress that the president “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”
At that point, the vice president would immediately assume the powers of acting president.
“Let Congress exert the power the Constitution gave us,” Pelosi said Friday standing before a poster of the amendment.
Pelosi was joined by Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., a constitutional scholar, who has proposed similar bills in the past.
“In times of chaos we must hold fast to our Constitution,” he said Friday.
Raskin said the commission would be launched “only for the most extreme situations.”
But, as Congress showed by impeaching — and acquitting the president over the past year — the legislative branch is determined to exert itself at times as a check on the executive branch.
“Congress has a role to play,” Raskin said.
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So, the question of the hour: ON 12 JANUARY 2021, WHO WAS THE LAWFUL PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
Clause 2 of Article VI of the United States Constitution states thusly:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
QUESTION: Is the United States Constitution the supreme Law of the Land in the United States of America?
CORRECT ANSWER: No, it is not, because those words are from the WHITE MAN’S CONSTITUTION which was written by a bunch of slave-owning, white supremacist, white nationalist Republican A-HOLES who were trying to steal the soul of America from the Democrats and the people of color who now hold the whip hand so that their BLACK CONSTITUTION, which is a constantly-changing thing of the moment determined by AOC, her squad, Nancy Pelosi and Charley “Chuck” Schumer, is now in full force and effect here in the United States of America, since they now hold the nation’s capital with superior military force, which is how presidential elections are determined in the United States of America now that we have become just one more ****HOLE nation like those commonly found in Africa, where guns and money rule the day with respect to who holds power.
For all of those of you out there not up on the latest slang used by teenagers like lol in this country today to show all the world that not only are they hip, but at the same time they are cool, so they, unlike me, are hip cool, which is far better than ginchiest, which admittedly is pretty dated by now, the expression “triggered” has become a word for those who are easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive, so that what the lol dude is actually saying is that I am easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive when I speak out about Democrats and the people of color now holding the whip hand so that their BLACK CONSTITUTION, which is a constantly-changing thing of the moment determined by AOC, her squad, Nancy Pelosi and Charley “Chuck” Schumer, is now in full force and effect here in the United States of America, since they now hold the nation’s capital with superior military force, which is how presidential elections are determined in the United States of America now that we have become just one more ****HOLE nation like those commonly found in Africa, where guns and money rule the day with respect to who holds power.
And actually, I’m not easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive, because I don’t waste my emotional energy in such a frivolous manner, especially in the light of the CORDON OF STEEL now surrounding what used to be OUR nation’s capital before the coup which toppled the Trump regime and installed Joe Biden as dictator in his place, which leads us to another SEVENTH GRADE CURRENT EVENTS QUIZ just for lol, to wit:
COULD THE NATION THAT ENGINEERED THE 11 SEPTEMBER 1973 COUP WHICH TOPPLED THE DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF SALVADOR ALLENDE IN CHILE TO REPLACE HIM WITH AUGUSTO PINOCHET AS DICTATOR STAGE A SUCCESSFUL COUP IN WASHINGTON. D.C. TO TOPPLE THE REGIME OF DONALD TRUMP IN ORDER TO REPLACE HIM WITH JOE BIDEN AS DICTATOR WITH A NEW CONSTITUTION?
To help lol answer the question, and by way of some necessary background in order to do some comparisons, let’s take a walk over to WIKIPEDIA, where we find as follows:
On 11 September 1973, the combined Chilean Armed Forces (the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Carabineros) overthrew Allende’s government in a coup, during which the presidential palace, La Moneda, was shelled and most likely where Allende was said to have committed suicide.
While the military claimed that he had committed suicide, controversy surrounded Allende’s death, with many claiming that he had been assassinated (such theory was discarded by the Chilean Supreme Court in 2014).
In his memoirs, Pinochet said that he was the leading plotter of the coup and had used his position as commander-in-chief of the Army to coordinate a far-reaching scheme with the other two branches of the military and the national police.
In later years, however, high military officials from the time have said that Pinochet reluctantly became involved only a few days before the coup was scheduled to occur, and followed the lead of the other branches (especially the Navy, under Merino) as they executed the coup.
The new government rounded up thousands of people and held them in the national stadium, where many were killed.
This was followed by brutal repression during Pinochet’s rule, during which approximately 3,000 people were killed, while more than 1,000 are still missing.
In the months that followed the coup, the junta, with authoring work by historian Gonzalo Vial and admiral Patricio Carvajal, published a book titled “El Libro Blanco del cambio de gobierno en Chile” (commonly known as El Libro Blanco, ‘The White Book on the Change of Government in Chile’), in which they said that they were in fact anticipating a self-coup (the alleged Plan Zeta, or Plan Z) that Allende’s government or its associates were purportedly preparing.
United States intelligence agencies believed the plan to be untrue propaganda.
Although later discredited and officially recognized as the product of political propaganda, Gonzalo Vial Correa insists in the similarities between the alleged Plan Z and other existing paramilitary plans of the Popular Unity parties in support of its legitimacy.
Pinochet was also trained by the School of the Americas (SOA) where it is likely he first encountered the ideals of the coup.
Canadian reporter Jean Charpentier of Télévision de Radio-Canada was the first foreign journalist to interview General Pinochet following the coup.
The Church Report investigating the fallout of the Watergate scandal stated that while the U.S. tacitly supported the Pinochet government after the 1973 coup, there was “no evidence” that the US was directly involved in it.
This view has been contradicted by several academics, such as Peter Winn, who writes that the role of the CIA was crucial to the consolidation of power after the coup; the CIA helped fabricate a conspiracy against the Allende government, which Pinochet was then portrayed as preventing.
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Now, hold right here a moment and focus in on that sentence, to wit: the CIA helped fabricate a conspiracy against the Allende government, which Pinochet was then portrayed as preventing.
Getting back to the Chilean coup:
He stated that the coup itself was possible only through a three-year covert operation mounted by the United States.
Winn also points out that the US imposed an “invisible blockade” that was designed to disrupt the economy under Allende, and contributed to the destabilization of the regime.
Author Peter Kornbluh argues in “The Pinochet File” that the US was extensively involved and actively “fomented” the 1973 coup.
Authors Tim Weiner (Legacy of Ashes) and Christopher Hitchens (The Trial of Henry Kissinger) similarly argue the case that US covert actions actively destabilized Allende’s government and set the stage for the 1973 coup.
Despite denial of countless American agencies, current declassified documentation has proven the American involvement.
Nixon and Kissinger, along with both private and public intelligence agencies were “apprised of, and even enmeshed in, the planning and executing of the military takeover.”
Along with this, CIA operatives directly involved, such as Jack Devine, have also come out and declared their involvement in the coup, Devine stating “I sent CIA headquarters a special type of top-secret cable known as a CRITIC, which … goes directly to the highest levels of government.”
The US provided material support to the military government after the coup, although criticizing it in public.
A document released by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 2000, titled “CIA Activities in Chile”, revealed that the CIA actively supported the military junta after the overthrow of Allende, and that it made many of Pinochet’s officers into paid contacts of the CIA or U.S. military, even though some were known to be involved in human rights abuses.
The CIA also maintained contacts in the Chilean DINA intelligence service.
DINA led the multinational campaign known as Operation Condor, which amongst other activities carried out assassinations of prominent politicians in various Latin American countries, in Washington, D.C., and in Europe, and kidnapped, tortured and executed activists holding left-wing views, which culminated in the deaths of roughly 60,000 people.
The United States provided key organizational, financial and technical assistance to the operation.
CIA contact with DINA head Manuel Contreras was established in 1974 soon after the coup, during the Junta period prior to official transfer of Presidential powers to Pinochet; in 1975, the CIA reviewed a warning that keeping Contreras as an asset might threaten human rights in the region.
The CIA chose to keep him as an asset, and at one point even paid him.
In addition to the CIA’s maintaining of assets in DINA beginning soon after the coup, several CIA assets, such as CORU Cuban exile militants Orlando Bosch and Guillermo Novo, collaborated in DINA operations under the Condor Plan in the early years of Pinochet’s presidency.
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So, lol, talk about TIN-HAT CONSPIRACY THEORIES, alright, wouldn’t it really have been a piece of cake, a walk in the park, for the nation that engineered the coup that took out Ngo Dinh Diem in Viet Nam on November 2, 1963 to have engineered that coup we witnessed happening on 6 January 2021 in Washington, D.C. where Donald Trump was deposed, toppled, and replaced with Joe Biden in one of the slickest coups ever?
Paul why are you writing these screeds in the comment section of a very small local newspaper? You should write for a higher institution and get out of comment sections
So yes, compared to the hundred or thousand millions of people all over the globe who tune into FACEBOOK or TWITTER to find out what it is they are supposed to be thinking that day, along with what they are not supposed to be thinking about, the Cape Charles Mirror could be considered small potatoes.
But if it is on the internet, can it really be considered “a very small local newspaper?”
Paul Plantesays
When you say, Lol, and believe me, I am enjoying this conversation, that I should write for a “higher institution,” what would you consider a higher institution?
Like a think tank, perhaps?
Or some big newspaper?
Maybe something like THE NATION?
Why would you not include the Cape Charles Mirror?
Because it posts articles about adopting dogs?
As to “getting out of the comment sections,” which is where I actually enjoy being, because of the intellectual freedom it gives you, do you perchance remember these following li8nes from what was probably a tenth grade class for you, to wit:
Sir, You have had the graciousness, Sir, to come forward as the defender and panegyrist of the plan of a new Constitution, of which you was one of the framers.
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Ringing any bells yet?
To me, that is the kind of opening statement that you are far more likely to come across in here, than is say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, neither of which I bother with because unlike the Cape Charles Mirror, which is about as true public access that you can get, both of those rags want you to pay them to read the drivel they put out.
Getting back to that essay:
If the defence you have thought proper to set up, and the explanations you have been pleased to give, should be found, upon a full and fair examination, to be fallacious or inadequate; I am not without hope, that candor, of which no gentleman talks more, will render you a convert to the opinion, that some material parts of the proposed Constitution are so constructed that a monstrous aristocracy springing from it, must necessarily swallow up the democratic rights of the union, and sacrifice the liberties of the people to the power and domination of a few.
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Again, Lol, that is the kind of verbiage I would expect to encounter in here, and pretty much nowhere else in America today.
Here, I can do the same thing that author is doing – use the media to call out a politician in public, be it Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden, or Charley “Chuck” Schumer, or the very immature and shallow AOL, or Elaine Luria, and through the pages of the Cape Charles Mirror say to them, if your defence of this new plan of power which has the Democrats in complete control of our national government is so very weak, men will begin to think, that the thing itself is indefensible, and then, the beauty of the Cape Charles Mirror is that other people, get to see that and read that, and unlike some drivel posted about AOC in THE NATION, actually get to challenge me., so the topic is developed, not suppressed as it would be on the FASCIST FACEBOOK, which takes us back to that essay as follows:
Upon a subject so momentous, the public has a right to the sentiments of every individual that will reason: I therefore do not think any apology necessary for appearing in print; and I hope to avoid, at least, the indiscriminate censure which you have, with so much candor and liberality, thrown on those who will not worship your idol – “that they are industriously endeavouring to prevent and destroy it, by insidious and clandestine attempts.”
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I post in here, one, because I enjoy the Cape Charles Mirror, and more importantly, because I truly believe that the Cape Charles Mirror, pretty much alone in America that I am aware of, actually adheres to the AMERICAN philosophy of upon the momentous subjects we discuss in here, especially the legitimacy of the Joe Biden presidency where Joe was put in office by a howling mob, and now holds the nation’s capital with superior military force perhaps not seen in Washington since the Army of the Potomac, the public has a right to the sentiments of every individual that will reason, which in here includes yourself, Lol.
And tell me, where else do you see that happening here min the United States of America today where we keep hearing over and over about a “dangerous insurrection” that never was?
As to those words, they are from “Cincinnatus I: To James Wilson, Esquire” on November 1, 1787.
Paul Plantesays
So, back to Lol’s question of why I post here in the Cape Charles Mirror as opposed to writing for a higher institution like THE NATION, for that answer, let’s go to a recent article in THE NATION entitled “Biden’s Executive Orders Are Essential to Restoring Democracy – In the face of GOP attacks on his legitimacy, it’s crucial for Joe Biden to demonstrate who is actually president” by Jeet Heer on January 29, 2021, where we have as follows:
Caricatured by Republicans as “Sleepy Joe,” the new president has started his term with an impressive sprint, issuing a record number of executive orders.
In his first 10 days in office, Biden has signed 24 executive orders.
That’s eight more than the combined total the last five presidents signed in the same period (Donald Trump signed six, Barack Obama five, George W. Bush two, Bill Clinton two and George H.W. Bush one).
Many of Biden’s executive orders are directly aimed at rescinding Trump’s commands.
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So there we have what is called in the media bidness a lede which is the opening sentence or paragraph of a news article, summarizing the most important aspects of the story.
So, out of that lede, how many different ways can we go?
Let’s go back to THE NATION and see:
The New York Times finds this “blistering pace” much too fast.
In an editorial, the newspaper enjoined, “Ease Up on the Executive Action, Joe.”
This editorial is a prime example of the Times’ vulnerability to myopic Mugwumpism, a tendency to focus on small-bore political process while ignoring the actual power dynamics that drive politics.
The Mugwumps — late-19th century reformers — fixated on civil service reform as a panacea for all that ailed America, ignoring battles over Reconstruction and the civil rights of formerly enslaved people.
In a like manner, a persnickety focus on the limits of executive orders makes sense only if one ignores the much larger battles around American democracy.
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A persnickety focus on the limits of executive orders makes sense only if one ignores the much larger battles around American democracy?
Where is the dude going with that, one must wonder, so let’s go back to the article and see:
Earlier this month, Donald Trump egged on a mob to attack Congress in order to thwart the process of even installing Biden as president.
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Now, that is absolute horse**** given that alleged electoral vote count on 6 January 2021 was nothing more than EMPTY RITUAL, because the 12th Amendment to the United States Constitution governing the electoral college no longer had validity where all electoral college votes automatically go to who has the most popular votes, which totally negates and defeats the U.S. Constitution, as intended.
Getting back to the drivel:
Trump and many other Republican elected officials did everything in their power to cast doubt on the legitimacy of Biden’s win.
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Actually, that is more horse****, as it is the American people themselves who are able to make up their own minds about the supposed legitimacy of the Joe Biden presidency, which again takes us back to THE NATION, to wit:
In the context of having his legitimacy called into question, it is crucial for Biden to assert his authority as quickly as possible so that the nation can see he is in fact the president.
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It is crucial for Biden to assert his authority as quickly as possible so that the nation can see he is in fact the president?
That’s humorous, which again takes us back to THE NATION for more, to wit:
Undoing some of Trump’s worst executive orders was also a way for Biden to make clear that he is president.
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I would say that from the CORDON OF STEEL that Joe Biden has surrounding him to keep him safe from the American people, that Joe has made it clear to people that they better treat him as president, or else.
If Joe were somehow presidential, would he need 25,000 heavily-armed troops with tanks and attack helicopters and razor wire to protect him as if he were Saddam Hussein in Iraq?
Something to think about, anyway, which again takes us back to THE NATION:
Biden’s use of executive orders helps bolster democracy in several crucial ways.
First, it shows that elections have consequences — and that the 81 million Americans who helped Biden win the White House deserve to have their views imprinted on government.
Secondly, going after Trump’s executive orders quickly and with the same process Trump used helps show how transitory Trump’s legacy is.
Thirdly, the orders make Biden’s authority visible in a way that defies Republican efforts to delegitimize his presidency.
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Seriously, people, where does this dude come up with pure BULL**** like this?
Besides from his imagination, because we are looking at political fiction here.
What Joe’s flurry of executive orders does, and all Joe’s flurry of executive orders, is to demonstrate that he intends to be a tyrant, a dictator and an absolute ruler, OUR Constitution be damned, which again takes us back to THE NATION:
Biden and congressional Democrats show every sign of pushing ahead with an ambitious stimulus agenda, even if it means stepping on the toes of Republicans.
As Politico reports, “Democrats are vowing to move forward on a new stimulus package as soon as next week, with or without Republicans.”
“Though Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi have not officially said they plan to pursue a party-line approach through budget reconciliation, many Democrats now believe that’s the only way forward.”
Biden’s executive orders aren’t a threat to democracy.
Rather, they spring from an energized Democratic Party that is helping to revitalize American democracy and make it functional again.
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And is there anyone out there in America with a functioning mind who believes that BULL**** being spewed there by THE NATION that Biden’s executive orders aren’t a threat to democracy?
And that’s why I don’t write for THE NATION – because I don’t want to lie to people or sound stupid like you have to to write for THE NATION, as we see from the above.
Lolsays
Also; are these really seventh grade lessons my guy. I don’t know a single seventh grader who knows anything about this
Earlier, actually, when you consider we were discussing world history and current events starting right in kindergarten.
And I’m not surprised today that you can’t find a single seventh grader who knows anything about this.
I seriously doubt if their teachers and parents do, as well.
But there was a time in America, long gone now, when CHILDREN were expected to know all of this and more.
Otherwise, how could it possibly be that I would know all this stuff today, since it is American and world history?
Actually, many of these quizzes I post in here are similar to the questions I had to answer with essay tests and critical thinking and using reason when I was in high school and had to know more than how to spout gibberish on TWITTER as is the case today.
How the times do change, ain’t it?
Paul Plantesays
And recapping recent events here as the DARKNESS of the DEMOCRAT DICTATORSHIP and FASCIST ONE-PARTY RULE rapidly descends on what used to be the United States of America, but is no more, 25 Democrat-controlled states in the United States Senate combined with the office of the executive in the person of vice president Kamala Harris to deny the LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS of 25 other states a voice in the United States Senate.
WHY?
Because those 25 states denied a voice in the Senate DO NOT have DEMOCRAT senators.
Similarly, in the House of Representatives, 221 Democrat-controlled congressional districts formed a combination to deprive and deny the LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS in 211 congressional districts, some 150,021,000 American citizens figuring each one representing approximately 711,000 people, of representation in the House of Representatives.
WHY?
Why were those LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS stripped of a voice in the House of Representatives?
Because those 150,021,000 American citizens in those 211 congressional districts DO NOT have Democrat representation.
The math doesn’t add up plain and simple. You comment to get over it and support the person that did not win. Numbers don’t lie. People do. What happened to the phrase “for the people, by the people”? Why do we even have an election if our vote don’t get counted correctly. You take away our freedom, you take away democracy. That’s is evil and you clearly support it. Hating the opposition doesn’t justify what happened. Authoritarian, communist? If.we.the people did not elect Biden, but rather it was given to him discounting our votes, what does that sound like to you? Whatever it is,.it is not democracy.
George Washington’s famous 1790 quote…“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”.
Thomas Jefferson once said that “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
But, what are We The People going to do about it today?
Don’t you know all that WHITE MAN CRAP you’re quoting from has been tossed out of American history, which now begins when the Africans came here and colonized America and made it the great country it is today by Joe Biden on his first day in office, 20 January 2021, by executive order because all those names you are mentioning belong to the WHITE OPPRESSOR CLASS, which makes them criminals and human rights abusers, so we are not supposed to mention those names in Murka today.
The time-proven Tammany Template for election rigging lives on, and this was the most BULL**** election ever.
Consider that Andy Cuomo, the Democratic Socialist governor of New York, who was one of “Corn Pop” Biden’s electors, was at the very same time the one who certified the integrity of New York state’s election, and all of the electoral college votes in New York state were his to award because he declared New York a winner-take-all state, which meant that whoever won the popular vote had all the electoral college votes handed to him by Andy Cuomo, a Biden elector who certified the election was for Biden, which is about as much pure BULL**** as there can possibly be.
And in support of that statement, let’s go to the website of the USAID, U.S. Agency for International Development, to see what it is that they tell the ****HOLE nations about having free and fair elections, to wit:
Supporting Free and Fair Elections
More than half of the world’s population live under autocratic or partly free governments, denied full civil liberties and unable to freely participate in political life.
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That will be us in this country who are not dues paying, card carrying DEMOCRATS now that the autocracy of Joe Biden, our Joe Stalin, has begun, which takes us to this from that same website:
A country cannot be truly democratic until its citizens have the opportunity to choose their representatives through elections that are free and fair.
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Based on that statement, and how it was that Joe Biden got into the white house supported by some 25,000 heavily armed troops of proven loyalty not to OUR Constitution, but to Joe Biden personally, as it should be in a dictatorship where the ruler, say, Saddam Hussein, or Basher Assad, or Moamar Gaddafi, or in this case Joe Biden, cannot trust the majority of his subjects or so must be kept protected by a virtual ring of steel provided by heavily-armed imperial guards, the United States of America can no longer be considered truly democratic because we citizens no longer have the opportunity to choose our representatives through elections that are free and fair.
We now have BULL**** elections, which takes us back to the USAID for the elements that are essential to fair elections and political processes, where we have, to wit:
* Impartial electoral frameworks
* Credible electoral administration
* Effective oversight of electoral processes
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Without each of those things separately, we cannot be said to have had a free and fair election in 2020, especially with respect to effective oversight of electoral processes, which was totally lacking in New York state this year.
No paper records!
No way to verify who voted or how many times they voted.
Absentee ballots could be filed by anybody for any reason by order of Andy Cuomo.
No ID required at the polling sites.
You went up to somebody who had some type of tablet with no wires attached to it, which means it had to be connected to something through wi-fi, and you told them your name, and they fiddled with the tablet and then showed it to you with a name displayed, and they asked if that was your name, which is not the same as asking “is that you,” which one did in prior years when you physically had to sign a book with your past voting record in it.
And then they told you to sign the tablet with your finger, and all I got was “Paul Pla.”
The screen stayed blank when I tried to complete my signature, and asking others about their experience, they related the same thing.
And where did that all go?
If I wanted to contest that election at that polling place, which formerly was a right, checking the book of who voted against who was registered, etc., it was impossible!
Plain impossible, because who knows where all of that data went.
So with no way to independently audit the polling results, it is impossible to call this anything other than what it was – the most BULL**** presidential election in the history of the nation.
Bottom line – Joe Biden is president because he has the lawyers, guns and money to say he is, just like any other tin pot dictator in some South American or African ****hole, some of which might in fact now have elections that are more free and fair than they are here.
They have stolen the election and no one is doing anything about it. They ‘screwed the pooch’. They will expect you to participate in the next elections so that they may ‘screw the pooch’ again.
The very kindest message We The People could send them is to stop paying taxes for 4 years. The problem is that the IRS has most sheep as nervous as Al Sharpton at a spelling bee.
NOTHING is being done precisely because there is NOTHING that can be done!
You want to move a big rock with a lever, you need a small rock or something solid to use as a fulcrum.
That does not exist.
While the so-called American people were looking every which way but the right way, AOC and BLACK LIVES MATTER marched in right under your noses and stole your Republic away and made it into a Marxist democracy, instead, where the oppressed classes now hold the power, and the oppressor class, which is you, Stuart, is in for a hard ride.
Consider who put Joe Biden into the white house and it was not 80 million American people.
Kathy Sheehan, the Democratic Socialist mayor of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York, a city where the BLACK LIVES MATTER flies over city hall proclaiming it BLACK LIVES MATTER turf, who was quoted in the Albany, New York Times Union story “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020, as saying that she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement, and that while a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, she says it is time for the nation to embrace that cause, was one of Joe Biden’s electors, which is to say, a critical vote for Joe, since he needed electoral college votes, not popular votes, and Joe Biden got Kathy Sheehan’s vote because Joe does embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER.
The math adds up. President Biden received over 7 million more votes than Trump. The ballots have been counted and recounted. The courts have ruled. The electoral college and the Senate have certified, despite the best efforts of a shameful, violent crowd.
A great name you have there, Pam, because when it comes to laughs, you are a HOOT!
And what country are you dialing in from, anyway, with this horse**** you are pedelling here?
The math adds up?
PROVE IT ADDS UP WITHOUT ANY FRAUD?
And don’t bother wasting your time, because you can’t.
All you can do is to mouth an empty and inane phrase – THE MATH ADDS UP! THE MATH ADDS UP! THE MATH ADDS UP! over and over and if somebody doesn’t drink that KOOL-AID, it is my bet that you would get quite violent, maybe try to dig their eyes out with your claws, or tear off their face.
And then we come to this: President Biden received over 7 million more votes than Trump.
SO WHAT, Pam?
In the United States of America with OUR Constitution, not the constitution of whatever country you live in, that means absolutely nothing at all, because according to OUR Constitution, not yours, POPULAR VOTE does not matter!
And how about this: The ballots have been counted and recounted?
Have they really, Pam?
Can you prove that?
Because I can prove that in New York state, a key Biden state where (1) Andy Cuomo was governor in control of the elections; (2) a key Biden elector; and (3) the one who certified the election after being opening up the election to all manner of election fraud, especially with respect to absentee ballots, there was no count and recount.
So it was a BULL**** election, plain and simple, because Andy Cuomo predetermined the outcome and then made it happen.
And what of this: The courts have ruled?
Did they now?
When exactly was it that they ruled that the Democrat-controlled legisature in the corrupt ****hole of New York could suspend OUR state constitution and OUR laws and appoint Andy Cuomo a dictator in fact so that he in turn could declare ALL the electoral college votes in New York state were his alone to dispense to the person of his choice, which DEPRIVED all of us in this ****hole the representation in the election of a president the Constitution guarantees us, but Andy Cuomo denied us?
And the answer is, they never did, so you are either talking through your hat or out your *** or both.
And then we come to this stupid burst of real ignorant horse****, to wit: The electoral college and the Senate have certified, despite the best efforts of a shameful, violent crowd.
Write on the board 500 times:
THERE IS NO ELECTORAL COLLEGE IN AMERICA TODAY; THAT IS A MYTH!
And the Senate didn’t certify, which is more ignorant horse****.
THREE (3) days BEFORE the so-called count of electoral college votes, which would not happen until 6 January 2021, this following sentence attributed to Nancy Pelosi was in an article in THE HILL entitled “Pelosi sets up call on election challenge: ‘No situation matches Trump presidency’” by Joseph Choi on 01/03/21, to wit:
“While there is no doubt as to the outcome of the Biden-Harris presidency, our further success is to convince more of the American people to trust in our democratic system.”
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So, Pam, uh, tell us – HOW did Nancy Pelosi know THREE DAYS in advance what the outcome of something that had not yet happened was going to be?
Isn’t that a lot like a bookie telling you to bet on a knock-out in the fifth round three days before a heavyweight fight?
I would say that the truth of the matter is that all of the violence we saw on 6 January 2021 was staged by Nancy Pelosi to guarantee the disruption she needed to make her prophecy of 3 January 2021 come true, and please, don’t feed us some more bull**** that the Democrats do not use violence as a political tool, because they have been doing so since they lost the insurrection they started back in the 1800’s.
Those were Democrat paramilitaries you saw there doing the violence.
It is Democrats who have the history of attacking police, and you just saw another incident of it on 6 January 2021, and it is clear that THREE DAYS before the violence, Nancy Pelosi knew the violence was going to take place and that as a result, the Republicans would be intimidated enough to have to accept Joe Biden as president, which is exactly what happened.
And I am an AMERICAN, Pam.
I an not a Republican.
I am not a Trump supporter.
I didn’t vote for him and wouldn’t.
And those pathetic clown lawyers Trump had making A-HOLES of themselves in court after court were not arguing for my rights, so the courts clearly have not spoken.
2020 – THE YEAR OF THE BULL**** ELECTION THAT PUT THE MARXISTS IN CONTROL OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
We have a political party that opposes our very existence as a sovereign nation, plus the additional corruption that money can buy. As long as the Democrat Party exists there will be no balanced budget and no real border security. If we build a wall, the moment the Democrats have the political power to do it, they will tear the wall down at our expense. They are a domestic enemy, and unless we face that fact and deal with it, we will continue down a road of slow destruction.
You mean those pathetic clown lawyers Trump had making A-HOLES of themselves in court after court who were not arguing for my rights, so the courts clearly have not spoken?
Pam, you really seem nice, you know, so I am going to take a moment to help you out here, so that in the future, you don’t end up standing out here on the world stage looking like an idiot who put on their pants that morning, but then forgot to pull them up before going out in public.
You would appear far more intelligent, and hence, far less like a moronic idiot, if instead of bleating “FAKE NEWS” like you did above here, which actually makes you sound very much like a Donald Trump clone, you actually took a moment to show the world how something is fake and why something is fake.
That is called a “teaching moment.”
So do yourself and the world a favor by going through my posts and picking them apart to demonstrate to all the candid world what is fake news in my posts.
And even though I think you seem nice, which you do, I’m betting you can’t do it, because if you could, you already would have done so, instead of pulling “Donny Trump” and screeching about FAKE NEWS without ever exposing it as such with FACTS!
George Washington’s famous 1790 quote…“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”.
Please stop lying to your “peers”. You know the election was – pick an adjective. It was riddled with irregularities never seen in an election in history. And on wholesale and multi-state basis. Why do you keep denying that? Every media outlet, social media platform, and court put their fingers in their ears and shut their eyes. The complicity was breathtaking. I am not aware of any court in America – including SCOTUS – that allowed a shred evidence to be heard.
Real bottom line let’s keep america free even if the voter fraud is small it’s still voter fraud and has to be stopped if it is not it will impact our freedom and undermine our whole political process
It for me is not about Trump or Biden winning it is about keeping our Nation free
We elect our leaders it is the principles our Nation was founded on and needs to stay that way it is what makes america great
Real bottom line you sheep will gladly go right back to the same machines they used to steal the last election and cast your votes like nothing ever happened in 2020.
Fools.
Please stop groveling to your “peers”. You know the election was – pick an adjective. It was riddled with irregularities never seen in an election in history. And on wholesale and multi-state basis. Why do you keep denying that? Every media outlet, social media platform, and court put their fingers in their ears and shut their eyes. The complicity was breathtaking. I am not aware of any court in America – including SCOTUS – that allowed a shred evidence to be heard.
useysly says
Please stop this. Biden and GA Dems won.
Anger, angst and sour grapes only make the situation worse. What we need to do is work together to support compromise and bipartisanship – not grumbling about the reality in Congress and the new President.
Paul Plante says
Bottom line, Useless, is that Joe Biden is president solely because like a third-world, banana republic tin-pot dictator, Joe Biden has fortified Washington, D.C. and is holding it with 25,000 heavily-armed troops of sworn loyalty to Joe Biden along with tanks and helicopter gunships and machine guns like our capital was the heavily fortified Green Zone in Iraq that served as the headquarters of successive Iraqi regimes including that of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
That is why we all must accept Joe Biden as president today.
In that, Useless, Joe Biden reminds me very much of Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte (25 November 1915 – 10 December 2006), the Chilean Army General, politician and military dictator who ruled Chile from 1973 to 1990, first as the leader of the Military Junta of Chile from 1973 to 1981, being self-declared President of the Republic by the junta in 1974 and becoming the de facto dictator of Chile, and after from 1981 to 1990 as de jure President after a new Constitution, who confirmed him in the office, was approved by a referendum in 1980.
Do you remember Augusto Pinochet, Useless?
Augusto Pinochet rose through the ranks of the Chilean Army to become General Chief of Staff in early 1972 before being appointed its Commander-in-Chief on 23 August 1973 by President Salvador Allende.
On 11 September 1973, Pinochet seized power in Chile in a coup d’état, with the support of the U.S., that toppled Allende’s democratically elected Unidad Popular government and ended civilian rule.
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On 6 January 2021, backed by a Junta of high-ranking generals in this country loyal to him and a violent, howling, shrieking, screeching mob of blood-thirsty Democrats, Joe Biden seized power in a coup d’etat, and now he has an IRON CURTAIN and STEEL WALL of military might to protect him from the American people, which is what makes him the president – the guns he controls.
After his rise to power, Pinochet persecuted leftists, socialists, and political critics, resulting in the executions of from 1,200 to 3,200 people, the internment of as many as 80,000 people, and the torture of tens of thousands.
After his rise to power, it is quite clear that unlike Pinochet, who Joe Biden resembles in so many other ways, Joe Biden will not be persecuting the leftists and socialists who are his political base and source of political power, but his political critic has better beware, especially if they are white.
And that brings us back around to what is said to have happened behind closed doors in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. at 1:00 P.M. on 6 January 2021, the DAY OF THE DEMOCRAT COUP, when by law, OUR law, not Nancy Pelosi’s law, or Charley “Chuck” Schumer’s law, or Joe Biden’s law, pursuant to 3 U.S. Code § 15 – Counting electoral votes in Congress, which happens to be OUR law that is supposed to apply to everybody in this country including the Democrats on 6 January 2021, but did not thanks to Nancy Pelosi, all the Democrats in the House of Representatives and Senate and all the Republicans in the House of Representatives and Senate were supposed to be meeting in joint session to count electoral college votes pursuant to law.
What we do know for certain is that some Republicans in the House of Representatives and some Republicans in the Senate pursuant 3 U.S. Code § 15 – Counting electoral votes in Congress were going to exercise their lawful duty to their constituents pursuant to so much of that statute which reads as follows:
Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper (from electoral college), the President of the Senate (Pence) shall call for objections, if any.
Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received.
When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted.
No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.
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It is our information and belief that an objection was going to be made concerning Democratic Socialist mayor of Albany Kathy Sheehan being an elector which brings us back to the NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020, where we had as follows:
ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) — In just one week, New York State’s electors will meet to cast their ballots in the Electoral College.
“The electors gather in state capitols across the country, so I have it pretty easy,” Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan said.
“I just have to walk across the street and go to the Capitol.”
Sheehan is one of the electors this year who will be casting a vote for President-elect Joe Biden next Monday.
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It is our information and belief that an objection was going to be made regarding Sheehan as an elector in part because of her very obvious ANTI-AMERICAN position taken with respect the removal of a statue of Revolutionary War hero Philip Schuyler from the capital city of the State of New York, as we see in the New York Daily News article “Cuomo again defends Columbus amid renewed calls to remove statue” by Denis Slattery on June 11, 2020, to wit:
In Albany, Mayor Kathy Sheehan announced Thursday that the state capital will be removing a statue of Revolutionary War general Philip Schuyler because he was a slave owner.
“I have signed an Executive Order directing the removal of the statue honoring Maj. Gen. Philip Schuyler — reportedly the largest owner of enslaved people in Albany during his time — from in front of Albany City Hall,” Sheehan tweeted.
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It is our understanding that that question was going to be put to Pelosi in such a way as to force Pelosi to have to publicly admit that in her opinion, someone who is so obviously ANTI-AMERICAN as Kathy Sheehan is as good a person to elect an American president as anyone else.
As we know, that never happened, because of mob violence and intimidation of those Republicans who were making that objection behind closed doors by Pelosi, who allegedly told them the mob would know who they were and where they lived and Pelosi would make sure the mob followed them home if they objected to Joe Biden being president.
We further believe that an objection was going to be made to Kathy Sheehan as a presidential elector, and rightfully so in my opinion as an American loyal to OUR CONSTITUTION, as opposed to the Democrat party, based on an Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020 wherein Kathy Sheehan told the world that she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement, and that while a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, she says it is time for the nation to embrace that cause.
These people putting forth the objection again wanted to force Pelosi to have to address that issue, with a public statement, which again never happened, thanks to the timely intervention of the mob.
Which takes us back to the NEWS10 ABC article, to wit:
New York is a winner-take-all state, so all of the electors will be for Democratic candidate Joe Biden.
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It is our understanding that an objection was going to be made to all of New York’s votes, as the process is violative of OUR Constitution and deprives citizens of the equal protection of the law.
And what we now know is that the Democrats DID NOT want that to happen, and to stop it from happening, the Democrats first threatened those Republicans with harm, and when they persisted in exercising their legal rights on behalf of their constituents, the Democrats called forth their mob to terrorize and intimidate those Republicans and sow such fear and terror into their hearts that out of fear for their lives, they would submit to Democrat demands and declare Joe Biden the new president of the United States of America, which is exactly what happened, where we had a very fearful and frightened Sen. Kelly Loeffler saying out of fear for her very life that while she had “fully intended to object to the certification of the electoral votes . . . , the events that have transpired today have forced me to reconsider, and I cannot now, in good conscience, object to the certification of these electors.”
And that is how a DEMOCRAT MOB made Joe Biden president of the United States of America on 6 January 2021, a day that will go down in history as a day of infamy in America.
Paul Plante says
useysly says
And going back to your post @ January 31, 2021 at 2:25 pm, Useless, you said thusly, to wit:
Please stop this.
Biden and GA Dems won.
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Point I would be that we are FREE American citizens, and so long as there is a very serious CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE as to exactly how it was that Joe Biden was made president of the United States by Nancy Pelosi, a Junta of Generals loyal to Joe Biden, and a screaming, howling mob, the dialogue is not going to stop because you desire a COVER-UP here, not to the theft of an election, but the theft of a nation.
Point II would be that you have no idea of who won in Georgia, all you know is what you are told.
You have no proof that Joe Biden won anything.
Point III would be that it is IMMATERIAL who won the popular vote in Georgia or any other state for that matter because in the United States of America, UNTIL THE CONSTITUTION IS LAWFULLY AMENDED, not changed by an autocrat with an executive order, United States presidents are not elected by the popular vote, whether you like that or not.
Until the Constitution is amended, the method of selecting a president in the United States of America as opposed to South America or Africa is as follows:
12th Amendment
Election of President and Vice President
Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified June 15, 1804.
The 12th Amendment changed a portion of Article II, Section 1.
A portion of the 12th Amendment was changed by the 20th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.
But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice.
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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Do you dispute any of that, Useless?
Do you disagree with it?
Are you of the opinion that if enough young people want to do it a different way, that in a democracy, their way should prevail regardless of a written Constitution, especially a Constitution written by slave-owning, white supremacists who purposefully wrote out a constitution favoring white supremacy to keep the Black man down?
Do you think the U.S. Constitution discriminates against Black people, Useless?
And getting back to the rest of your post, you said, to wit:
Anger, angst and sour grapes only make the situation worse.
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Too true, dude.
So why then do we hear this shrill DRAMA QUEEN AOC going on and on and on and on about almost very nearly being assassinated, and Ted Cruz attempted to murder her?
Talk about anger and angst only making the situation worse, Useless, there you have it in spades, and believe me, it is so very tiresome, how immature that woman is, and can you beleive someone like her is a law maker in this country?
Marspi says
Are you smarter than all the math experts that say it was rigged?
Catherine Nottingham says
ELECTION FRAUD… STOLEN ELECTION…
“USEYSLY”= useful idiot
There will never be bipartisan support for all the stolen elections
or the Biden Crime Family.
Stuart Bell says
Thomas Jefferson once said that “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Stuart Bell says
You Sir, are a damned fool.
D says
First of all i saw donald trump lose votes live on tv election night. And second did you try to come together with the last administration or did you call everyone a nazi or a russian agent for four years?
Paul Plante says
Useless, believe me, your screen name suits you to a tee!
Joe Biden is the president of the United States of America today because he was put there by a screaming, howling, bloodthirsty DEMOCRAT mob, period!
In that, Joe Biden is the first DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED president in the history of the United States of America, the first man to be made president by the acclamation of a screaming, howling mob, as opposed to the electoral college, which was a great big ******* joke as we can clearly see by going to a NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020, where we have as follows:
ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) — In just one week, New York State’s electors will meet to cast their ballots in the Electoral College.
“The electors gather in state capitols across the country, so I have it pretty easy,” Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan said.
“I just have to walk across the street and go to the Capitol.”
Sheehan is one of the electors this year who will be casting a vote for President-elect Joe Biden next Monday.
She was also an elector in 2016 for Hillary Clinton.
“We met in the Senate chamber last time.”
“I’m not exactly sure where it’s going to happen this year.”
“Because of social distancing, they’re trying to figure out how we can get everyone together safely.”
“But, obviously, this is an essential thing that needs to happen, and we need to do it in person,” Sheehan said.
New York is a winner-take-all state, so all of the electors will be for Democratic candidate Joe Biden.
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Now, Useless, there is where any legitimacy to the Biden presidency went flying clean out the window, which takes us back to that article, as follows:
“It is not a long process,” Sheehan said.
Sheehan says, four years ago, it took about 30 minutes.
“I’m really looking forward to doing it this year; it’s really an honor and a privilege to be part of this process,” she said.
“It’s a process that I know we’re still continuing to talk about and debate in this country as to whether the Electoral College has really sort of served out its useful life and that we should be looking at a popular vote, but for now, this is what’s constitutionally required, and I will uphold my constitutional obligation and cast my vote,” she said.
Some of the other electors include Governor Andrew Cuomo, Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie, and Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins.
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BULL****, Useless!
And based on that, you actually have the unmitigated gall to come in here and tell os LOYAL AMERICANS that what we need to do is work together with people like yourself to support compromise and bipartisanship?
No ******* way, dude, because your compromise has us giving up our Constitution based on principles of Republicanism to instead adopt your Marxist Democratic one which makes people in this country with white skin into an underclass.
Tell us why we should be so ******* stupid as to do that?
As to the election of the president, Useless, this farcical system we have in place today as described in the NEWS10 ABC article entitled “NY electors to cast ballots in one week for 2020 presidential election” by Corina Cappabianca on Dec. 7, 2020 by the thumb-sucking, air-headed Democratic Socialist mayor of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York is far removed from what Alexander Hamilton told us we would have in FEDERALIST No. 68, The Mode of Electing the President, from the New York Packet to the People of the State of New York on Friday, March 14, 1788, it isn’t funny!
And you expect us to want to compromise with you and accept that loss?
Yeah, right!
Getting back to the way it is supposed to be, but as the air Head Kathy Sheehan makes clear, was not, Hamilton started out that important political essay which is one of our foundation documents, as follows:
THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents.
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It was that mode of appointment that was scrapped this year by the DEMOCRAT MOB who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, to put Joe Biden into power by popular acclaim, or ******* else!
Getting back to Federalist No. 68, Useless, it continues as follows:
The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.
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Perhaps then, but as we just saw on 6 January 2021 when the HOWLING DEMOCRAT HORDE assaulted the Capitol to put Joe Biden in power the way the Praetorians put Claudius in power in Rome on January 25, 41 A.D., the old ways in the United States of America are now gone, and we now have a Marxist Democracy in America, instead, which takes us back to Federalist No. 68, to wit:
I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent.
It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.
It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided.
This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
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Now, there is an important statement by Hamilton – that those electors were to be chosen by the people, which is no longer the case today where the choosing each State’s electors is now a two-part process, and where first, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election, and second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State’s electors by casting their ballots.
Except we are choosing who the political parties have given us to choose, which is not really a choice at all, which defeats the purpose of the electoral college as envisioned by Hamilton, to wit:
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
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And that is gone right out the window now, especially today where the electors have to take an oath to stay true to that party’s choice, so that the immediate election is no longer made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
Their choice is governed by the political parties, not the people, which is why we now have been dished up an apparently senile geriatric specimen who raves like a maniac and who mid-sentence forgets what it was he was saying in the first half of the sentence.
Getting back to Hamilton, he goes on as follows:
A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder.
This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States.
But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.
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Except under this party system we are stuck with now, largely out of ignorance by the American people who are merely sheep to be sheared anymore, they don’t, which takes us back to Hamilton as follows:
The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes.
And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption.
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Yeah, right, Al!
In the original scheme of things, it might have been that nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption, but that has gone out the window, as well, so that cabal, intrigue and corruption in the selection of the president is now the order of the day.
Getting back to Hamilton:
These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.
How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?
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And here I have to laugh out loud reading that as I think of the Chinese and Iranians and maybe the Russians and Ukrainians all patting themselves on the back for raising their creature Joe Biden to the chief magistracy of OUR Union, which again takes us back to Hamilton, to wit:
But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention.
They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment.
And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office.
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And more laughing out loud at that because the appointment of the President today depends on a preexisting body of men and women who have been tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes, or they wouldn’t be picked as party electors in the first place.
Hamilton continues from there as follows:
No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias.
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HA HA HA HA HA HAH!
If they are free from bias, they won’t be picked as electors, plain and simple.
Back to Hamilton:
Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it.
The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means.
Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves.
He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence.
This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.
All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President.
Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President.
But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.
The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.
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So, simply stated, IF the electoral college actually functioned the way the so-called “founders” envisioned it working, Joe Biden would never be an American president, no matter how many popular votes he received, because Joe Biden is far too controversial, based on his past statements where without any proof adduced at a trial, and no due process of law offered, Joe Biden denounced the followers of Donald Trump, a sitting president, as the “dregs of society.”
Given his obvious contempt and disdain for those American citizens, there is no way that Joe Biden can be trusted to take care that the laws are enforced, period, which would make him unfit to be an American president, again, regardless of how many popular votes he received, as it would appear that those people who were voting for Joe Biden were doing so on the hope and belief that he would deprive American citizens that they don’t like of their due process rights and equal protection of law.
So today, as we all saw on 6 January 2021, someone can be made president of the United States of America if like Joe Biden, they have a violent, howling mob of supporters backing their action, and like Jo9e Biden, they have campaigned on a platform of depriving some American citizens of protection of law to appease others who follow his standard, and that platform was popular enough with the faction whose rights would not be stripped from them, to give that person the electoral college votes for that state based solely on popularity, and the electoral college will simply rubber-stamp that, which totally perverts OUR Constitution.
And Useless, seriously, dude, do you honestly think we are stupid enough to try to compromise with MARXISTS?
You people are intransigent because of your indoctrination and with you there is no possible “compromise,” only surrender.
And thanks for coming here and making your contribution to the Marketplace of Ideas that is the Cape Charles Mirror, so that we people in this country who are not brain-dead Marxist ideologues and as a result still are able to engage in critical thinking can analyze your political position in detail and thereby educate our fellow citizens as to the fallacies contained therein.
Deborah A. Bender says
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS ELECTION WAS A FRAUD FROM DAY ONE! I WILL NEVER CALL THE HEAD OF THE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY PRESIDENT! I WILL NEVER CALL “THE LITTLE BLACK GIRL” VICE PRESIDENT!!!
THE DEMORATS CHEATED AND EVERYONE. WITH A BRAIN IN THEIR HEADS KNOWS IT!
FEEL FREE TO FORE OFF AT ME FOLKS!
I DON’T GIVE A ****!!??
Stuart Bell says
HEAR!!!!!!!! HEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IM>U says
Paul Plante is a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth. But lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern.
Publius Americanus says
Emu, go smoke some pot and rage at the walls of your dorm.
Paul Plante says
WOW, IM>U, that sure is some very impressive speechifying there, and you certainly bring the Cape Charles Mirror to a very high intellectual plane with your hilarious reference to myself as, of all things, a Larouchite Democrat, which for those too young to remember these things is a direct reference to notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. (September 8, 1922 – February 12, 2019), who, true to Democrat party traditions, was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader who founded the LaRouche movement and its main organization the National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC).
I find it absolutely hilarious that IM>U would choose to compare me to notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr., who, true to Democrat party traditions, was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader, when there is absolutely nothing in common between us, what with me never having been either a Democrat or a convicted fraudster or an accused cult leader.
As to the notorious Democrat Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. who was an American political activist, convicted fraudster, and accused cult leader, very much unlike me who am his polar opposite, he became sympathetic to socialist and Marxist movements and ideals in his twenties during World War II and by the 1960s became engaged in increasingly smaller and more radical splinter groups.
During the 1970s he created the foundation of the LaRouche Movement and became more engaged in conspiratorial beliefs and violent and/or illegal activities.
In 1986, his movement reached its height in electoral success when Larouchite candidates won several Democratic primaries for state offices in Illinois.
(The defeated mainstream Democratic candidates ran in the general election as members of the Illinois Solidarity Party; the Larouchite Democrats all finished a distant third.)
Later in the 1980s, criminal investigations led to convictions of several LaRouche movement members, including LaRouche himself.
He was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment, but only served five years.
LaRouche was a perennial candidate for President of the United States.
He ran in every election from 1976 to 2004 as a candidate of third parties established by members of his movement.
He also tried to gain the Democratic presidential nomination.
In 1996, he got 5% of the total nationwide vote in Democratic primaries.
In 2000, he received enough primary votes to qualify for delegates in some states, but ultimately was refused those delegates at the convention.
Which takes us back to IM>U and some very fancy verbiage which reveals IM>U to be a high level political operative for the Democrat party selected to intercede here on their behalf with some obfuscation and misdirection where he calls me, and this is hilarious, as well, a “fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth.”
Truthfully and this is a testament to the erudition and intellectual capacity of IM>U, I haven’t got a clue as to what any of that spew of gibberish is supposed to mean, and since I don’t have the needed intellectual horsepower needed to delve to the bottom, I won’t even try, because how can you really translate gibberish into something with rational meaning?
And then we come to this incredibly complex word structure from IM>U, to wit: But lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern.
To which I can only reply, uh, I guess, if you say so, because you couldn’t say it if in your own fevered mind, where a reality much different than normal people reside in exists, you didn’t think what you were saying was true in that reality you inhabit.
And dude, good luck with your job with the Biden administration and let me close out by expressing my own sincere desire that we will be seeing so much more of you come here to contribute to the MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS in here that make the Cape Charles Mirror the only real GRAND PALLADIUM OF LIBERTY we common people who don’t drink Democrat KOOL-AID, which is made from KA-KA, have to keep us free from Democrat tyranny.
Paul Plante says
IM>U translates out as “I am greater than you.”
Paul Plante says
I actually think from the professional use of verbiage and the high intellectual tone of her post above here where she said “Paul Plante is a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth but lacking in factual detail, ultimately they all remain meaningless, without substance, and unworthy of any serious concern,” that our guest IM>U, which translates out as “I am greater than you” on her part to me, or “You are so much greater than I” on my part back to her, is in reality none other than Jen Psaki, the chief spokeswoman for Joe Biden who he rescued from political obscurity where she was lingering since Hussein Obama left office.
Part of the reason I personally believe that our guest IM>U is in reality none other than Jen Psaki, is because when she calls me a Larouchite Democrat, a fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, she doesn’t know what the **** she is talking about, all the way around, but says it anyway, which is so much the Jen Psaki I remember from back when our Jen was the chief mouthpiece for Hillary Clinton at the State Department.
If anybody in America could be called a Larouchite Democrat, it would have to be Hussein Obama, himself.
Consider that Democrat Lyndon LaRouche began his political career as a Trotskyist and praised Marxism, but he and the National Caucus of Labor Committees abandoned this ideology in the late 1970s.
According to Tim Wohlforth, during and after his break with Trotskyism, LaRouche’s theory was influenced by what he called his “Theory of Hegemony” derived from Vladimir Lenin’s view of the role of intellectuals in being a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society.
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Vladimir Lenin’s view of the role of intellectuals in being a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society is exactly what the Alinsky training Obama and Hillary Clinton received as “community organizers” was all about, with Hillary and Hussein Obama in fact being those intellectuals as a vanguard helping workers develop their consciousness and realize their leading role in society.
LaRouche was influenced by Antonio Gramsci’s concept of hegemony as an intellectual and cultural elite which directs social thought.
That is what Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton saw themselves doing and now, Joe Biden has taken up that mantle of responsibility of filling Obama’s shoes by being an intellectual and cultural elite himself which directs social thought.
Like Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, LaRouche’s theory saw himself and his followers as becoming such a hegemonic force.
He rejected Gramsci’s notion of “organic intellectuals” being developed by the working class itself.
Rather, the working class would be led by elite intellectuals such as himself and in our time, Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton and now, Joe Biden.
LaRouche was influenced by his readings of Rosa Luxemburg’s “The Accumulation of Capital” and Karl Marx’s “Capital” developing his own “theory of reindustrialization”, saying that the West would attempt to industrialize the Third World, particularly India, and attempt to solve the economic crisis both by developing new markets in the Third World and using its cheap and surplus labor to increase profits and minimize costs.
To oppose this, LaRouche argued for a “reindustrialization” of the United States with himself at the vanguard of the effort allowing him to personally resolve the crisis of capitalism.
Though his arguments have since been stripped of their quasi-Marxist language and citations, his core theories have remained essentially the same since the late 1960s.
According to Bronfenbrenner, LaRouche viewed capitalist America as headed for a kind of fascism not much better than that of the Nazis; but he noted that LaRouche’s own vision of socialism, and the trade-off between necessity and freedom in a centrally planned economy, seemed apt to result in the justification of a different kind of dictatorship:
“Judging from his controversial manner, [LaRouche] impresses at least one reader as a Me-for-Dictator type to whom it would be dangerous to entrust the task of drawing any boundary between the domain of freedom and that of necessity or order.”
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And boy, but doesn’t that sound just like Joe Biden to me!
Stuart Bell says
He is a Vet, you would do well to show him some respect.
Paul Plante says
And since IM>U has taken us over into the realm of tin-hat, lunatic fringe conspiracy theories in here, which truly is as great a segue as anybody could hope for, especially these days where TWITTER has pretty much rotted what brains the majority of people in America had left, with his hilarious claim that because I dare to stand up and question the CONSTITUTIONALITY of Nancy Pelosi and a Junta of Generals and a howling mob made Joe Biden president, that I then would have to be a “fringy conspiracist with a knack for placing anything and everything into some sort of nationalistic framework, seemingly giving his statements depth,” let us cut to the chase of my “conspiracy theory,” by asking this very simple question, to wit:
ON 12 JANUARY 2021, WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
If Section 1 of the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution, titled “Presidential Term and Succession, Assembly of Congress,” passed by Congress March 2, 1932 and ratified January 23, 1933 states that the terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, then on 12 January 2021, who was the president?
Was Donald Trump, as much as anyone might hate him, as do so many in America, the president of the United States of America on 12 January 2021?
Or was Joe Biden actually the president on 12 January 2021, because on 12 January 2021, Nancy Pelosi had officially deposed Trump, and in her capacity as the head of the national government, had ordered Mike Pence, in reference to Trump, to “GET RID OF THE MOTHER******,” as if she were Catherine the Great of Russia picking a new king of Poland?
And speaking of “fringy conspiracy theories” here, this, of course, is the very same Nancy Pelosi who was featured as star attraction in an AP NEWS story entitled “Pelosi unveils 25th Amendment bid, questions Trump’s fitness” by Lisa Mascaro on October 9, 2020, where we hear from the very ditzy Nancy Pelosi as follows:
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled legislation Friday that would allow Congress to intervene under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution to remove the president, insisting it’s not about President Donald Trump but inspired by the need for greater congressional oversight of his White House.
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And having given herself that power for her and her faction to intervene to remove a president they don’t like and they don’t want whenever the mood should strike them, on 12 January 2021, despite the language in the Constitution, Trump was president no longer because Nancy Pelosi had used the power vested in her by the Congressional Democrats to not only remove Trump from office, but to name Joe Biden as his replacement, because of how extraordinary the times were, what with the insurrection and all, and Ted Cruz attempting to murder AOC, and AOC almost very nearly getting assassinated but for the fact that the assassin sent to assassinate her really wasn’t very adept at climbing walls and instead should have opted for the less dramatic way of making an entry by using the stairs as we clearly see in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_uKKY-_VpY
Getting back to the AP article, it continues thusly:
Pelosi has been raising questions about Trump’s mental fitness since his COVID-19 diagnosis and demanding more transparency about his health.
The bill would set up a commission to assess the president’s ability to lead the country and ensure a continuity of government.
It comes one year after Pelosi’s House launched impeachment proceedings against Trump.
The president’s opponents have discussed invoking the 25th Amendment for some time, but are raising it now, so close to Election Day, as the campaigns are fast turning into a referendum on Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
The legislation that would create a commission as outlined under the 25th Amendment, which was passed by Congress and ratified in 1967 as a way to ensure a continuity of power in the aftermath of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.
It says the vice president and a majority of principal officers of the executive departments “or of such other body as Congress” may by law provide a declaration to Congress that the president “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”
At that point, the vice president would immediately assume the powers of acting president.
“Let Congress exert the power the Constitution gave us,” Pelosi said Friday standing before a poster of the amendment.
Pelosi was joined by Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., a constitutional scholar, who has proposed similar bills in the past.
“In times of chaos we must hold fast to our Constitution,” he said Friday.
Raskin said the commission would be launched “only for the most extreme situations.”
But, as Congress showed by impeaching — and acquitting the president over the past year — the legislative branch is determined to exert itself at times as a check on the executive branch.
“Congress has a role to play,” Raskin said.
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So, the question of the hour: ON 12 JANUARY 2021, WHO WAS THE LAWFUL PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
Paul Plante says
SEVENTH GRADE CIVICS QUIZ:
Clause 2 of Article VI of the United States Constitution states thusly:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
QUESTION: Is the United States Constitution the supreme Law of the Land in the United States of America?
CORRECT ANSWER: No, it is not, because those words are from the WHITE MAN’S CONSTITUTION which was written by a bunch of slave-owning, white supremacist, white nationalist Republican A-HOLES who were trying to steal the soul of America from the Democrats and the people of color who now hold the whip hand so that their BLACK CONSTITUTION, which is a constantly-changing thing of the moment determined by AOC, her squad, Nancy Pelosi and Charley “Chuck” Schumer, is now in full force and effect here in the United States of America, since they now hold the nation’s capital with superior military force, which is how presidential elections are determined in the United States of America now that we have become just one more ****HOLE nation like those commonly found in Africa, where guns and money rule the day with respect to who holds power.
lol says
Paul is triggered!
Paul Plante says
For all of those of you out there not up on the latest slang used by teenagers like lol in this country today to show all the world that not only are they hip, but at the same time they are cool, so they, unlike me, are hip cool, which is far better than ginchiest, which admittedly is pretty dated by now, the expression “triggered” has become a word for those who are easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive, so that what the lol dude is actually saying is that I am easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive when I speak out about Democrats and the people of color now holding the whip hand so that their BLACK CONSTITUTION, which is a constantly-changing thing of the moment determined by AOC, her squad, Nancy Pelosi and Charley “Chuck” Schumer, is now in full force and effect here in the United States of America, since they now hold the nation’s capital with superior military force, which is how presidential elections are determined in the United States of America now that we have become just one more ****HOLE nation like those commonly found in Africa, where guns and money rule the day with respect to who holds power.
And actually, I’m not easily offended, shocked at something, or being sensitive, because I don’t waste my emotional energy in such a frivolous manner, especially in the light of the CORDON OF STEEL now surrounding what used to be OUR nation’s capital before the coup which toppled the Trump regime and installed Joe Biden as dictator in his place, which leads us to another SEVENTH GRADE CURRENT EVENTS QUIZ just for lol, to wit:
COULD THE NATION THAT ENGINEERED THE 11 SEPTEMBER 1973 COUP WHICH TOPPLED THE DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF SALVADOR ALLENDE IN CHILE TO REPLACE HIM WITH AUGUSTO PINOCHET AS DICTATOR STAGE A SUCCESSFUL COUP IN WASHINGTON. D.C. TO TOPPLE THE REGIME OF DONALD TRUMP IN ORDER TO REPLACE HIM WITH JOE BIDEN AS DICTATOR WITH A NEW CONSTITUTION?
To help lol answer the question, and by way of some necessary background in order to do some comparisons, let’s take a walk over to WIKIPEDIA, where we find as follows:
On 11 September 1973, the combined Chilean Armed Forces (the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Carabineros) overthrew Allende’s government in a coup, during which the presidential palace, La Moneda, was shelled and most likely where Allende was said to have committed suicide.
While the military claimed that he had committed suicide, controversy surrounded Allende’s death, with many claiming that he had been assassinated (such theory was discarded by the Chilean Supreme Court in 2014).
In his memoirs, Pinochet said that he was the leading plotter of the coup and had used his position as commander-in-chief of the Army to coordinate a far-reaching scheme with the other two branches of the military and the national police.
In later years, however, high military officials from the time have said that Pinochet reluctantly became involved only a few days before the coup was scheduled to occur, and followed the lead of the other branches (especially the Navy, under Merino) as they executed the coup.
The new government rounded up thousands of people and held them in the national stadium, where many were killed.
This was followed by brutal repression during Pinochet’s rule, during which approximately 3,000 people were killed, while more than 1,000 are still missing.
In the months that followed the coup, the junta, with authoring work by historian Gonzalo Vial and admiral Patricio Carvajal, published a book titled “El Libro Blanco del cambio de gobierno en Chile” (commonly known as El Libro Blanco, ‘The White Book on the Change of Government in Chile’), in which they said that they were in fact anticipating a self-coup (the alleged Plan Zeta, or Plan Z) that Allende’s government or its associates were purportedly preparing.
United States intelligence agencies believed the plan to be untrue propaganda.
Although later discredited and officially recognized as the product of political propaganda, Gonzalo Vial Correa insists in the similarities between the alleged Plan Z and other existing paramilitary plans of the Popular Unity parties in support of its legitimacy.
Pinochet was also trained by the School of the Americas (SOA) where it is likely he first encountered the ideals of the coup.
Canadian reporter Jean Charpentier of Télévision de Radio-Canada was the first foreign journalist to interview General Pinochet following the coup.
The Church Report investigating the fallout of the Watergate scandal stated that while the U.S. tacitly supported the Pinochet government after the 1973 coup, there was “no evidence” that the US was directly involved in it.
This view has been contradicted by several academics, such as Peter Winn, who writes that the role of the CIA was crucial to the consolidation of power after the coup; the CIA helped fabricate a conspiracy against the Allende government, which Pinochet was then portrayed as preventing.
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Now, hold right here a moment and focus in on that sentence, to wit: the CIA helped fabricate a conspiracy against the Allende government, which Pinochet was then portrayed as preventing.
Getting back to the Chilean coup:
He stated that the coup itself was possible only through a three-year covert operation mounted by the United States.
Winn also points out that the US imposed an “invisible blockade” that was designed to disrupt the economy under Allende, and contributed to the destabilization of the regime.
Author Peter Kornbluh argues in “The Pinochet File” that the US was extensively involved and actively “fomented” the 1973 coup.
Authors Tim Weiner (Legacy of Ashes) and Christopher Hitchens (The Trial of Henry Kissinger) similarly argue the case that US covert actions actively destabilized Allende’s government and set the stage for the 1973 coup.
Despite denial of countless American agencies, current declassified documentation has proven the American involvement.
Nixon and Kissinger, along with both private and public intelligence agencies were “apprised of, and even enmeshed in, the planning and executing of the military takeover.”
Along with this, CIA operatives directly involved, such as Jack Devine, have also come out and declared their involvement in the coup, Devine stating “I sent CIA headquarters a special type of top-secret cable known as a CRITIC, which … goes directly to the highest levels of government.”
The US provided material support to the military government after the coup, although criticizing it in public.
A document released by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 2000, titled “CIA Activities in Chile”, revealed that the CIA actively supported the military junta after the overthrow of Allende, and that it made many of Pinochet’s officers into paid contacts of the CIA or U.S. military, even though some were known to be involved in human rights abuses.
The CIA also maintained contacts in the Chilean DINA intelligence service.
DINA led the multinational campaign known as Operation Condor, which amongst other activities carried out assassinations of prominent politicians in various Latin American countries, in Washington, D.C., and in Europe, and kidnapped, tortured and executed activists holding left-wing views, which culminated in the deaths of roughly 60,000 people.
The United States provided key organizational, financial and technical assistance to the operation.
CIA contact with DINA head Manuel Contreras was established in 1974 soon after the coup, during the Junta period prior to official transfer of Presidential powers to Pinochet; in 1975, the CIA reviewed a warning that keeping Contreras as an asset might threaten human rights in the region.
The CIA chose to keep him as an asset, and at one point even paid him.
In addition to the CIA’s maintaining of assets in DINA beginning soon after the coup, several CIA assets, such as CORU Cuban exile militants Orlando Bosch and Guillermo Novo, collaborated in DINA operations under the Condor Plan in the early years of Pinochet’s presidency.
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So, lol, talk about TIN-HAT CONSPIRACY THEORIES, alright, wouldn’t it really have been a piece of cake, a walk in the park, for the nation that engineered the coup that took out Ngo Dinh Diem in Viet Nam on November 2, 1963 to have engineered that coup we witnessed happening on 6 January 2021 in Washington, D.C. where Donald Trump was deposed, toppled, and replaced with Joe Biden in one of the slickest coups ever?
Lol says
Paul why are you writing these screeds in the comment section of a very small local newspaper? You should write for a higher institution and get out of comment sections
Paul Plante says
Excellent questions, Lol, very timely and important questions. actually.
First of all, IS the Cape Charles Mirror really “a very small local newspaper?”
Consider the post entitled “Cape Charles Mirror Reaches 2 Million Views” on November 22, 2020 http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/cape-charles-mirror-reaches-2-million-views/ .
So yes, compared to the hundred or thousand millions of people all over the globe who tune into FACEBOOK or TWITTER to find out what it is they are supposed to be thinking that day, along with what they are not supposed to be thinking about, the Cape Charles Mirror could be considered small potatoes.
But if it is on the internet, can it really be considered “a very small local newspaper?”
Paul Plante says
When you say, Lol, and believe me, I am enjoying this conversation, that I should write for a “higher institution,” what would you consider a higher institution?
Like a think tank, perhaps?
Or some big newspaper?
Maybe something like THE NATION?
Why would you not include the Cape Charles Mirror?
Because it posts articles about adopting dogs?
As to “getting out of the comment sections,” which is where I actually enjoy being, because of the intellectual freedom it gives you, do you perchance remember these following li8nes from what was probably a tenth grade class for you, to wit:
Sir, You have had the graciousness, Sir, to come forward as the defender and panegyrist of the plan of a new Constitution, of which you was one of the framers.
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Ringing any bells yet?
To me, that is the kind of opening statement that you are far more likely to come across in here, than is say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, neither of which I bother with because unlike the Cape Charles Mirror, which is about as true public access that you can get, both of those rags want you to pay them to read the drivel they put out.
Getting back to that essay:
If the defence you have thought proper to set up, and the explanations you have been pleased to give, should be found, upon a full and fair examination, to be fallacious or inadequate; I am not without hope, that candor, of which no gentleman talks more, will render you a convert to the opinion, that some material parts of the proposed Constitution are so constructed that a monstrous aristocracy springing from it, must necessarily swallow up the democratic rights of the union, and sacrifice the liberties of the people to the power and domination of a few.
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Again, Lol, that is the kind of verbiage I would expect to encounter in here, and pretty much nowhere else in America today.
Here, I can do the same thing that author is doing – use the media to call out a politician in public, be it Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden, or Charley “Chuck” Schumer, or the very immature and shallow AOL, or Elaine Luria, and through the pages of the Cape Charles Mirror say to them, if your defence of this new plan of power which has the Democrats in complete control of our national government is so very weak, men will begin to think, that the thing itself is indefensible, and then, the beauty of the Cape Charles Mirror is that other people, get to see that and read that, and unlike some drivel posted about AOC in THE NATION, actually get to challenge me., so the topic is developed, not suppressed as it would be on the FASCIST FACEBOOK, which takes us back to that essay as follows:
Upon a subject so momentous, the public has a right to the sentiments of every individual that will reason: I therefore do not think any apology necessary for appearing in print; and I hope to avoid, at least, the indiscriminate censure which you have, with so much candor and liberality, thrown on those who will not worship your idol – “that they are industriously endeavouring to prevent and destroy it, by insidious and clandestine attempts.”
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I post in here, one, because I enjoy the Cape Charles Mirror, and more importantly, because I truly believe that the Cape Charles Mirror, pretty much alone in America that I am aware of, actually adheres to the AMERICAN philosophy of upon the momentous subjects we discuss in here, especially the legitimacy of the Joe Biden presidency where Joe was put in office by a howling mob, and now holds the nation’s capital with superior military force perhaps not seen in Washington since the Army of the Potomac, the public has a right to the sentiments of every individual that will reason, which in here includes yourself, Lol.
And tell me, where else do you see that happening here min the United States of America today where we keep hearing over and over about a “dangerous insurrection” that never was?
As to those words, they are from “Cincinnatus I: To James Wilson, Esquire” on November 1, 1787.
Paul Plante says
So, back to Lol’s question of why I post here in the Cape Charles Mirror as opposed to writing for a higher institution like THE NATION, for that answer, let’s go to a recent article in THE NATION entitled “Biden’s Executive Orders Are Essential to Restoring Democracy – In the face of GOP attacks on his legitimacy, it’s crucial for Joe Biden to demonstrate who is actually president” by Jeet Heer on January 29, 2021, where we have as follows:
Caricatured by Republicans as “Sleepy Joe,” the new president has started his term with an impressive sprint, issuing a record number of executive orders.
In his first 10 days in office, Biden has signed 24 executive orders.
That’s eight more than the combined total the last five presidents signed in the same period (Donald Trump signed six, Barack Obama five, George W. Bush two, Bill Clinton two and George H.W. Bush one).
Many of Biden’s executive orders are directly aimed at rescinding Trump’s commands.
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So there we have what is called in the media bidness a lede which is the opening sentence or paragraph of a news article, summarizing the most important aspects of the story.
So, out of that lede, how many different ways can we go?
Let’s go back to THE NATION and see:
The New York Times finds this “blistering pace” much too fast.
In an editorial, the newspaper enjoined, “Ease Up on the Executive Action, Joe.”
This editorial is a prime example of the Times’ vulnerability to myopic Mugwumpism, a tendency to focus on small-bore political process while ignoring the actual power dynamics that drive politics.
The Mugwumps — late-19th century reformers — fixated on civil service reform as a panacea for all that ailed America, ignoring battles over Reconstruction and the civil rights of formerly enslaved people.
In a like manner, a persnickety focus on the limits of executive orders makes sense only if one ignores the much larger battles around American democracy.
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A persnickety focus on the limits of executive orders makes sense only if one ignores the much larger battles around American democracy?
Where is the dude going with that, one must wonder, so let’s go back to the article and see:
Earlier this month, Donald Trump egged on a mob to attack Congress in order to thwart the process of even installing Biden as president.
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Now, that is absolute horse**** given that alleged electoral vote count on 6 January 2021 was nothing more than EMPTY RITUAL, because the 12th Amendment to the United States Constitution governing the electoral college no longer had validity where all electoral college votes automatically go to who has the most popular votes, which totally negates and defeats the U.S. Constitution, as intended.
Getting back to the drivel:
Trump and many other Republican elected officials did everything in their power to cast doubt on the legitimacy of Biden’s win.
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Actually, that is more horse****, as it is the American people themselves who are able to make up their own minds about the supposed legitimacy of the Joe Biden presidency, which again takes us back to THE NATION, to wit:
In the context of having his legitimacy called into question, it is crucial for Biden to assert his authority as quickly as possible so that the nation can see he is in fact the president.
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It is crucial for Biden to assert his authority as quickly as possible so that the nation can see he is in fact the president?
That’s humorous, which again takes us back to THE NATION for more, to wit:
Undoing some of Trump’s worst executive orders was also a way for Biden to make clear that he is president.
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I would say that from the CORDON OF STEEL that Joe Biden has surrounding him to keep him safe from the American people, that Joe has made it clear to people that they better treat him as president, or else.
If Joe were somehow presidential, would he need 25,000 heavily-armed troops with tanks and attack helicopters and razor wire to protect him as if he were Saddam Hussein in Iraq?
Something to think about, anyway, which again takes us back to THE NATION:
Biden’s use of executive orders helps bolster democracy in several crucial ways.
First, it shows that elections have consequences — and that the 81 million Americans who helped Biden win the White House deserve to have their views imprinted on government.
Secondly, going after Trump’s executive orders quickly and with the same process Trump used helps show how transitory Trump’s legacy is.
Thirdly, the orders make Biden’s authority visible in a way that defies Republican efforts to delegitimize his presidency.
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Seriously, people, where does this dude come up with pure BULL**** like this?
Besides from his imagination, because we are looking at political fiction here.
What Joe’s flurry of executive orders does, and all Joe’s flurry of executive orders, is to demonstrate that he intends to be a tyrant, a dictator and an absolute ruler, OUR Constitution be damned, which again takes us back to THE NATION:
Biden and congressional Democrats show every sign of pushing ahead with an ambitious stimulus agenda, even if it means stepping on the toes of Republicans.
As Politico reports, “Democrats are vowing to move forward on a new stimulus package as soon as next week, with or without Republicans.”
“Though Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi have not officially said they plan to pursue a party-line approach through budget reconciliation, many Democrats now believe that’s the only way forward.”
Biden’s executive orders aren’t a threat to democracy.
Rather, they spring from an energized Democratic Party that is helping to revitalize American democracy and make it functional again.
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And is there anyone out there in America with a functioning mind who believes that BULL**** being spewed there by THE NATION that Biden’s executive orders aren’t a threat to democracy?
And that’s why I don’t write for THE NATION – because I don’t want to lie to people or sound stupid like you have to to write for THE NATION, as we see from the above.
Lol says
Also; are these really seventh grade lessons my guy. I don’t know a single seventh grader who knows anything about this
Paul Plante says
They certainly were when I was in seventh grade.
Earlier, actually, when you consider we were discussing world history and current events starting right in kindergarten.
And I’m not surprised today that you can’t find a single seventh grader who knows anything about this.
I seriously doubt if their teachers and parents do, as well.
But there was a time in America, long gone now, when CHILDREN were expected to know all of this and more.
Otherwise, how could it possibly be that I would know all this stuff today, since it is American and world history?
Actually, many of these quizzes I post in here are similar to the questions I had to answer with essay tests and critical thinking and using reason when I was in high school and had to know more than how to spout gibberish on TWITTER as is the case today.
How the times do change, ain’t it?
Paul Plante says
And recapping recent events here as the DARKNESS of the DEMOCRAT DICTATORSHIP and FASCIST ONE-PARTY RULE rapidly descends on what used to be the United States of America, but is no more, 25 Democrat-controlled states in the United States Senate combined with the office of the executive in the person of vice president Kamala Harris to deny the LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS of 25 other states a voice in the United States Senate.
WHY?
Because those 25 states denied a voice in the Senate DO NOT have DEMOCRAT senators.
Similarly, in the House of Representatives, 221 Democrat-controlled congressional districts formed a combination to deprive and deny the LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS in 211 congressional districts, some 150,021,000 American citizens figuring each one representing approximately 711,000 people, of representation in the House of Representatives.
WHY?
Why were those LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS stripped of a voice in the House of Representatives?
Because those 150,021,000 American citizens in those 211 congressional districts DO NOT have Democrat representation.
Brian Albrecht says
The math doesn’t add up plain and simple. You comment to get over it and support the person that did not win. Numbers don’t lie. People do. What happened to the phrase “for the people, by the people”? Why do we even have an election if our vote don’t get counted correctly. You take away our freedom, you take away democracy. That’s is evil and you clearly support it. Hating the opposition doesn’t justify what happened. Authoritarian, communist? If.we.the people did not elect Biden, but rather it was given to him discounting our votes, what does that sound like to you? Whatever it is,.it is not democracy.
Slide-Easy says
George Washington’s famous 1790 quote…“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”.
Thomas Jefferson once said that “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
But, what are We The People going to do about it today?
Paul Plante says
WHO?
Don’t you know they no longer exist?
Don’t you know all that WHITE MAN CRAP you’re quoting from has been tossed out of American history, which now begins when the Africans came here and colonized America and made it the great country it is today by Joe Biden on his first day in office, 20 January 2021, by executive order because all those names you are mentioning belong to the WHITE OPPRESSOR CLASS, which makes them criminals and human rights abusers, so we are not supposed to mention those names in Murka today.
Paul Plante says
Oh, but it most certainly is DEMOCRACY!
Democrat-style democracy, anyway.
The time-proven Tammany Template for election rigging lives on, and this was the most BULL**** election ever.
Consider that Andy Cuomo, the Democratic Socialist governor of New York, who was one of “Corn Pop” Biden’s electors, was at the very same time the one who certified the integrity of New York state’s election, and all of the electoral college votes in New York state were his to award because he declared New York a winner-take-all state, which meant that whoever won the popular vote had all the electoral college votes handed to him by Andy Cuomo, a Biden elector who certified the election was for Biden, which is about as much pure BULL**** as there can possibly be.
And in support of that statement, let’s go to the website of the USAID, U.S. Agency for International Development, to see what it is that they tell the ****HOLE nations about having free and fair elections, to wit:
Supporting Free and Fair Elections
More than half of the world’s population live under autocratic or partly free governments, denied full civil liberties and unable to freely participate in political life.
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That will be us in this country who are not dues paying, card carrying DEMOCRATS now that the autocracy of Joe Biden, our Joe Stalin, has begun, which takes us to this from that same website:
A country cannot be truly democratic until its citizens have the opportunity to choose their representatives through elections that are free and fair.
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Based on that statement, and how it was that Joe Biden got into the white house supported by some 25,000 heavily armed troops of proven loyalty not to OUR Constitution, but to Joe Biden personally, as it should be in a dictatorship where the ruler, say, Saddam Hussein, or Basher Assad, or Moamar Gaddafi, or in this case Joe Biden, cannot trust the majority of his subjects or so must be kept protected by a virtual ring of steel provided by heavily-armed imperial guards, the United States of America can no longer be considered truly democratic because we citizens no longer have the opportunity to choose our representatives through elections that are free and fair.
We now have BULL**** elections, which takes us back to the USAID for the elements that are essential to fair elections and political processes, where we have, to wit:
* Impartial electoral frameworks
* Credible electoral administration
* Effective oversight of electoral processes
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Without each of those things separately, we cannot be said to have had a free and fair election in 2020, especially with respect to effective oversight of electoral processes, which was totally lacking in New York state this year.
No paper records!
No way to verify who voted or how many times they voted.
Absentee ballots could be filed by anybody for any reason by order of Andy Cuomo.
No ID required at the polling sites.
You went up to somebody who had some type of tablet with no wires attached to it, which means it had to be connected to something through wi-fi, and you told them your name, and they fiddled with the tablet and then showed it to you with a name displayed, and they asked if that was your name, which is not the same as asking “is that you,” which one did in prior years when you physically had to sign a book with your past voting record in it.
And then they told you to sign the tablet with your finger, and all I got was “Paul Pla.”
The screen stayed blank when I tried to complete my signature, and asking others about their experience, they related the same thing.
And where did that all go?
If I wanted to contest that election at that polling place, which formerly was a right, checking the book of who voted against who was registered, etc., it was impossible!
Plain impossible, because who knows where all of that data went.
So with no way to independently audit the polling results, it is impossible to call this anything other than what it was – the most BULL**** presidential election in the history of the nation.
Bottom line – Joe Biden is president because he has the lawyers, guns and money to say he is, just like any other tin pot dictator in some South American or African ****hole, some of which might in fact now have elections that are more free and fair than they are here.
Stuart Bell says
They have stolen the election and no one is doing anything about it. They ‘screwed the pooch’. They will expect you to participate in the next elections so that they may ‘screw the pooch’ again.
The very kindest message We The People could send them is to stop paying taxes for 4 years. The problem is that the IRS has most sheep as nervous as Al Sharpton at a spelling bee.
Paul Plante says
NOTHING is being done precisely because there is NOTHING that can be done!
You want to move a big rock with a lever, you need a small rock or something solid to use as a fulcrum.
That does not exist.
While the so-called American people were looking every which way but the right way, AOC and BLACK LIVES MATTER marched in right under your noses and stole your Republic away and made it into a Marxist democracy, instead, where the oppressed classes now hold the power, and the oppressor class, which is you, Stuart, is in for a hard ride.
Consider who put Joe Biden into the white house and it was not 80 million American people.
Kathy Sheehan, the Democratic Socialist mayor of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York, a city where the BLACK LIVES MATTER flies over city hall proclaiming it BLACK LIVES MATTER turf, who was quoted in the Albany, New York Times Union story “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020, as saying that she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement, and that while a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, she says it is time for the nation to embrace that cause, was one of Joe Biden’s electors, which is to say, a critical vote for Joe, since he needed electoral college votes, not popular votes, and Joe Biden got Kathy Sheehan’s vote because Joe does embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER.
And BLACK LIVES MATTER is MARXIST!
Welcome to the new world order and cue the Internationale as the new American anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTE3sMM2H9I )
Pam Laff says
The math adds up. President Biden received over 7 million more votes than Trump. The ballots have been counted and recounted. The courts have ruled. The electoral college and the Senate have certified, despite the best efforts of a shameful, violent crowd.
Paul Plante says
A great name you have there, Pam, because when it comes to laughs, you are a HOOT!
And what country are you dialing in from, anyway, with this horse**** you are pedelling here?
The math adds up?
PROVE IT ADDS UP WITHOUT ANY FRAUD?
And don’t bother wasting your time, because you can’t.
All you can do is to mouth an empty and inane phrase – THE MATH ADDS UP! THE MATH ADDS UP! THE MATH ADDS UP! over and over and if somebody doesn’t drink that KOOL-AID, it is my bet that you would get quite violent, maybe try to dig their eyes out with your claws, or tear off their face.
And then we come to this: President Biden received over 7 million more votes than Trump.
SO WHAT, Pam?
In the United States of America with OUR Constitution, not the constitution of whatever country you live in, that means absolutely nothing at all, because according to OUR Constitution, not yours, POPULAR VOTE does not matter!
And how about this: The ballots have been counted and recounted?
Have they really, Pam?
Can you prove that?
Because I can prove that in New York state, a key Biden state where (1) Andy Cuomo was governor in control of the elections; (2) a key Biden elector; and (3) the one who certified the election after being opening up the election to all manner of election fraud, especially with respect to absentee ballots, there was no count and recount.
So it was a BULL**** election, plain and simple, because Andy Cuomo predetermined the outcome and then made it happen.
And what of this: The courts have ruled?
Did they now?
When exactly was it that they ruled that the Democrat-controlled legisature in the corrupt ****hole of New York could suspend OUR state constitution and OUR laws and appoint Andy Cuomo a dictator in fact so that he in turn could declare ALL the electoral college votes in New York state were his alone to dispense to the person of his choice, which DEPRIVED all of us in this ****hole the representation in the election of a president the Constitution guarantees us, but Andy Cuomo denied us?
And the answer is, they never did, so you are either talking through your hat or out your *** or both.
And then we come to this stupid burst of real ignorant horse****, to wit: The electoral college and the Senate have certified, despite the best efforts of a shameful, violent crowd.
Write on the board 500 times:
THERE IS NO ELECTORAL COLLEGE IN AMERICA TODAY; THAT IS A MYTH!
And the Senate didn’t certify, which is more ignorant horse****.
THREE (3) days BEFORE the so-called count of electoral college votes, which would not happen until 6 January 2021, this following sentence attributed to Nancy Pelosi was in an article in THE HILL entitled “Pelosi sets up call on election challenge: ‘No situation matches Trump presidency’” by Joseph Choi on 01/03/21, to wit:
“While there is no doubt as to the outcome of the Biden-Harris presidency, our further success is to convince more of the American people to trust in our democratic system.”
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So, Pam, uh, tell us – HOW did Nancy Pelosi know THREE DAYS in advance what the outcome of something that had not yet happened was going to be?
Isn’t that a lot like a bookie telling you to bet on a knock-out in the fifth round three days before a heavyweight fight?
I would say that the truth of the matter is that all of the violence we saw on 6 January 2021 was staged by Nancy Pelosi to guarantee the disruption she needed to make her prophecy of 3 January 2021 come true, and please, don’t feed us some more bull**** that the Democrats do not use violence as a political tool, because they have been doing so since they lost the insurrection they started back in the 1800’s.
Paul Plante says
BECAUSE of a shameful, violent crowd, Pam.
Those were Democrat paramilitaries you saw there doing the violence.
It is Democrats who have the history of attacking police, and you just saw another incident of it on 6 January 2021, and it is clear that THREE DAYS before the violence, Nancy Pelosi knew the violence was going to take place and that as a result, the Republicans would be intimidated enough to have to accept Joe Biden as president, which is exactly what happened.
And I am an AMERICAN, Pam.
I an not a Republican.
I am not a Trump supporter.
I didn’t vote for him and wouldn’t.
And those pathetic clown lawyers Trump had making A-HOLES of themselves in court after court were not arguing for my rights, so the courts clearly have not spoken.
2020 – THE YEAR OF THE BULL**** ELECTION THAT PUT THE MARXISTS IN CONTROL OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
(Cue theme song of the Communist Internationale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTE3sMM2H9I )
The kneelers, haters and flag burners now own America.
Does that make you feel good about yourself, Pam?
Does that make you feel all warm and squishy inside?
Pam Laff says
FAKE NEWS, Paul.
Note: When moronic trolls quote President Trump.
Paul Laff says
Here is some truth for you, you liberal witch:
We have a political party that opposes our very existence as a sovereign nation, plus the additional corruption that money can buy. As long as the Democrat Party exists there will be no balanced budget and no real border security. If we build a wall, the moment the Democrats have the political power to do it, they will tear the wall down at our expense. They are a domestic enemy, and unless we face that fact and deal with it, we will continue down a road of slow destruction.
A Friend says
Excellent encapsulation of who The Left is Paul!
Paul Plante says
Fake News, Pam?
You mean those pathetic clown lawyers Trump had making A-HOLES of themselves in court after court who were not arguing for my rights, so the courts clearly have not spoken?
That’s hardly fake news.
That’s very factual.
Paul Plante says
Pam, you really seem nice, you know, so I am going to take a moment to help you out here, so that in the future, you don’t end up standing out here on the world stage looking like an idiot who put on their pants that morning, but then forgot to pull them up before going out in public.
You would appear far more intelligent, and hence, far less like a moronic idiot, if instead of bleating “FAKE NEWS” like you did above here, which actually makes you sound very much like a Donald Trump clone, you actually took a moment to show the world how something is fake and why something is fake.
That is called a “teaching moment.”
So do yourself and the world a favor by going through my posts and picking them apart to demonstrate to all the candid world what is fake news in my posts.
And even though I think you seem nice, which you do, I’m betting you can’t do it, because if you could, you already would have done so, instead of pulling “Donny Trump” and screeching about FAKE NEWS without ever exposing it as such with FACTS!
Publius Americanus says
Portland?Seattle?NYC? Which violent leftist filth are you referring to?
The ballots were never counted. They were manipulated-read the Time article where they BRAG about it-, nor have any courts ruled on it.
Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
Stuart Bell says
George Washington’s famous 1790 quote…“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”.
Stuart Bell says
Please stop lying to your “peers”. You know the election was – pick an adjective. It was riddled with irregularities never seen in an election in history. And on wholesale and multi-state basis. Why do you keep denying that? Every media outlet, social media platform, and court put their fingers in their ears and shut their eyes. The complicity was breathtaking. I am not aware of any court in America – including SCOTUS – that allowed a shred evidence to be heard.
Stinger9898 says
Real bottom line let’s keep america free even if the voter fraud is small it’s still voter fraud and has to be stopped if it is not it will impact our freedom and undermine our whole political process
It for me is not about Trump or Biden winning it is about keeping our Nation free
We elect our leaders it is the principles our Nation was founded on and needs to stay that way it is what makes america great
Stuart Bell says
Real bottom line you sheep will gladly go right back to the same machines they used to steal the last election and cast your votes like nothing ever happened in 2020.
Fools.
Please stop groveling to your “peers”. You know the election was – pick an adjective. It was riddled with irregularities never seen in an election in history. And on wholesale and multi-state basis. Why do you keep denying that? Every media outlet, social media platform, and court put their fingers in their ears and shut their eyes. The complicity was breathtaking. I am not aware of any court in America – including SCOTUS – that allowed a shred evidence to be heard.
Stuart Bell says
White Supremacy / Systemic Racism = Hoax
Biden = Bi-Partisan Globalist Puppet
(Bilderberg, Council On Foreign Relations)