January 18, 2025

48 thoughts on “Just Say It, “Covid Vaccines Don’t Work that Well”

  1. All those who would rather take the risk of injecting themselves with an experimental concoction instead of just getting natural immunity may find that the risks are greater than the so-called cure. Why are so many healthy young people dropping dead after getting the boosters? Do the research, don’t buy the lies of those who are profiting from the fear!

    1. Say it like you see it!

      And for anyone interested in further informing themselves and educating themselves, instead of being manipulated and made hysterical by Fauci and BIG PHARM and their lackeys in the captive media so your mind freezes up and you can’t think straight (fear is the mind-killer), take a moment to read this excerpt from the CNBC article “Why do some people get Covid when others don’t? Here’s what we know so far” by Holly Ellyatt on February 3, 2022 where we all were informed as follows as to something many of us who are sane and rational and lucid and don’t drink Fauci or Biden or BIG PHARM KOOL-AID already were well aware of, and wondering why so many other people weren’t and still aren’t:

      One of the great mysteries that has emerged from the Covid-19 pandemic — and one that’s still being investigated by infectious disease specialists — is why some people catch Covid and others don’t, even when they’re equally exposed to the virus.

      Many of us know entire households who caught Covid and had to isolate over the pandemic, but there are also multiple anecdotes of couples, families and colleagues where some people caught the virus — but not everyone.

      Indeed, Danny Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London, told CNBC that studies indicate the likelihood of becoming infected within a household once one case is positive is “not as high as you’d imagine.”

      ‘Never Covid’ people

      An increasing amount of research is being devoted to the reasons why some people never seem to get Covid — a so-called never Covid cohort.

      Last month, new research was published by Imperial College London suggesting that people with higher levels of T cells (a type of cell in the immune system) from common cold coronaviruses were less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.

      Dr. Rhia Kundu, first author of the study from Imperial’s National Heart and Lung Institute, said that “being exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus doesn’t always result in infection, and we’ve been keen to understand why.”

      “We found that high levels of pre-existing T cells, created by the body when infected with other human coronaviruses like the common cold, can protect against Covid-19 infection,” she said.

          1. Unfortunately, Paul, only you and the idiots don’t believe it’s a vaccine because you don’t understand what a vaccine is. I gave you the definition but you choose to ignore it.

            As said before your opinion doesn’t make it fact.

          2. I understand that the polio vaccine I get was a vaccine because I didn’t get polio afterwards, which was the purpose of getting the vaccine.

            I don’t know about the idiots you are referencing there, but that is what I understand a vaccine to be.

            On the other hand, every day in VEET NAM I took a malaria pill, because even an idiot knew there was no vaccine for malaria, which is why the pill every day, and the pill was merely a daily preventative …

            Like this horsepiss you mistake for a real vaccine …

            Talk about somebody being like the sheep, going along with the flow and being led by others as to what to think, you’re there, dude!

        1. CNBC

          “Why do some people get Covid when others don’t? Here’s what we know so far”

          By Holly Ellyatt

          February 3, 2022

          Covid vaccines have been proven to reduce severe infections, hospitalizations and deaths, and remain largely effective against known variants of the virus.

          However, they are not 100% effective in preventing infection and the immunity they provide wanes over time, and has been somewhat compromised by the omicron variant.

          “We know that many people have still caught (mostly mild) omicron infection despite being full vaccinated, including [having had] a booster.”

          end quotes

          QED: They are not vaccines because they do not keep you safe from what you have ben supposedly
          vaccinated against!

          Or at least sane, rational and lucid people who aren’t hysterical, indoctrinated and brain-dead as a result know that!

        2. Uh, J Wheaton, wasn’t it BIG PHARM that gave us thalidomide?

          You remember Thalidomide, don’t you?

          Thalidomide was a widely used drug in the late 1950s and early 1960s for the treatment of nausea in pregnant women.

          It became apparent in the 1960s that thalidomide treatment resulted in severe birth defects in thousands of children.

          And now they are going to stick this horsepiss into the arms of six-month old children, which I think is obscene.

          Why?

          Because their mothers are demanding it!

          Incredible!

          1. LOL, nice attempt at a come back but you still haven’t answered the question – who creates the vaccine if its not big pharma?

            This isn’t 1940 anymore Paul, your corner chemist isn’t going to make a compound for you. Did ya think Flemming made penicillin in his basement?

            Your rage against big pharma is quite missed placed. In fact, you are like the sheep, go along with the flow being lead by others what to think.

          2. HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW, J Wheaton!

            Great lines!

            Worth a real good laugh they were, and if you really want to keep your T-cells up and running in tip-top shape, laughter is the best medicine so thanks for a healthy dose of it right there.

            Loved that line about “you are like the sheep, go along with the flow being lead by others what to think.”

            If that were the actual case, I would be one of the triple vaxxed and therefore, triple blessed.

            As to who would make the vaccine, that is a ridiculous question because first, there would have to be a vaccine to make, and there isn’t.

            So your question is nebulous and can’t be answered, and you have no clue who would make the vaccine IF AND WHEN there ever is a vaccine invented for the common cold.

            Will you be able to understand that, do you think?

        3. NBC NEWS

          “Johnson & Johnson opioids helped create ‘worst man-made public health crisis in history,’ Oklahoma says in court”

          By Xuan Thai

          May 28, 2019

          NORMAN, Okla. — The first trial against a pharmaceutical opioid manufacturer started Tuesday in Oklahoma in what could be a precedent-setting case for hundreds of other claims around the country.

          The state’s attorney general, Mike Hunter, began the day by accusing Johnson & Johnson of putting profits over responsibility and argued that the company was responsible for the “worst man-made public health crisis in the history of our state and country.”

          In the multibillion-dollar lawsuit against the drugmaker, lawyers for the state argued that Johnson & Johnson knew about the addictive nature of opioids, but misled doctors by downplaying the risks of the drugs while touting its benefits.

          Brad Beckworth, a lawyer for Oklahoma, argued that Johnson & Johnson was motivated to increase sales on multiple fronts as both the manufacturer of the drugs Duragesic and Nucynta and as a supplier of the raw materials for other opioid manufacturers.

          He argued that a marketing push by Johnson & Johnson lead doctors to overprescribe opioids in Oklahoma.

          1. This, I believe, is the same Johnson and Johnson peddling this horsepiss they call a vaccine, while touting all the good things it can do for you, with absolutely no harm, guaran-damn-tee it, yes sir!

      1. Last month, new research was published by Imperial College London suggesting that people with higher levels of T cells (a type of cell in the immune system) from common cold coronaviruses were less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.

          1. Get lots of colds?

            HUH?

            That is as ridiculous an idea as licking doorknobs and sniffing bus seats, for that matter, when you get right down to it.

            Why would anyone healthy get a lot of colds?

            I haven’t had a cold in years, because I take care of myself, which is the simplest and best way to not come down with a cold.

            Where on earth did you grow up, Sorin, that you don’t know these things?

        1. Another stupid response from you. What are your T cell levels? Gonna chance that against the vaccine? Notice they said less likely, exactly what does that mean? Only 8 out of 10 will be immune?

          This is a little, sorry a lot out of your wheelhouse

          1. My T-cell levels?

            Top notch, I would say.

            Am I gonna chance that against the vaccine?

            What vaccine?

            There is no vaccine.

            So of course I am going to trust my T-cells.

            My goodness, what a silly question.

          2. Here’s a news story just out on Reuters, J Wheaton, that you and Sorin will just love, because it shows that like you and Sorin, Joe Biden’s top science advisor also likes to bully and demean people, which puts you and Sorin into some top-tier company indeed in that regard, and maybe because he does it, it gave you and Sorin the idea that it is the right thing to do:

            “Biden adviser Lander investigated after workplace complaints, White House says”

            Reuters

            February 7, 2022

            WASHINGTON, Feb 7 (Reuters) – The White House said on Monday a full investigation has been conducted into the behavior of science adviser Eric Lander, after receiving reports that he bullied and demeaned staffers, and it will monitor any corrective actions taken.

            Lander, a top science adviser to Biden and director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, was the focus of an internal review after subordinates complained, Politico first reported the review Monday.

            White House press secretary Jen Psaki said President Joe Biden has been “crystal clear” about expectations for a respectful work environment, and put in place mechanisms to conduct investigations into workplace complaints “as was conducted in this case.”

            “This is not acceptable behavior.”

            “Dr. Lander is expected to comply and he will be monitored for compliance because having a safe workplace environment is imperative to the president, the Vice President, First Lady, the second gentleman, all of us who work here.”

            “In addition to the full thorough investigation. It was conveyed through meetings to senior White House officials directly that his behavior was inappropriate,” she said, and corrective action was needed.

            “Nothing about his behavior is acceptable to anyone here – not at all,” she added.

            end quotes

            Maybe you and Sorin better pay some heed to Jen there and change your ways while you can or you’ll both feel the sharp side of her tongue lashing you mercilessly on your backs.

  2. Paul, whether you want to believe it or not it’s a vaccine. It meets the definition of a vaccine. It just shows how ignorant you are, but we already knew that about you.

    What does Lander have to do with the vaccine? Absolutely nothing, just your typical attempt at redirecting.
    Paul, why not stick to topics you know, like growing potatoes in trash cans.

    1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine, when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.

      1. Wow, Stuart a more than one-line response. Gosh, it’s nice to see you grow as an individual but unfortunately, you are incorrect on the definition of a vaccine. Your body actually provides immunity. The vaccine helps the body to develop the weapons to resist the disease. I’d paste the link but I’m not going to go through the trouble of doing that because you won’t read it.

        Just trust me you’re incorrect it is a vaccine. As I said before just because you have an opinion doesn’t make it fact.

        A bastion of misinformation

        1. When people say on the internet “I’d paste the link but I’m not going to go through the trouble of doing that because you won’t read it,” it translates out as there is no link and they are trying to bluff their way through something.

          These people claim to have the “sacred” science, and when you ask them for it, they can’t deliver.

          And since I do have a link, I’ll step up to the plate here and post some real science, not this horse**** Tony Fauci and Joe Biden are peddling, to wit:

          Nature

          “Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime – People who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades, although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer.”

          Ewen Callaway

          27 May 2021

          Many people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 will probably make antibodies against the virus for most of their lives.

          So suggest researchers who have identified long-lived antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-191.

          The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting.

          Antibodies — proteins that can recognize and help to inactivate viral particles — are a key immune defence.

          After a new infection, short-lived cells called plasmablasts are an early source of antibodies.

          But these cells recede soon after a virus is cleared from the body, and other, longer-lasting cells make antibodies: memory B cells patrol the blood for reinfection, while bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) hide away in bones, trickling out antibodies for decades.

          “A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.

          Researchers presumed that SARS-CoV-2 infection would trigger the development of BMPCs — nearly all viral infections do — but there have been signs that severe COVID-19 might disrupt the cells’ formation.

          Some early COVID-19 immunity studies also stoked worries, when they found that antibody levels plunged not long after recovery.

          Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19.

          As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection.

          But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

          To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants.

          Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2.

          In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before.

          Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.

          “This is a very important observation,” given claims of dwindling SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, says Rafi Ahmed, an immunologist at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, whose team co-discovered the cells in the late 1990s.

    2. Hey, now that you mention it, didn’t have a bad season last year, all in all.

      Got a good-sized pile of pine needles ahead for this coming season.

      Nothing like your own Russets and Yukon Golds to eat.

      Beats what they have, or used to have in the stores, anyway, before Joe Biden turned us into a modern-day version of 1950’s-era Soviet Union with its famous bare shelves.

      As to the science advisor, that dude is history.

      Joe Biden accepted his resignation either this morning or yesterday, I didn’t catch the exact time.

      Good riddance, ain’t it, J Wheaton?

      I mean who wants a president of the United States of America who has as his top science advisor some thuggish dude, but a good Democrat nonetheless, who bullies women as if he were another Andy Cuomo?

      So of course, the dude had to go, and pronto!

      So what were you saying about him?

      Were you one of those ones crying out for him to stay?

        1. You’re as droll as all get out, J Wheaton, and in these perilous times we are mired in today thanks to 145 million people across the planet who voted for Joe Biden to be president, that really is a good thing, a positive thing for humanity that you can come in here day after day to give them something to chuckle about, or have a good guffaw over, which is real good for clearing out that terrible gunk that can accumulate down there in the bottoms of your lungs if you are dour and slump shouldered all the time like so many in this country are which is why they are catching COVID and dying like flies.

          Bad posture, don’t you know, coupled with a bad attitude is a deadly combination.

          And of course you can’t see what I am talking about here with respect to the thug Joe Biden selected out of all possible people to be his top dog science advisor, which has everything to do with this thread, but you can’t see it because you are conditioned not to question, and more to the point, you actually share his thuggish attitude towards those who you see as your inferiors, which in this case, is people who haven’t gotten the horsepiss injected into their bodies.

          Let’s go back to my post of February 7, 2022 @ 11:20 PM, and I will demonstrate to you exactly what it was I was saying then which indeed is very relevant to this topic, if only you could break your conditioning to see it:

          Here’s a news story just out on Reuters, J Wheaton, that you and Sorin will just love, because it shows that like you and Sorin, Joe Biden’s top science advisor also likes to bully and demean people, which puts you and Sorin into some top-tier company indeed in that regard, and maybe because he does it, it gave you and Sorin the idea that it is the right thing to do:

          end quotes

          It’s about a truly hateful and thuggish and fascist attitude that is being inculcated in the easily indoctrinated like yourself and Sorin by the Biden administration.

          Why, J Wheaton, do you think that of all the really qualified scientists out there, Joe Biden would reach down to the bottom of the barrel to select a thug to be his science advisor?

          And don’t try to give us that malarkey and baloney that Joe Biden didn’t know the dude was a thug who is a bully.

          Of course, Joe knew, and it is for that reason that Joe hired the dude, because he wanted some thug with what might pass as science credentials to be in there to teach people like you how to bully people like me who don’t and won’t drink the Joe Biden COVID vaccine KOOL-AID.

          Apparently, Joe thought he could keep the dude under control as to who he was bullying, but apparently the dude slipped his leash and started bullying some good Democrats in Joe’s administration, turning into a political version of a chicken-killing dog, so to speak, who went on a frenzy bullying the weaklings that surround Joe, because they are a lot easier for him to bully than somebody like me, who knows as much science as he does, if not more.

          1. Paul, take your foot out of your mouth. Biden’s science and technology advisor isn’t on his medical team which advises on COVID. So why not STF while you are still ahead. Your’re looking foolish.

          2. GUFFAW GUFFAW GUFFAW GUFFAW!

            J Wheaton, you are a rip and that is a fact, dude.

            And thanks for the good guffaw there, or series of them, actually!

            You just did my immune system and T-cells and memory B cells a huge favor.

            And us older folks in here judge a president by the people he selects to be around him, just like the rabid and ravening Democrats did every day of the week and many times on the Sunday talk shows with regard to Trump.

            If this had been Trump in office, and it came to light that his top science advisor was a bully and thug who demeaned women, can you imagine the uproar in the media and the outcry from the Democrats?

            Nancy Pelosi would be howling at the top of her lungs and calling for Trump’s resignation, and AOC and Ilhan Omar would be screeching and ululating while calling for Trump’s head delivered up on a platter, and the foul-mouthed Rashida Tlaib would be screaming over and over “IMPEACH THE MOTHER****** IMPEACH THE MOTHER******” while furiously tearing at her hair with one hand in a frenzy while at the same time, flagellating herself on the back with a Harley Davidson primary chain.

            But what happens when it is Joe Biden’s thug?

            Nothing, because people like you and the media and the Democrats all
            defend him, while if it had been Trump, your own howls could be heard distinctly on the far side of the moon.

            I bring him up to point out to you how big a hypocrite you appear to be to the two million people out there in the candid world who tune in every day just to see what you will say next and to whom.

        2. So of course the old flaky goofball Joe Biden knew full well who Lander was and what he was getting, and why, when he appointed this bully Lander to be his top science advisor, because Joe himself is a bully, and birds of a feather flock together:

          From 2009 to 2017, Lander served as external co-chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST), advising the White House for all eight years of the Obama-Biden administration.

    3. No, J Wheaton, it does not meet the traditional definition of a vaccine.

      It meets your modern, democratized definition of a vaccine which is anything you want to define it to be, so for you, it is a vaccine.

      Just as for you a dose of pure horsepiss labeled “vaccine” by some BIG PHARM dude in a white lab coat would be a vaccine if Tony Fauci told you it was, and Joe Biden told you that you had a patriotic duty to take the jab, for the sake of America’s future, and who would be getting rich off the deal was the dude who owned the horse with the weak bladder.

      So to me, who am a lot older than are you, thanks to proper care and maintenance of m y T-cells, rather than relying on horsepiss to keep me running, it meets the traditional definition of a snake oil cure.

      Snake oil, J Wheaton, is a term used to describe deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam.

      Say like COVID vaccine?

      Similarly, “snake oil salesman” is a common expression used to describe someone who sells, promotes, or is a general proponent of some valueless or fraudulent cure, remedy, or solution.

      Tony Fauci?

      Joe Biden?

      For your information, J Wheaton, and to help you out by filling in some details from what should have been your eighth-grade education if you hadn’t of dropped out of the sixth grade instead, the term comes from the “snake oil” that used to be sold as a cure-all elixir for many kinds of physiological problems.

      Many 19th-century United States and 18th-century European entrepreneurs advertised and sold mineral oil (often mixed with various active and inactive household herbs, spices, drugs, and compounds, but containing no snake-derived substances whatsoever) as “snake oil liniment”, making claims about its efficacy as a panacea.

      Patent medicines that claimed to be a panacea were extremely common from the 18th century until the 20th, particularly among vendors masking addictive drugs such as cocaine, amphetamine, alcohol and opium-based concoctions or elixirs, to be sold at medicine shows as medication or products promoting health.

      And now in 2022, we still have patent medicines claiming to be a panacea being sold at an on-going medicine show from inside the Biden white house starring Tony Fauci as a top-notch scientific expert and chief medical advisor to a senile American president as medication or products promoting health, such is the persistence of human nature.

      And ask “Devil Bill” Rockefeller, J Wheaton, what it takes to be a top-notch snake oil salesman today like Tony Fauci is, and the immediate answer he will give you is true believers in the curative powers of snake oil like you.

      1. Again Paul, your opinion is just some ignorant rant by some old guy. It’s not based on any fact. It absolutely meets the requirement/definition of a vaccine.

        It’s not my definition of a vaccine, it’s not big Pharmas definition of a vaccine- it is THE definition of a vaccine. You claim to be well educated but obviously, that is in doubt.

        1. Okay, J Wheaton.

          If you want it to be a vaccine, or if you have a psychological need for it to be a vaccine, then, most certainly, for you, have it be a vaccine, if that will make you feel good about yourself, which is an important factor in keeping your T-cells strong and functioning.

          I don’t and won’t believe the stuff is a vaccine, but that shouldn’t stop you from believing it is a vaccine.

          It is a democracy, afterall, so for you, words should have the meaning that you choose to give them, elsewise, what is the sense of bothering to have a democracy, especially a sacred democracy like ours is.

          1. Facts are facts. You can believe anything you want (which you seem to do a lot ) but it doesn’t mean you are correct. Please keep going here and embarrass yourself some more.

          2. Ah, yes, J Wheaton, facts are indeed facts and the facts are that this is just like some bull**** from straight out of a cheaply-scripted comic opera version of 1984, where the meaning of words literally changes in mid-sentence, so the latter part of the sentence ends up contradicting the beginning of the sentence,

            YOUR definition of a vaccine is a total bull**** version, and yes, despite your vociferous denials to the contrary, it is indeed BIG PAHRM’s warped and twisted definition of vaccine for the purpose of intentionally misleading people, and it is very much a political definition, having nothing to do with science or public health, and everything to do with profits for BIG PHARM.

            And J Wheaton, I have never claimed to be “highly educated,” because I don’t describe myself with superlatives, not being a politician, and I think “highly educated” is a bull**** term in and of itself, because it means nothing.

            The only claim I have made is to not being stupid enough to buy into this bunkum you and BIG PHARM and the shill Fauci and the other shill Biden are trying to peddle in here with your modified and amended version of what a vaccine is.

            But if you have some serious psychological reason to believe that what you are saying is true, even when it isn’t, my advice to you would be to trust your own judgment in that regard, and you should be fine, so long as you don’t keep getting yourself all heated up trying to convince rational adults in here who know better and can’t be fooled that your definition of a vaccine is anything but political bull****.

        2. It is about corporate profits, afterall:

          CBS NEWS

          “J&J said to quietly halt COVID-19 vaccine production”

          Megan Cerullo

          8 February 2022

          Drugmaker Johnson & Johnson has halted production of its single-dose COVID-19 vaccine, according to a New York Times report.

          The pharmaceutical company last year quietly shut down production at a plant in Leiden, Netherlands, which was the only facility where usable doses of the vaccine were manufactured, catching some of its customers off guard, the report states.

          Johnson & Johnson has instead been using the plant to work on an experimental and potentially more profitable drug that could protect against an unrelated respiratory virus, according to the report.

        3. NEWSWEEK

          “Woman Died of Allergic Reaction to COVID Vaccine, Autopsy Confirms”

          Jenni Fink

          9 February 2022

          A Kansas family is planning on filing a lawsuit after a relative died of an allergic reaction to a COVID-19 vaccination last year.

          Jeanie Evans, 68, died on March 24, one day after she received the Moderna vaccine, prompting an investigation by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE).

          An autopsy report acquired by the Topeka Capital-Journal confirmed Evans died of “anaphylaxis due to COVID-19 vaccination.”

          Evans received the first dose of the Moderna vaccine against COVID-19 on March 23.

          About 20 minutes later, she started to complain that her airway was obstructed, per the Topeka Capital-Journal.

          The day after her vaccination, Evans died “unexpectedly” at Stormont-Vail Hospital, an obituary for the 68-year-old said.

        4. And the **** doesn’t keep you from catching the COVID, either:

          CNBC

          “EU investigates reports of menstrual disorders after mRNA Covid shots”

          Reuters

          Feb. 11, 2022

          KEY POINTS

          * The European Medicines Agency’s safety committee said on Friday it was reviewing reports of heavy menstrual bleeding and absence of menstruation from women who had received Covid-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna.

    4. Sure, if you change the definition.

      Watch……Mr. Wheaton, I respect your intellect.

      Of course, I changed the definition of both respect and intellect.

      Tell me sir, what is it like, never thinking for yourself, and only slurping up the pablum foisted upon you by your ‘betters’?
      You drink deeply of the fountain of Leftism, but seem incapable of independent thought?

      1. Sorry Pub but the definition hasn’t changed. Your independent thinking does not necessarily make you correct in your outcomes. So, think away my friend, and be that independent thinker. Surely, there are many independent thinkers out there who think the world is flat. Doesn’t make them right but they are damn proud they are an “independent thinker”

          1. Measles vaccine 93% effective – it’s a vaccine, why isn’t it 100%?
            Fully vaccinated against COVID 91.2%

            Tell me about those chains around you. LOL independent thinker my ass.

            BREAKING: The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told the Associated Press that the agency changed its definition of vaccination. “The latest CDC definition is absent the word ‘immunity’ and just focuses on the stimulation of the body’s immune response. The CDC also changed its wording for the definition of ‘vaccination’ from ‘the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease’ in 2018 to “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.”

    5. Boo hoo hoo, poor babies!

      Did you lose any money on this today, J Wheaton?

      Reuters

      “Wall Street ends higher; bank stocks rise with Treasury yields”

      By Noel Randewich and Bansari Mayur Kamdar

      February 8, 2022

      Earnings were mixed on Tuesday, with Pfizer Inc down after the drugmaker’s full-year sales forecast for its COVID-19 vaccine and antiviral pills fell short of estimates.

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