On Sunday, during church hours, a Fed-Ex truck rolled up Secretairy Road past No trespassing signs and entered the property of Former County Supervisor Granville Hogg. According to Mr. Hogg, other thefts, burglaries, and B&R have occurred at this location. Mr. Hogg, unable to determine the identity of the driver, engaged him with a handgun. The Northampton Sheriff’s Department provided the following statement to the Mirror:
Sunday, September 23, 2018 around noon, we were called by both 911 and Granville Hogg to respond to the incident. The deputy arrived on the scene within 4 minutes of the call and properly identified the delivery drivers and released them to continue their business. The drivers reported that Mr. Hogg, while armed with a handgun, blocked their exit from a private road and refused to let them leave. The road was on private property belonging to Mr. Hogg . Mr. Hogg reported that he was unsure why they were on his property and felt that they had not produced valid identification as to their employment. Mr. Hogg did have a firearm in his possession and was blocking their exit when the deputy arrived. The drivers were given advice about speaking to the Magistrate to obtain charges. They ultimately did and two Misdemeanor warrants for brandishing a firearm and two Protective Orders were issued against Mr. Hogg. All of the alleged offenses occurred outside the presence of the Deputy and the Deputy was never told not to arrest Mr. Hogg. Following the incident the deputy took possession of the firearm. The next day Mr. Hogg spoke to a magistrate and obtained warrants for Trespassing on both the driver and passenger of the delivery truck.
The Virginia State Police is investigating the allegation of abduction.
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there it is a good citizen who does good for his mankind is guilty the perpetrator is innocent, God help this country where the good is punished and the bad rewarded
REALLY??? Fed-Ex on Sunday morning? 2 drivers? I would be skeptical too. If they went on posted property and the police came, obviously, they were confrontational with Mr Hogg. If you come on to someone’s property and cause issues and they call the Sheriff’s department, Why would you not detain them until officers arrived?It all seems fishy to me. And the timing! Right after the Supervisors meeting concerning the south side of Cape Charles Harbor? Hmmmm….. Reasonable doubt folks. I stand with Mr. Hogg!!!
He was never known to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
The Eastern Shore that would have allowed this is long gone. You all gave it away, one acre at a time.
The fed ex driver should have relieved him of his handgun and made his own citizen arrest.
I would have.
Not to poke holes in your legal theory here, Hoss, dude, but if you are trespassing on someone else’s posted property, on what grounds could you, the trespasser, institute a citizen’s arrest against the landowner?
And why wouldn’t the landowner be justified in blowing your **** clean away if you tried to assault him to take away his weapon?
Just curious, is all.
I just threw that out there for the ‘knee-jerk’ reaction it was sure to get. Most folks think this WWW is real.
Cheap entertainment!
I actually figured that, Hoss!
Otherwise, it would have been imposter, probably a Russian, but maybe not, because there are a lot of countries out there that want to spoil our democracy for us, coming in to here to make people think you were a flaming liberal Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton so that she would put people like your real self in to a big bushel Basket of Deplorables so that you could have your rights stripped from you by the judges the Democrats would put in power, and there you would be, sitting behind barbed wire in a Democrat Party re-education camp where you would be re-indoctrinated at the point of a gun while doing hard labor breaking rocks in the hot sun to make people suspicious of you, because if the Russians or whomever could convince people you were a real liberal Democrat, they would no longer listen to you, which would be a real shame for America if that ever happened.
So thanks for coming back and setting that aright, and to close, I did appreciate those responses you elicited, except I don’t think any of them came from any liberals.
They would never have confronted the truck in the first place, in case it really was criminals, so they wouldn’t make the criminals feel bad about themselves for being criminals.
I would have confronted it unarmed, if necessary.
WHAT! Try to relieve me of my gun on my property after YOU been TRESPASSING and see what happens!
Are you nuts or just a Democrat! Who in their right mind would try to do this?
Have you been trained in Handgun Retention? If not you would be surprised at how easy it is to take handgun away from the average fool. Look into it before you make ignorant comments. Better yet you would do well to look over that log before you leap, calling me a democrat is unhealthy.
He called you a Democrat, Hoss, because you so skillfully played one there.
They are so easy to ‘guide’.
Cheapest entertainment, dollar for dollar, available.
Amen to that, Hoss!
How boring life would be if we did not have the Cape Charles Mirror to liven things up!
A little clarification may be in order. I have it on good authority the truck was not a Fed Ex truck, but a Penske rental van. The truck came on long private road, passed a no trespassing sign and continued on down the road, not once but twice. The person renting the property from Mr. Hogg was called between the first and second time the truck entered the property and asked if she was awaiting a delivery, to which she responded “no”.
Only after the Penske rental van was stopped was it explained that they were attempting to make delivery to an address in Oyster.
He thinks he is above the law. I hope hogg goes to jail
Not mentioned in this report is whether the FedEx “drivers” had a package to deliver with Mr. Hogg‘s name and address on it. If they did not, his suspicions would seem confirmed. And as Nioaka noted, who has ever seen two drivers in a FedEx truck? Finally, in response to “Blue Hoss,” only a dullard would not recognize that Granville was the sharpest supervisor in the shed.
“The fed ex driver should have relieved him of his handgun”
Thanks for the info.
I did not know that Fed Ex employed martial arts experts. I will definitely be more deferential next time they show up in my driveway.
Unless they run over one of the cats.
George,
The “Fed Ex” drivers who were actually driving a Penske rental van did not have a package with Mr. Hogg’s name or address. They claimed they were trying to deliver a package which actually had an address in Oyster.
I could understand their turning down the wrong road once, even if they should have been looking in Oyster, but to go down the same road a second time after mistakenly going down it shortly before certainly looks suspicious.
One more thing I forgot to mention – they were wearing Fed Ex uniforms but were driving a Penske rental truck, so it was not all apparent they were with Fed Ex until Mr. Hogg stopped the truck and could see their uniforms. Plus, they weren’t anywhere near the correct address for the package they were supposed to be delivering – that was in Oyster. And they went up the posted no trespassing driveway twice, not just once. Between the first time they went up the driveway and the second time, Mr. Hogg called his tenant and asked if she was awaiting a delivery, to which she said no.
Apparently, this company sub-contracts to Fed Ex to do their deliveries, but does not put signage on the rental trucks they use to indicate they are with Fed Ex.
Fedex uses some subcontracted drivers that drive Penske trucks. However, as been mentioned, Fedex does not offer Sunday delivery. Fedex does not have co-drivers, because of the cost. So the drivers could have been Fedex employees or subcontracted drivers, but were probably not on Fedex business. Perhaps the Mirror could get a comment from Fedex to substantiate the facts surrounding the intrusion on posted property.
An excellent idea!
Good idea on contacting Fed Ex, Michael.
If nothing else, Fed Ex should supply their subcontracted drivers with one of those magnetic stick on signs proclaiming the vehicle to be a Fed Ex delivery vehicle. Is that too much to ask so they can save the costs of all the benefits they would be paying to hire their own employees?
Would save a lot of confusion.
I have to say, I’ve been wary a couple of times when a hard to ID van rolled up the driveway. The problem is, a magnetic sign would be pretty easy to steal or counterfeit.
Maybe FedEx should be more upfront that they don’t deliver on Sundays.
Or maybe a text / automated phone call/ e-mail if they are delivering outside regular weekday hours.
So congratulations to Granville for being diligent and protecting his property. To be honest, if a Penske truck pulled into my driveway, not once but twice, on a Sunday morning when I was not expecting delivery of any kind, company, I certainly would have been meeting them at the gate as they retreated the second time….with the 9 and the dog. There have been several break ins around the corner of our farm and it wasn’t that long ago we had a new mower vanish while we were just out to Food Lion. Sunday. Penske. 2 guys. twice. No packages expected…especially on a day when Fed Ex doesn’t deliver. My conclusion would have been that they are either there to case the place, or to rob me. Of course I would not bid them good morning and send them on their way. I would have done EXACTLY what Granville did, and respect him for being the man that he is.
And that is hard to argue with!
I don’t have a gun, but no matter, I would have been out there myself asking, “Uh, something I can help you gentlemen with?”
There are a lot of lawnmowers missing up this way, as well, a phenomenon linked to all the heroin and opioids on the street up here.
Lawnmowers are easily snatched, and can readily be turned into the needed cash to buy drugs with.
File this in the category of “Peace of Mind” or “piece of mind” depending on your 2nd amendment beliefs.
According to Hoss, if they’d pulled a gun on you it would be a piece of cake to just take it away from them. Thus not having a gun isn’t really an issue.
You’re welcome.
How true that is, Ray Otton, and thank you for pointing out how true the statement of the knowledgeable and honorable Blue Hoss @ October 1, 2018 at 1:02 pm really is where he says “Have you been trained in Handgun Retention? If not you would be surprised at how easy it is to take handgun away from the average fool.”
I’m a twice-wounded veteran of close-in combat in Viet Nam (I always try to get that in for tokenny whenever I can, which most of the time is hard, but here is easy because it is quite relevant), so I’m not afraid of guns, which I think Blue Hoss would agree is the main factor that separates people like me and him from the fool who thinks his or her as-of-yet unfired gun is going to scare us, when in fact, it makes me laugh, for two reasons, one of them being if they got the gun out and haven’t yet pulled the trigger, it is already too late for them, and the other, a corollary, perhaps, is that if the little hole in the business end of their gun is not pointing directly at some vital part of yourself, their gun is really worthless, which is what makes it too late for them.
I was a public health engineer for awhile who would not engage in honest services fraud in corrupt Rensselaer County in the corrupt State of New York, and when I refused to take bribes or honor bribes taken, not surprisingly, I began to get death threats starting in early 1988 when a sleaze-bag Democrat county legislator called me at home on a Sunday to tell me that if I wouldn’t become corrupt, some people were going to have me gunned down and my response to him, which is seared into my memory the way Connie Chung’s first orgasm is seared into her memory (as an aside, I personally thought the Washington Post [“democracy dies in darkness”] shed a bit more light on that subject than I needed to know, to be truthful, which is why we should bring back don’t ask and don’t tell because I really do not want to know, thank you very much Connie Chung!), was “tell them to bring body bags, because they are going to need them.”
Another goon told me that he knew somebody who was going to “gun me down,” and I told him, “let’s go, take me to him, so he can get a chance to try!”
I even volunteered to clean the dude’s weapon for him and test-fire it to make sure it was in proper working order and sighted in before he made the attempt, to make it as fair for him as possible, a courtesy I think a dude like Blue Hoss would agree should be extended.
We are gentlemen, afterall, Blue Hoss and I which is why we don’t act like thugs carrying guns and threatening people with them, secure in the knowledge that soon enough we would be armed with whet the fool brought to the picnic.
And again, thanks for asking, Ray Otton, and giving me the opportunity to flesh out in more detail what Blue Hoss was saying above about fools and their guns being soon separated.
It was my distinct pleasure to respond, and enjoy your walk on the beach, Ray Otton, while you can, because sure enough, winter is in the air.
I dunno, someone points a gun in my general direction my first thought isn’t “I’m gonna take that away from him”.
My first thought is going to be “it’s hard to hit a moving target”.
We’re not necessarily saying different things, Ray Otton.
I received a FedEx delivery on a Sunday a few weeks ago. The driver explained that they are contracted to FedEx and they deliver everyday except On Mondays. This is FedEx Ground. FedEx Ground comes out of Norfolk and delivers just about to the Maryland border. FedEx Express has no Sunday delivery and comes out of Salisbury. The FedEx Ground Sunday deliveries started when Amazon became popular. FedEx has a lease contract with Penske to provide all their vehicles. Some of the vehicles have no permanent signage. Some do. I was very cautious when I received my Sunday delivery. The driver was very nice and explained their delivery policy to me. I was expecting my delivery on the next working day, but not on Sunday.