Commentary by Charles Landis
By definition, systemic means a system, not a part of a system. When the Left says there is systemic racism in the United States, they are saying it is our system of governance in the United States that is racist . They do not mean just police departments or just parts of our system.
Our system of government is framed by the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, amendments, and interpretations of the Supreme Court. Therefore, what the Left is saying is the founding documents are racist, as are the founding fathers. Indeed, the whole of Western civilization and the Judeo -Christian tradition is reduced to… racism. All the contributions of the great thinkers of the eighteenth century to liberty and freedom, culminating in our founding documents, are reduced to racists and dismissed as old white supremacists who had no interest other than preserving slavery and their estates.
Many on the Left,, especially academic elitists and media commentators who promote the idea of systemic racism in the United States, re-write our history. This is the narrative the NY Times promotes in their 1619 Project to re-write our history by changing the date of our founding from 1776 to 1619, the date the first slaves arrived in Virginia. and have it taught in all schools. It is what Governor Northam means when he says he wants to re-think how we teach history of Virginia.
Nearly every country on Earth is identified by race or ethnicity. For example, I could never become Japanese or Chinese except by looking Chinese or Japanese and documenting ethnicity back for at least 4 generations. An American, however becomes an American the moment they are born here or immigrates and choses to become one, hyphenated or not. This evidences that our system of government is anything but systemic racism. The identity politics of the Left, however, identifies everyone, first, by race, creed, color, gender, or sexual orientation.
It becomes, therefore, necessary to understand why the Left says racism in the United is systemic. One need only look at the rhetoric, agenda, ideology of the Left (Socialist Democrat Party). When they say they want fundamental change or their agenda is a movement for change, they really do mean they want changes , not only in our system of government but everything in our social contract and culture. They are Marxists Socialists and their goal is authoritarian control.
The whole of the ideology and apparatus of the Left is to change our system of government. They did not like the results of the 2016 election, so, they want to change the electoral system. They have spent all the time since Trump trying to remove him remove him. History will record this effort as an attempted coup.
Equality to the Left means equal outcomes, not equal opportunity. Social justice means a guaranteed standard of living ( redistribution of wealth),of income, housing, free college education, and health care. Whereas Marx wanted ownership of the means of production, the Left of today wants worker representation on corporate boards and control.
The social unrest today is all about Trump because he represents all the things in the system which the Left wants to change. To say the Progressive Socialist Democrat Party is liberal, is a travesty upon all the liberalism of the 18th century whence it began.
Paul Plante says
According to a recent article in Forbes on June 11, 2020, entitled “Merriam-Webster Is Changing The Definition Of Racism To Reflect Systemic Oppression,” by Janice Gassam, Senior Contributor, we have as follows on this subject, to wit:
Racism has been the topic of the national conversation and recently Merriam-Webster’s has made a monumental change which will impact the world’s understanding and anti-racism work moving forward.
The editors at Merriam-Webster have decided to revise the online definition for racism after receiving a number of emails from Kennedy Mitchum.
Mitchum, who recently graduated from Drake University in Iowa, wrote that the current definitions of racism, which include “racial prejudice or discrimination,” and also “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race,” don’t take into consideration systemic oppression.
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And there we have it, people – racism in America is now “SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION” of all people with black skin.
“KEEP THE BLACK MAN DOWN,” notwithstanding we just had a black president in this country, which is how stupid and ignorant this whole drama has become, and now the editors at Merriam-Webster have decided to not only become very stupid themselves, if they already weren’t, but to use their dictionary to promote and cultivate ignorance in this nation, already chock-a-block with ignorance to a very high degree, which takes us back to Forbes, to wit:
Many have used the Merriam-Webster definition of racism to push the reverse racism narrative.
This was seen with the popular case of Abigail Fisher versus University of Texas Austin, where Abigail Fisher, who is White, claimed she was denied admission into the university because she was White.
Supporters of the reverse racism ideology have claimed that racial minorities receive “unfair advantages” in the form of school admissions and job selection.
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Am I the only person left in America who is totally sick and tired of hearing this same ignorant BULL**** about “racism?”
As a counter to this ignorant HORSE**** being pushed on us by the editors at Merriam-Webster, I would refer the reader to an essay on April 17, 2017 entitled “How Science and Genetics are Reshaping the Race Debate of the 21st Century” by Vivian Chou, to wit
In the biological and social sciences, the consensus is clear: race is a social construct, not a biological attribute.
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Quite obviously, three years later, on 14 June 2020, the editors at Merriam-Webster are too stupid and ignorant to understand that.
Getting back to that essay, we have:
Today, scientists prefer to use the term “ancestry” to describe human diversity.
“Ancestry” reflects the fact that human variations do have a connection to the geographical origins of our ancestors — with enough information about a person’s DNA, scientists can make a reasonable guess about their ancestry.
However, unlike the term “race,” it focuses on understanding how a person’s history unfolded, not how they fit into one category and not another.
However, even if scientists agree that race is, at most, a social construct, any cursory search of the internet reveals that the broader public is not convinced of this.
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Three years later, as the editors at Merriam-Webster push their agenda of gross ignorance on us to make us into a nations of MORONS who will vote the straight Democrat party ticket, how true that statement is.
Returning to the Chou essay:
Even if most scientists reject the concept of “race” as a biological concept, race exists, undeniably, as a social and political concept.
The popular classifications of race are based chiefly on skin color, with other relevant features including height, eyes, and hair.
Though these physical differences may appear, on a superficial level, to be very dramatic, they are determined by only a minute portion of the genome: we as a species have been estimated to share 99.9% of our DNA with each other.
The few differences that do exist reflect differences in environments and external factors, not core biology.
Importantly, the evolution of skin color occurred independently, and did not influence other traits such as mental abilities and behavior.
In fact, science has yet to find evidence that there are genetic differences in intelligence between populations.
Ultimately, while there certainly are some biological differences between different populations, these differences are few and superficial.
The traits that we do share are far more profound.
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Too bad for humanity in America that the editors at Merriam-Webster are too stupid to be able to comprehend any of that, which brings us back to Forbes, to wit:
Research shows that a growing concern among White Americans is a perceived anti-White bias and the “browning of America.”
This may be exacerbated by the fact that demographers predict that by 2045, America will be majority non-White.
Following the killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery, many are thinking back to Trayvon Martin, Sandra Bland, and so many others.
In addition, following what happened a few weeks ago when a White woman named Amy Cooper called the police on a Black man for no reason, there has been a rise in interest in anti-racism education.
This is evidenced by the fact that currently the New York Times best-seller lists are lined with anti-racism books.
The current versions of the definition of racism do not tell the full story and this may muddy the waters and limit people’s understanding of what racism is and how it can manifest in our systems and structures.
Believing that racism is simply not liking another person based on their race ignores the dark history of racism throughout America’s inception.
Racist laws, policies, and practices including Jim Crow laws, redlining, name discrimination and Plessy versus Ferguson all contribute to institutional and structural racism.
If the definition of racism doesn’t fully encompass the systemic oppression that Black people have experienced in America, there will be a lack of understanding and acceptance from the wider majority.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary is one of the most popular dictionaries and it is currently the best-selling dictionary on Amazon.
People rely on Merriam-Webster to understand definitions, context, and meaning.
Language is so important.
It can either bridge gaps to misunderstanding or build walls that further division.
When having discussions about the treatment of Black people around the world, being able to draw on a history of systemic oppression can enlighten and educate the ignorant and uninformed.
History books will be better able to reflect reality.
Dismantling racist beliefs and systems requires a consideration and reflection of what racism actually is.
Changing the definition of racism to reflect history and systemic oppression will catalyze a shift.
This is one small step that will have a great impact for years to come.
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A “Black” man says
Systematic racism exists!
1) The term Black, used to describe my people is inherently racist and a prime example of systematic racism. Where did it start? Why? We aren’t even Black right? I’ll let you look that up and get back to me. Hint…. it wasn’t to uplift the Negro!!!
2) Why did they make Jesus out to be a White man? Why do the still do it? Why do they want us praying to a white man? Hint wasn’t/isn’t to uplift the Negro.
3)Why don’t School teach African American children about their true heritage in Africa. Hint… it isn’t to uplift Negro.
Just 3 very easy examples. Listen, I don’t expect you to care or understand. Why would you, I don’t assume you are black. But trust me from one human being to another. Systematic racism exist and we fight it almost every day of our lives. We goe through this stuff and still overcome and succeed. Could you imagine how powerful my people would be if the majority told us the truth and stopped holding us back. I suggest having a “black” family over for dinner for a good conversation. Shoot, I’ll come over if you are open.
Note: There is obviously a lot you don’t know about this writer. There have been, and still are many, many black friends in his life. Will tell you sometime over dinner, capecharlesmirror@gmail.com.
Paul Plante says
There will be “systemic racism” in your life til the day you die, dude, because you look for it, and without it, your life would not feel complete.
So, yes, for you, systematic racism exists!
In your mind!
And the best example I can find to back up that assertion is this HORSE**** of yours above here, which starts out as follows:
1) The term Black, used to describe my people is inherently racist and a prime example of systematic racism.
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That’s HOG****, dude.
I have no clue as to who you refer to when you say “my people,” but as to the term “black” to describe those who used to be called negros, that was a term they came up with themselves, for their mown reasons.
Don’t you remember the BLACK PANTHERS and the BLACK POWER SALUTE from your high school African-American studies course?
According to an scholarly academic journal article on that very subject entitled “From Negro to Black to African American: The Power of Names and Naming” by Ben L. Martin in Political Science Quarterly, Vol. 106, No. 1 (Spring, 1991), pp. 83-107, published by the Academy of Political Science, DOI: 10.2307/2152175, https://www.jstor.org/stable/2152175 , we have that history, as follows:
In a December 1988 news conference (thirty-two years ago) at Chicago’s Hyatt Regency O’Hare Hotel, where leaders of seventy-five black groups met to discuss a new national black agenda, Jesse Jackson announced that members of their race preferred to be called “African-American.”
The campaign he then led to replace the term “black” met immediate success with African-American opinion makers and more gradual acceptance in the national press.
Jackson’s cultural offensive proposed an ethnic reference for a racial one, aiming thereby to help create as much as express a sense of ethnic identity among black Americans.
It recalled the successful imposition of “black” or “Negro” twenty years earlier and renewed other themes of the Black Power movement of the late 1960s.
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As to your question, “Where did it start?” “Black is beautiful” was a cultural movement that was started in the United States in the 1960s by African Americans, and it in turn got its roots from the Négritude movement of the 1930s that began among French-speaking African and Caribbean writers living in Paris as a protest against French colonial rule and the policy of assimilation.
So it would appear to have started in Paris.
Why, you ask?
Why would you expect us to know what was in the minds of those people almost a hundred years ago?
If you really want to know, google the subject and do some research like I have done here, instead of putting it over on us, who aren’t black as you say you are, to have to play silly mind games.
As to your statement “We aren’t even Black right?” talk to your man Hussein Obama and ask him to answer that question for you, as he is far more qualified to answer than I, him being black and all.
As to your statement “I’ll let you look that up and get back to me,” consider that I just did, to tell you your statement “Hint…. it wasn’t to uplift the Negro!!!” in the light of actual history is ignorant horse****.
You next wheel off further into outer space with this dandy: 2) Why did they make Jesus out to be a White man?
HUH?
Who is “they” that made Jesus out to be a White man?
Where you getting that ridiculous HOG **** from?
Everybody knows Jesus is as black as the ace of spades, and that is a fact.
As to your question “Why do they still do it?” I’ll personally confess and attest to having no rational answer to that because they may well be insane.
Which takes us to this cry in the dark from your tortured spoul:
“Why do they want us praying to a white man?”
They don’t!
NOBODY wants you praying to a white man, dude.
Liberty of conscience!
You can pray to whomever you like and that is that.
As to your statement, “Hint wasn’t/isn’t to uplift the Negro,” you sound very much like you are channeling that little hate-filled sack of pure white hatred Alvin “Peanuts” Sharpton, which takes us to this, as follows:
3) Why don’t School teach African American children about their true heritage in Africa.
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Because nobody here in the United States of America has a clue as to what their “true heritage” in Africa might be, for the reason that this is not Africa.
Which makes your statement “Hint… it isn’t to uplift Negro” into pure balderdash of which you just gave us 3 very easy examples.
And listen, I don’t expect you to care or understand and why would you?
You are black, after all, and I am not.
But trust me from one human being to another – to you, systematic racism does exist in your mind and as that is so, you personally will be fighting it almost every day of your lives.
And speaking of ignorant horse****, we have this prime example from you of the genre, to wit:
Could you imagine how powerful my people would be if the majority told us the truth and stopped holding us back.
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Who is lying to you is yourself and who is holding you back is yourself.
Ray Otton says
1 – Systemic racism involves the active participation of a country’s government in the persecution of a p[articular race. Think Apartheid in South Africa.
We most certainly don’t have that in the USA, and in fact, have many laws on the books forbidding such behavior.
2 – However, we do have a problem with systemic Liberalism. Not classic liberalism, which is about individual liberty but what should properly be called Progressivism. An ideology which constricts economic and personal rights, forces individuals into demographic boxes and reduces individuality into a conformist whole.
Want to test out this hypothesis? Look through the comments of journalists, Democrat politicians, Hollywood stars or even a liberal in your own life. See if you can find ANY deviation from the approved liberal dogma. None to be found.
Why? Because the entire philosophy is a lie and a scam. Only a country so prosperous, so free and secure could be so frivolous as to indulge a political philosophy that embraces such a ridiculous idea that our country is actively, systematically, discriminating against people based on the color of their skin.
We now know from recent actions that systemic liberalism infects all aspects of society
We have mayors, governors, congressmen and senators cheering on political violence. Public property is destroyed and citizens are imperiled while these leaders demand they disarm and not leave their house without sporting a face mask. Normal citizens are shamed for protesting draconian lockdowns without wearing masks and a week later violent rioters are put forth as patriots while doing the same thing.
Obvious to most people, mainstream media is a big part of systemic liberalism, with the conformity of what it covers and………………………………………. WHAT IT COVERS UP.
Demand journalistic objectivity? That’s racist!
Free expression of ideas? That’s unsafe!
So now, right here in America, we have journalists demanding that people be punished for writing things that are contrary to the approved narrative. How could that ever go wrong?
Scientists offer scientific findings that support the liberal narrative, not the scientific method. See, the NEW scientific method is determining what’s woke and working backwards from there to get the desired results.
And those results end up claiming one day we’ll all die if we let our kids play in the park, but then the next day we hear we’re immune to the pandemic ……………..but only if our hearts are woke enough.
In people’s private lives, tiresome “Karens” scold others on social media for failing to post the right nonsense on their Facebook pages. They do not want to hear what you have to say, they only want to hear their opinion repeated back to them.
Children rebel against whatever it is suburban children have to rebel against by announcing on Twitter that they are cutting off their parents because their parents are insufficiently woke. Except for that monthly rent check, daddy.
All of it is all based on a lie, just like everything liberals say about Mr. Trump and the rest of middle America is a lie.
Who wants to punish people for their speech? Liberals.
Who wants to discriminate among people based on their race? Liberals.
And who wants this hate to continue and even grow because they see harnessing it as their means to take perpetual power? Liberals.
So faced with all of this is would seem we are fast approaching the time to repudiate systemic liberalism so the country can get on with being great again.
MJM says
WAAAAAHHHH !!!
Racism exists ? Why I never couldda believed……
Here’s an easy counter-lesson for you, Affirmative Action. I have stated in this paper prior that I have several times been told right to my face by the Post Office, UPS, Pharmaceutical Companies, and so on, that they would never hire me, that they cannot hire me, because I am a white male, and quotas must be met to satisfy the feds. It’s all stupid and it’s all ridiculous and I can’t fix it.
Who is gonna reimburse me for the substandard work I had to endure while I found my way ? Where are my reparations ?
Ridiculous, correct ?
You don’t know what Affirmative Action is ? Ask Wikipedia.
This is America. We are not perfect. Are you ?
Should we sue you for your imperfections ?
I picked my self up by my bootstraps (dad’s words) and self employed and enjoy the American Dream. I could have stayed home and whined about it but decided corporate America is loaded with too many whiners and idiots that can live by such rules and just got to it . Each and every Personnel Dept. person (yeah, back then it wasn’t human resources) that said such a thing to me, I laughed in their face. Told them they just lost a great employee, thanked them for telling me now rather than waiting 5 years, then told them wouldn’t come back if they offered me presidential money. I was 20 or 22. I had stones, scoffed at them and got to it. You know, that thing called life.
I didn’t spend my life bitching that The NBA is more than 12% black and needs to let white men dominate the sport for quotas, or that there are too many Caribbean representatives in Beisbol. What would that get me ? Do I reallly want to hire lawyers and politicians to fix it ?
The whole business world is tough, and it is mean, and it is unfair, and it is very difficult to go out there and find your way. There is theft, and brutality, and racism, and nepotism, and political skullduggery all around us. Okay, so choose. Blame it on someone and spend your life whining, vote for a whining politician and listen to them make it worse while they” fix it”, or else go find your own little circle and create yourself the best life you can. One way you smile and one way you frown. The results are their own reward. The people that man up and go out and get it themselves, smile. Those that stay home and hope for someone to bring it to them, or give it to ’em, frown.
From what I can tell, that’s how it works.
Choose.
A "White" man says
‘Could you imagine how powerful my people would be if the majority told us the truth and stopped holding us back’ ????
For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites.
The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?
The whites were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former slaves had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors. America has struggled with racial discord ever since.
Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedman’s Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball.
Their new laws intruded into people’s lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice versa. They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless handwringing to close the “achievement gap.” To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded whites to “Celebrate Diversity!” and “Say No to Racism.” Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment.
Some thought that what W.E.B. Du Bois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated blacks would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what blacks were capable of. There is a Talented Tenth. They are the black Americans who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists. But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing.
Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And blacks never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment.
Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit, Watts, Newark, Los Angeles, Cincinnati, and now Ferguson, rioting and looting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesn’t mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities.
But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue it’s a problem of “culture,” as if culture creates people’s behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame “white privilege.”
But since 1965, when the elites opened America’s doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India–people who are not white, not rich, and not “connected”–have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black “youths” are committing half the country’s violent crime–crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.
The experiment has failed. Not because of culture, or white privilege, or racism. The fundamental problem is that white people and black people are different. They differ intellectually and temperamentally. These differences result in permanent social incompatibility.
Our rulers don’t seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. They don’t understand that white people aren’t out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity.
The elites explain everything with “racism,” and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point.
MJM says
WAAAAAHHHH !!!
Racism exists ? Why I never couldda believed……
Here’s an easy counter-lesson for you, Affirmative Action. I have stated in this paper prior that I have several times been told right to my face by the Post Office, UPS, Pharmaceutical Companies, and so on, that they would never hire me, that they cannot hire me, because I am a white male, and quotas must be met to satisfy the feds. It’s all stupid and it’s all ridiculous and I can’t fix it.
Who is gonna reimburse me for the substandard work I had to endure while I found my way ? Where are my reparations ?
Ridiculous, correct ?
You don’t know what Affirmative Action is ? Ask Wikipedia.
This is America. We are not perfect. Are you ?
Should we sue you for your imperfections ?
I picked my self up by my bootstraps (dad’s words) and self employed and enjoy the American Dream. I could have stayed home and whined about it but decided corporate America is loaded with too many whiners and idiots that can live by such rules and just got to it . Each and every Personnel Dept. person (yeah, back then it wasn’t human resources) that said such a thing to me, I laughed in their face. Told them they just lost a great employee, thanked them for telling me now rather than waiting 5 years, then told them wouldn’t come back if they offered me presidential money. I was 20 or 22. I had stones, scoffed at them and got to it. You know, that thing called life.
I didn’t spend my life bitching that The NBA is more than 12% black and needs to let white men dominate the sport for quotas, or that there are too many Caribbean representatives in Beisbol. What would that get me ? Do I really want to hire lawyers and politicians to fix it ?
The whole business world is tough, and it is mean, and it is unfair, and it is very difficult to go out there and find your way. There is theft, and brutality, and racism, and nepotism, and political skullduggery all around us. Okay, so choose. Blame it on someone and spend your life whining, vote for a whining politician and listen to them make it worse while they” fix it”, or else go find your own little circle and create yourself the best life you can. One way you smile and one way you frown. The results are their own reward. The people that man up and go out and get it themselves, smile. Those that stay home and hope for someone to bring it to them, or give it to ’em, frown.
From what I can tell, that’s how it works.
Choose.
Paul Plante says
According to a show called “The Legislative Gazette” broadcast on WMHT-FM this morning, there is systemic racism at St. Rose College in Albany, New York, because the black folks are forced to have to go to classes with white teachers or professors, instead of professors who “look like them,” which seems to be to be a demand for a segregated school which would be a return of separate but equal, which as I recall, was outlawed by the Supreme Court in Plessy v. Ferguson.
According to the WAMC-FM website, where The Legislative Gazette first aired, prompted by claims of racism on campus chronicled on an Instagram account called “Black At St. Rose,” interim president Marcia White is promising to hire a Director of Diversity and Inclusion for the private Albany college.
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“Instagram?”
WTF is “Instagram?”
Getting back to the transcript we have:
Students at Albany’s College of St. Rose are taking to Instagram and naming names with allegations of racism in the classroom.
The account entitled “Black at St. Rose” has almost 200 anonymous posts.
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Allegations of racism by anonymous people?
Is that 200 people?
Or one person 200 times?
Getting back to what is considered “racism” these days, which can be just about anything, we have:
One says a social work professor “made countless amount of sexist and racist remarks during his lectures.”
“There were so many complaints about him during my sophomore year, the college began evaluating/sitting in during his lectures…”
“He’s still employed.”
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Could it be because the complaints themselves were bull****?
Getting back to the narrative:
Another says a creative writing teacher “would make inappropriate comments like calling me sassy, assumed I was from a rougher area, and he asked me if he could call me sister.”
Another reads, “I will never forget sitting in a meeting with the Vice President of Diversity and Inclusion and a couple of other students and being told ‘Do not be the reason that the college does not let in other black students.’”
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Is that “racist?”
Getting back to the transcript:
Interim college president Marcia White says the claims on Instagram are being investigated.
“Academic affairs leaders are currently reviewing the experiences shared by students,” White said.
“The deans are meeting with students and faculty already and division leaders in the areas are looking into those accounts so we are investigating the accusations being brought forth.”
No disciplinary action has been taken yet.
White says she wants students to be able to lodge a complaint in a more official capacity than social media, so she is focusing on revising the reporting process.
White says under Title IX, for example, all faculty, staff and administrators are mandated reporters but there is no similar requirement at St. Rose for reports of bias, and no requirement that bias reports are brought to the attention of the president.
David Cuttino is a senior at St. Rose and the Chapter President of the Albany County Chapter of the Groove Phi Groove social fellowship, a fraternity with roots in the civil rights movement.
Cuttino, who is Black, is a music major, and says he has never had a Black professor.
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And there it is, people!
No black professors for black students at a private college they did not have to attend now constitutes “systemic racism” here in the United States of America.
Getting back to the transcript:
“It’s the same six old white males teaching the same classes retiring, coming back, you know,” Cuttino said.
“And we have some women, white women, that are very progressive like Suna Gunther, you know, we have Kari Francis, who are there.”
“These are teachers that are younger and they understand that, you know, Black people have contributions, Black people have meaning.
But as for the older white male majority that’s there, they refuse to change anything or allow anyone in there.”
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Yes. people, WHITE SUPREMACY rears its ugly head in the music department of St. Rose College in Albany, New York where it’s the same six old white males teaching the same classes retiring, coming back, you know, and they refuse to change anything or allow anyone in there.
Glad I’m not going there myself if that is the case.
My goodness, who would want to have to go to a college where the teachers are six old white males?
OH, THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL!
Getting back to the drama:
White says with revenues down during the pandemic, now is not the time to hire new staff.
“We are in a hiring freeze,” White said.
“Do we, will we be looking at individuals of color when we begin to reassess and have the opportunity and the funds to apply – that’s a policy we’re always held to but at this time, we aren’t in the – we don’t have the opportunity to do that.”
White says she is hiring a Director of Diversity and Inclusion.
“It is in the budget,” White said.
“It will be in the budget no matter what we have to cut.”
“It is a priority.”
“So, if we have to cut something else we will.”
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How about cutting back on the number of classes you offer, and simply start handing out degrees?
Moving right along here:
There is some pushback to the hiring from faculty, who say there’s already a Chief Diversity Officer, and from students like Cuttino, who dismisses it as a Band-Aid.
“Just hire Black people,” Cuttino said.
“It could be one-by-one, it could be time at a time, but we just want Black people more on campus other than being gardeners and other than being lunch aides.”
“That’s it.”
“A diversity – no.”
“Don’t waste no money on a director of diversity.”
“That’s a waste of money.”
According to St. Rose, 55% of the student body is white, 15% is Black, about 10% is multiracial, and 7% is LatinX.
White says about 15% of the 177 full time faculty are people of color.
Cassandra Watson, who is Black, graduated in May with a degree in psychology.
“Black students deserve teachers that look like us,” Watson said.
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So, do white students deserve teachers that look like them?
And how about the Japanese students?
Or the Vietnamese students?
Or the Filipinos?
Do they all deserve teachers who look like them, or is that a privilege only the black folks can enjoy, because of black supremacy?
Getting back to what she calls “racism” at St. Rose:
“And not just teachers that are teaching history or teachers that are teaching English so we can read Black books.”
“We need teachers that are teaching art.”
“We need teachers who are teaching gym.”
“For every white position that’s at St. Rose we need a Black teacher for it because representation matters.”
“There shouldn’t just be representation in the dining hall and the janitors and sprinkling a diversity director in there.”
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SEPARATE BUT EQUAL!
Every white majority college in America now has to have black professors for the black students who demand teachers who look like them!
Getting back to it:
Cuttino says hiring a diversity director is akin to people making broad demands to reduce police funding instead of holding individual officers accountable.
“We say arrest Breonna Taylor’s killer.”
“They give us Black Lives Matter signs,” Cuttino said.
“You know what I mean?”
“What is that doing?”
“Arrest the killer that killed Breonna Taylor.”
“That’s all we’re asking for.”
“Hire Black people on campus.”
“‘Oh we’ll get a Diversity Director.’”
“What?”
“That doesn’t answer my problem at all.”
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His problem is a psychological one that only therapy to deal with his obvious implicit bias can cure.
Staying with this moronic passion play going on as we speak in the Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York, we have:
White says the problem is the reporting system as a whole at St. Rose.
Watson agrees.
“If you’re a ‘good Black’ and you fall in the realms of what we think good Black is then you won’t have to be spoken to,” Watson said.
“But as soon as you step outside of those – as soon as you’re too loud, as soon as you cuss a little too much, then no we don’t want that.”
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Actually, we are ******* sick of it!
But my goodness, what a racist comment that is!
Getting back to the mindless stupidity, we have:
Watson was President of Spectrum the ALANA Student Union – ALANA standing for African, LatinX, Asian, and Native American.
The group represents minority students and holds celebrations, expos, and even fashion shows.
Watson says to be Black at St. Rose is to feel on edge.
“You can’t be moving through Cam too quickly with stuff in your hand or they’re going to think you’re stealing,” Watson said.
Cam is short for Camelot – the dining hall.
“You can’t be in the library talking about things with your friends while you’re studying or else the security guards are going to be called because you’re making a ruckus in the library,” Watson said.
“And it’s just those subtle things that have happened to me and my friends or I’ve seen happen to other people and their friends that do not happen to the white students on campus.”
Watson says these micro-aggressions are extra offensive because she feels St. Rose is a selling a picture of diversity while recruiting that isn’t accurate.
“Specifically from the city.”
“From New York City.”
“Sending busloads of students up here with their parents and having the clubs of color come to these star days and come to these accepted student days so we can sit there and kind of be props for them so we look like, ‘Oh we’re such a diverse campus,’ and then when they get here they have nothing for them,” Watson said.
Cuttino says the issue is not just at St. Rose, and wants his to be the last generation to deal with systemic racism.
“This is the time,” Cuttino said.
“This is the time where we were in social studies and we listened to Malcom X and Martin Luther King and we heard them and we said, ‘If we were there we would do this that and the third,’ those times are now.”
St. Rose students are due to return to campus August 24.
White says new reporting policies will be in place by that time.
St. Rose faculty are meeting Thursday via Zoom and the agenda, which WAMC obtained, has many motions and demands related to the Instagram account.
They suggest hiring two minority visiting professors rather than White’s planned Director of Diversity.
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So today it isn’t about what the professor might know – that has become immaterial – it is about what the professor looks like!
What BULL****!
Paul Plante says
It is indeed interesting to see this David Cuttino, a senior who is Black and a music major at St. Rose College in the Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York, who is also the Chapter President of the Albany County Chapter of the Groove Phi Groove social fellowship, and who says he has never had a Black professor, which he believes in his heart is a clear sign to those who know the signs, of “systemic racism” at St. Rose, and who wants his to be the last generation to deal with this systemic racism, where black students are forced to have to have white professors in college instead of professors who “look like them” as opposed to their white oppressors who held them as slaves invoking the name of Malcom X, to wit:
“This is the time,” Cuttino said.
“This is the time where we were in social studies and we listened to Malcom X and Martin Luther King and we heard them and we said, ‘If we were there we would do this that and the third,’ those times are now.”
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Malcolm X was a black dude who was assassinated in 1965 by another black dude named Thomas Hagan, a former member of the Nation of Islam who for a while also went by the name Talmadge X Hayer, and his chosen Islamic name of Mujahid Abdul Halim.
Hagan stated in a 1977 affidavit that he had planned the assassination with four others to seek revenge for Malcolm X’s public criticism of Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam.
Malcolm X is famous for a speech he made on October 11, 1963 at the University of California, Berkeley, in which he outlined the philosophy of black nationalism as promoted by the Nation of Islam and declared racial separatism as the best approach to the problems facing black America.
Racial separatism, people, a completely segregated society in America, which “black only, whites not allowed” areas by law because by invoking the name of Malcolm X, that is what this David Cuttino, a senior who is Black and a music major at St. Rose College in the Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York, and who says he has never had a Black professor, and who wants his to be the last generation to deal with this systemic racism, is advocating for – totally separate facilities for blacks where they won’t have to look at white faces or hear white voices.
As to that speech, it starts as follows:
Our people in the Negro community are trapped in a vicious cycle of ignorance, poverty, disease, sickness, and death.
There seems to be no way out.
No way of escape.
The wealthy, educated Black bourgeoisie, those uppity Negroes who do escape, never reach back and pull the rest of our people out with them.
The Black masses remain trapped in the slums.
And because there seems to be no hope or no other escape, we turn to wine, we turn to whiskey, and we turn to reefers, marijuana, and even to the dreadful needle – heroin, morphine, cocaine, opium – seeking an escape.
Many of us turn to crime, stealing, gambling, prostitution.
And some of us are used by the white overlords downtown to push dope in the Negro community among our own people.
Unemployment and poverty have forced many of our people into a life of crime.
But the real criminal is in the City Hall downtown, in the State House, and in the White House in Washington, D.C.
The real criminal is the white liberal, the political hypocrite.
And it is these legal crooks who pose as our friends, force us into a life of crime, and then use us to spread the white man’s evil vices in our community among our own people.
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This is some pretty heavy-duty stuff, is it not?
And boy, does he ever seem to lay a real heavy guilt trip on white liberals like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi, calling them political hypocrites, which they are.
So, the black man is forced into a life of crime by white liberals and political hypocrites like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi as those legal crooks who pose as friends to the black folks, and then use them to spread the white man’s evil vices in the black community among their own people.
Getting back to the Malcolm X speech, we have:
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that our people are scientifically maneuvered by the white man into a life of poverty.
Because we are forced to live in the poorest sections of the city, we attend inferior schools.
We have inferior teachers and we get an inferior education.
The white power structure downtown makes certain that by the time our people do graduate, we won’t be equipped or qualified for anything but the dirtiest, heaviest, poorest-paying jobs.
Jobs that no one else wants.
We are trapped in a vicious cycle of economic, intellectual, social, and political death.
Inferior jobs, inferior housing, inferior education which in turn again leads to inferior jobs.
We spend a lifetime in this vicious circle.
Or in this vicious cycle going in circles.
Giving birth to children who see no hope or future but to follow in our miserable footsteps.
So we thank God for the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
We who are Muslims saw no way out until we accepted the religion of Islam and the spiritual guidance of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
We saw no solution to our problems.
We saw no real leader among our people.
But today the whole world is talking about the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the divine solution he received from the God of our forefathers.
Not your God but from the God of our forefathers.
Not a temporary solution which will benefit only the hand-picked upper-class Negroes, but a solution divinely designed to solve the plight of the Black masses in this country permanently and forever.
The government does not want our people to listen and understand the solution that God has given the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
The government is against Mr. Muhammad because the government is against our God.
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That is why, people, that when black students go to St. Rose College in Albany, New York, they are forced to have to have white professors, instead of professors who “look like them,” because the government is against their God.
Moving right along here:
In order to trick our people away from God’s true solutions, the government is trying to deceive our people with a false solution, a phony solution, a deceitful solution called token integration.
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That people, is what is going on at St. Rose College in Albany, New York – token integration!
Getting back to the speech:
I may add, whenever you get on the bus or the subway or the streetcar and you have to use a token, that token is not the real thing but it is a substitute for the real thing.
And wherever you have a token, you have a substitute.
And wherever you have token integration, you don’t have anything but a substitute for integration and there’s no real integration anywhere in North America — North, South, East, or West, not even in San Francisco, Oakland, or Berkeley.
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Nor in Albany, New York at St. Rose College!
Getting back to the speech:
Has the government effort to bribe our people with token integration made our plight better; or has it made it worse?
When you tried to integrate the white community in search of better housing, the whites there fled to the suburbs.
And the community that you thought would be integrated soon deteriorated into another all-Black slum.
What happened to the liberal whites?
Why did they flee?
We thought that they were supposed to be our friends.
And why did the neighborhood deteriorate only after our people moved in?
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Now, there is a real serious question I would like answered.
Why do once prosperous neighborhoods deteriorate when the black folks move in and the white folks move out?
Getting back to Malcolm X to see if we might get that question answered, we have:
It is the tricky real estate agents posing as white liberal friends who encourage our people to force their way into white communities, and then they themselves sell these integrated houses at such high prices that our people again are forced to take in roomers to offset the high house notes.
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It is always the fault of white liberals, people, an idea that I actually find quite humorous, as it is the white liberals accusing the rest of us of being “racists” who suffer from implicit bias, when according to Malcolm X, it is the white liberals who are the real racists suffering from implicit bias, which means Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton!
A great speech so far, Malcolm!
And now we pause for station identification and a commercial break for a word from our sponsors, but don’t go away because there is yet much more to come in this on-going saga of systemic racism at St. Rose College in Albany, New York.
Paul Plante says
Getting back to Malcolm X, who knows almost as much about being black as does our own tokenny, who knows more than anybody else about being black, and his famous speech he made on October 11, 1963 at the University of California, Berkeley, in which he outlined the philosophy of black nationalism as promoted by the Nation of Islam and in which he declared racial separatism as the best approach to the problems facing black America, we have:
It is the tricky real estate agents posing as white liberal friends who encourage our people to force their way into white communities, and then they themselves sell these integrated houses at such high prices that our people again are forced to take in roomers to offset the high house notes.
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Now, these are the bread-and-butter types of issues I would like our own tokenny to tackle head on, by telling us if this is the truth, or a lie, to wit:
Do tricky real estate agents posing as white liberal friends encourage the black folks to force their way into white communities, and then sell these integrated houses at such high prices that the black folks again are forced to take in roomers to offset the high house notes?
And ‘A “black” man,’ who is saddened to view many of these comments, feel free yourself to jump right in here with some commentary on what Malcolm X is saying here, because as we can see from the article about systemic racism at St. Rose College in the Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York, his words from 1963, 57 years ago now, still live on and have meaning to the black community today!
Getting back to Malcolm X and the true perspective of a black man, we have:
This creates in the new area the same overcrowded conditions, and the new community soon deteriorates into the same slum conditions from which we thought we had escaped.
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tokenny, you are our real expert on being black today, having mastered the art yourself in a spectacular way – why don’t the black folks learn something here and break the pattern?
Any rational thoughts you can muster up on that subject?
Getting back to it once more:
The only one who has benefited is the white real estate agent who poses as our friend, as a liberal, and who sells us the house in a community destined by his own greedy schemes to become nothing but a high-priced slum area.
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You are a liberal, tokenny – is that why among us all in here, you are the one with the worst case of WHITE GUILT, something those of us who aren’t liberal, and thus, haven’t been making a living and a fortune screwing over the black folks by posing as white liberal friends encouraging the black folks to force their way into white communities, and then selling these integrated houses at such high prices that the black folks are forced to take in roomers to offset the high house notes so that the only one who has benefited is the white real estate agent who poses as the friend of the black folks, as a liberal, and who sells them the house in a community destined by their own greedy schemes to become nothing but a high-priced slum area, are not afflicted with, because not being liberal, we don’t treat the black folks in such a shabby manner as do the liberals like yourself?
Getting back to Malcolm X, who I think is making a great speech here so far, laying on a much-needed thick guilt trip on the white liberals like yourself and Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and mayor Kathy Sheehan of the Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York, we have:
Today our people can see that integrated housing has not solved our problems.
At best it was only a temporary solution.
One in which only the wealthy, hand-picked Negroes found temporary benefit.
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Which comment by Malcolm X, a black man as black as any of us in here, if not more so than most, except for tokenny, takes us back to ‘A “black” man’ @ July 17, 2020 at 8:41 pm, where he says, to wit:
Sorry but I can’t let you end on that racist rant!
We are a beautiful, loving, intelligent and God fearing people!
We have overcome slavery, Jim Crow and countess other methods of oppression.
Now we are Doctors, Lawyer, politicians etc.
I will not allow you to categorize an entire race of people as you did above.
Yes, we have major struggles but doesn’t every race?
I will admit many of our people are lost!
The issues are complex but we can solve them if we start coming together as human beings and stop attacking one another!
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In response, and let me say here that I was studying black people like Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver in the fifth grade over 60 years ago, as well as having read the 1895 Atlanta Compromise Speech of Booker T. Washington, and the 1903 public critique of Booker T. Washington’s policy of racial accommodation and gradualism by black leader and intellectual W.E.B. DuBois who published an essay in his collection “The Souls of Black Folk” with the title “Of Mr. Booker T. Washington and Others,” and it seems that who is attacking the intelligent and successful black folks are the other black folks who resent those black folks for being able to assimilate into civilized society to become successful in what those other black folks consider a “white man’s world,” as we see in Malcolm X’s comments about “(T)he wealthy, educated Black bourgeoisie, those uppity Negroes who do escape, never reach back and pull the rest of our people out with them.”
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Uppity Negros!
That is a black man speaking there saying those words, which would be considered racist and highly offensive if spoken by a white man.
You don’t hear any other race by the black folks running down those who have been successful.
You don’t hear Chinese talking about “uppity Chinese,” or Koreans talking about “uppity Koreans,” or Vietnamese talking about “uppity Vietnamese,” or Japanese talking about “uppity Japanese.”
So might you people be your own worst enemies in that regard?
And here let me say that I had a good friend who was black and she was living in a small town in Massachusetts as far from those black people as she could get, because in their minds, they are so hateful they will never let go of a past 400 years ago, and she wanted no part of them.
Getting back to Malcolm X:
After the 1954 Supreme Court desegregation decision, the same thing happened when our people tried to integrate the schools.
All the white students disappeared into the suburbs.
Now the caliber of what our people thought was to be an integrated school has fallen to the same level of the slum school from which we thought we had escaped.
Just as efforts to integrate housing failed miserably, efforts to integrate schools have been an even more miserable failure.
Having failed to get integrated housing and failed to get integrated schools’ now the Negro leaders are demanding integrated jobs.
That is they are demanding a certain quota, or percentage, of white people’s jobs.
First the Negro leadership demanded the white man’s house, and the whites vacated their run-down houses for us and built new homes for themselves out in the suburbs.
Then the Negro leaders demanded seats for our children in the white man’s schools.
The whites evacuated the schools as our children moved in and they built modern schools for themselves in the suburbs.
But now the Negro leadership is demanding the white man’s job.
Can the whites vacate their jobs like they did their homes and their schools and move to the suburbs and create more jobs ?
No.
Not without violence and bloodshed.
The same white liberals who used to praise our people for their patient nonviolent approach have now become openly impatient and violent themselves in defense of their own jobs.
Not only in the South but also in the North.
Even here in the Bay Area.
For thirty-three years the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has been warning us that the time would come when the white man would not have enough jobs for himself much less enough jobs for our people.
So the present demand of our people for more of the white man’s jobs must lead to violence and bloodshed.
It may even lead to a race war – a bloody race war.
And it is the government itself that is now pressing the people of this country into a racial blood bath.
But the white man is misjudging the times and he is underestimating the American so-called Negro because we’re living in a new day.
Our people are now a new people.
That old Uncle Tom-type Negro is dead.
Our people have no more fear of anyone, no more fear of anything.
We are not afraid to go to jail.
We are not afraid to give our very life itself.
And we’re not afraid to take the lives of those who try to take our lives.
We believe in a fair exchange.
We believe in a fair exchange.
An eye for an eye.
A tooth for a tooth.
A head for a head and life for a life.
If this is the price of freedom, we won’t hesitate to pay the price.
By trying to oppose the divine solution that God has given to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the American government will actually provoke another Civil War.
That is, this government – and especially that present administration in Washington, D.C. — will provoke a civil war among whites by trying to force them to give up their jobs and homes and schools to our people.
And our people will provoke a race war by trying to take the white man’s jobs and his schools and his home away from him.
This racial dilemma poses a serious problem for white America.
Civil war between whites on the one hand, a race war between the whites and their 20 million ex-slaves on the other hand.
And the entire dark world is watching, waiting to see what the American government will do to solve this problem once and for all.
We must have a permanent solution.
A temporary solution won’t do.
Tokenism will no longer suffice.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad has the only permanent solution.
Twenty million ex-slaves must be permanently separated from our former slavemaster and placed on some land that we can call our own.
Then we can create our own jobs.
Control our own economy.
Solve our own problems instead of waiting on the American white man to solve our problems for us.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that on our own land we can set up farms, factories, businesses.
We can establish our own government and become an independent nation.
And once we become separated from the jurisdiction of this white nation, we can then enter into trade and commerce for ourselves with other independent nations.
This is the only solution.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad says that in our own land we can establish our own agricultural system.
We can grow food to feed our own people.
We can raise cattle and use the hides, the leather, and the wool to clothe our people.
We can dig the clay from the earth and make bricks to build homes for our people.
We can turn the trees into lumber and furnish the homes for our own people.
He says that we can dig the natural resources from the earth once we are in our own land.
Land is the basis of all economic security.
Land is essential to freedom, justice, and equality.
Land is essential to true independence.
And the Honorable Elijah Muhammad says we must be separated from the American white man’ returned to our own land where we can live among our own people.
This is the only true solution.
For just as the biblical government of Egypt under Pharaoh was against Moses because Moses had been directed by God to separate the Hebrew slaves from Pharaoh and lead them out of the house of bondage to a land of their own, today this modern house of bondage under the authority of the American government opposes this modern Moses.
Opposes the Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s efforts to separate our people, who have been made slaves here in this country, and lead us to a land of our own.
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As I say, some pretty heavy duty stuff, alright.
So with those words having been said and accepted by the black folks today as black truth, I frankly am curious as to where there is any room for further constructive dialogue between the white folks and the black folks when sides have been taken and battle lines have been drawn.
Any rational thoughts, anyone, before the bullets start flying?
tokenny says
Paul, you should stop now, you’re becoming an embarrassment
Paul Plante says
An embarrassment?
By quoting history as it actually happened and then asking relevant questions based on that history?
You’re daft if you think that, tokenny!
But being daft, you would be the last to know that!
Your “WHITE GUILT” caused by your “WHITE ENTITLEMENT” has you furiously struggling to interrupt your internalized racial superiority and whiteness so that you have come to believe implicitly and without question that “objectivity,” “individualism,” “intellectualization,” and “comfort” are all vestiges of internalized racial oppression which in turn has you practicing “self-talk” that affirms your complicity in racism as a white liberal who has “complicity in the system of white supremacy” so that you must be held “accountable to Black, Indigenous, and People of Color,” which is exactly what Malcolm X said about you back in 1963, to wit:
Unemployment and poverty have forced many of our people into a life of crime.
But the real criminal is in the City Hall downtown, in the State House, and in the White House in Washington, D.C.
The real criminal is the white liberal, the political hypocrite.
And it is these legal crooks who pose as our friends, force us into a life of crime, and then use us to spread the white man’s evil vices in our community among our own people.
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That is what you find embarrassing, tokenny, Malcolm X reaching out his finger across the gulf of time to point it directly at you as the cause of the black man’s misery today, which has you, as a I said above, struggling to “interrupt your whiteness” and stop your “white normative behavior.”
And that is making you totally bonkers – a real live head case.
As for me who am not an empty-headed emotionally-disturbed white liberal, I am not so afflicted, and so, I am going to keep on keeping on, precisely because I think history is important and so, I am not going to help bury it to make you feel good about yourself.
Note: Well done.
Stuart Bell says
‘Embarrassment’ ? coming from someone that hides behind a fake moniker and crawls out to defend negroes, liberals homosexuals, cowards, transgenders….ect.
I have yet to hear you defend a patriot, our country, our bible, our constitution, God or our Judeo-Christian principals.
You are a joke. tkenny, without laughter.
tokenny says
That’s funny you saying defend the bible with what you wrote in the first paragraph.
Have you read the Bible? Aren’t we created in God’s image? Did he take the day off when he created “negroes, liberals homosexuals, cowards, transgenders….ect.”?
Go crawl back under the rock.
Paul Plante says
Always interesting points that you raise, tokenny, and that is a natural fact, Jack!
Sooooooo…
Which God, tokenny?
Which God created us in its image?
Go back up to the 1963 speech of Malcolm X, where we have as follows:
So we thank God for the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
We who are Muslims saw no way out until we accepted the religion of Islam and the spiritual guidance of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
We saw no solution to our problems.
We saw no real leader among our people.
But today the whole world is talking about the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the divine solution he received from the God of our forefathers.
Not your God but from the God of our forefathers.
Not a temporary solution which will benefit only the hand-picked upper-class Negroes, but a solution divinely designed to solve the plight of the Black masses in this country permanently and forever.
The government does not want our people to listen and understand the solution that God has given the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
The government is against Mr. Muhammad because the government is against our God.
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So it looks to me as if we are really talking about there being more than one God.
So which one are you talking about, tokenny?
The white man’s God?
Or the God of Malcolm X’s forefathers?
Or don’t you even know?
Stuart Bell says
Bless Your Heart…
tokenny says
Stop, please, just stop. As usual half baked and wrong.
The student population according to you is ” 55% of the student body is white, 15% is Black, about 10% is multiracial, and 7% is LatinX.” Tell me, did ya ever think to look up the racial makeup of the faculty? No, of course not because then you have no argument.
The faculty is 80.8% White and 6.4% Black – me thinks he has a valid point. Don’t you think the faculty should represent the diversity of the student body? Before you go off on some tangent ALL Universities and Colleges cater to their student body.
How ’bout we make a rule you can’t talk about racism or white privilege unless you’re black or a minority.,because otherwise you don’t know WTF you are talking about.
Paul Plante says
tokenny, you are very big on making rules that make it so all of those who don’t drink your Kool-Aid can’t have a voice today.
WHY?
What on earth are you so afraid of?
The truth?
And tell me, o wise one, why is it that people go to college?
Isn’t it to get an education?
SO WHAT THE **** DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHAT COLOR THE PROFESSOR IS?
Are you telling us that there is a separate black education that varies in all respects from the education everybody who isn’t black is getting?
I went to college, tokenny.
Who my teachers looked like was never a consideration of mine.
Is it of yours?
Do you go to a restaurant and bitch and moan and complain that there is an imbalance in the wait staff, there aren’t enough black waiters, and the same with the cooks?
What about when you go to the hardware store or supermarket?
Are you running around in either counting up the number of employees to see if the proper ratios are being met?
I bet you are!
These people who are crying and moaning and complaining about “HAVING” to go to a college where they were subjected to having to look at people who didn’t look like them in front of the class, versus having people who do look like them, are ******* A-HOLES in my estimation.
NOBODY made them go to St. Rose, tokenny.
That was their choice.
If they wanted a “black” education, why didn’t they go to a black college to get it?
Answer us that if you can, o you who knows all there is to know about everything.
Paul Plante says
And put your glasses on when you are reading something, tokenny, or have somebody do the reading for you, if you are incapable of doing so, because it is according to St. Rose, not me, that 55% of the student body is white, 15% is Black, about 10% is multiracial, and 7% is LatinX.
And where you grab this BULL**** from that the faculty of St. Rose is 80.8% White and 6.4% Black I frankly do not know, because the president of the college said quite clearly that about 15% of the 177 full time faculty are people of color.
Are you bonkers, tokenny?
But of course, if you were, as it seems, you wouldn’t know, would you!
A “black” man says
I am saddened to view many of these comments! Admittedly, I am not a huge social media to debater but would love the opportunity to share my perspective with you! We are all one human race and we need to come together to overcome our challenges. Let me know if you feel the same and we can arrange a get together!
Ray Otton says
Know what saddens us?
Black women getting abortions at 3 times the rate of white women.
Young black men committing 42% of all the murders in the country.
75% fatherless homes among the black community.
The celebration of “Hood Life”.
The attacks against blacks who’ve seen the light.
And most of all, your feckless black leaders who’ve done nothing to correct these problems except to blame white people.
So, when you get some new leaders who don’t demand WE fix YOUR problems, when we see a turn for the better among black communities, we’ll be there to listen.
Know why we’ll listen?
We aren’t racists, we’re realists.
Paul Plante says
Share your perspective?
When do you think you might do that?
This year?
Next year?
The year after that?
As for me, I have been listening to this same BULL**** since Malcolm X made that famous speech about the black folks needing to be totally segregated from the white folks, which more and more I think is a really great idea, and frankly, I am sick of the whining.
If you actually have a perspective, then by all means share it.
As to all of us being one race, then how come in a December 1988 news conference (thirty-two years ago) at Chicago’s Hyatt Regency O’Hare Hotel, where leaders of seventy-five black groups met to discuss a new national black agenda, Jesse Jackson announced that members of their race preferred to be called “African-American?”
What Jesse Jackson is saying there loud and clear is that the black folks aren’t human – they are some other race separate and apart.
Is he wrong?
Paul Plante says
Here’s a very simple question for you: are people in America with black skin American citizens?
Or aren’t they?
One or the other, so which is it?
And on the off-chance that they consider themselves American citizens, is their citizenship somehow different because they are black than that of people with white skin or yellow skin?
And tokenny, the man of infinite wisdom on everything, feel free to jump right in here with your two cents!
Are they citizens?
Or aren’t they?
Ray Otton says
“How ’bout we make a rule you can’t talk about racism or white privilege unless you’re black or a minority.,because otherwise you don’t know WTF you are talking about.”
Well, there’s some stark ass Liberalism for ya.
A “black” man says
Sorry but I can’t let you end on that racist rant! We are a beautiful, loving, intelligent and God fearing people! We have overcome slavery, Jim Crow and countess other methods of oppression. Now we are Doctors, Lawyer, politicians etc.. I will not allow you to categorize an entire race of people as you did above. Yes, we have major struggles but doesn’t every race? I will admit many of our people are lost! The issues are complex but we can solve them if we start coming together as human beings and stop attacking one another!
Ray Otton says
Sir, just because you are offended doesn’t make you right. The facts are what they are, they know no color and me presenting them doesn’t make me a racist.
Table 43 of the FBI’s crime stats report for the 2017 indicate a shockingly high percentage of crimes committed by the black race which makes up 13% of the population:
-42% of all murders
-50% of all violent crimes
-30% of all robberies
-33% of all larcenies
-30% of all rapes
It goes on in a number of other categories, but you can check out the table yourself if you are curious.
With these numbers in mind is it not clear the accusation that white women cross the street to avoid black men is rooted in realism, not racism?
Furthermore, the claim that the difficulties the black community faces are explained by outside factors in the form of white systemic racism is a myth and it must be challenged. Instead, the claim is being treated as the truth without any consideration by the black community in general and black leaders in particular.
Consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, this same methodology would more likely conclude that it is more anti-male than it is anti-black since 94% of all inmates are male.
This is one indicator of just how flawed this reasoning is and honestly, it requires a significant suspension of rational thought. For you see, black people are not incarcerated at higher rates than their INVOLVEMENT in violent crime would predict. In the vernacular, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
In addition, if the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans?
Odd sort of white supremacy, no?
The fact is, the vast majority of violence visited on the black community is committed by black people. Yet, there are literally no marches for these victims, no outrage from black leaders, no demands for the black community to stop the self-genocide. Look what goes on in Chicago on a weekly basis with literally no comment from BLM.
So, to the average white American the message is clear: Black lives only matter when whites take them. Black violence is expected, while white violence requires explanation and demands solution.
Do you not see how monstrously bigoted this is?
In addition, why is there no discussion of non-black victims of black violence, who proportionally outnumber black victims of non-black violence by a significant margin?……………..A reasoning person might argue that it is YOU who are preying on US.
Then there is the claim that black intraracial violence is the product numerous injustices. This is a false historical claim.
For instance –
1 – Japanese American internment during WWII and the massacre of European Jews haven’t led to equivalent rates of dysfunction among Japanese and Jewish Americans.
2 – Arab Americans were viciously demonized after 9/11, as have Chinese Americans more recently. However, both groups outperform white Americans in all educational tests, as do Nigerian Americans, who incidentally have black skin.
Unfortunately, no discussion of these facts is possible in the current national climate. The white racism explanation is provided to us by BLM, the media and the Democrat Party and disagreement with that explanation is declared racist……JUST LIKE YOU DID WITH ME.
Truth of the matter is, the most impressive thing Democrats have ever done is brainwash the black community into 1- believing they are their friends and 2- Republicans are racists.
The fact is, the American cities with the worst black-on-black violence and police-on-black violence are overwhelmingly Democrat-run.
The patronizing and condescending attitudes of Democrat leaders towards the black community guarantees a perpetual state of misery, resentment, poverty and the grievance politics which are simultaneously annihilating American political discourse and black lives.
I mean, they did convince you to vote for a supremely unqualified presidential candidate based on the color of his skin, did they not?
Hopefully, the black community is becoming aware of the condescending attitude of the Democrat party against them:
– The humiliating assumption that they are too stupid to do STEM.
– That they need special help and lower requirements to get ahead in life.
– That they are too stupid to get a voter ID card.
The soft bigotry of low expectations and the permanent claim that the solutions to the plight of black people rest exclusively on the goodwill of whites rather than on their own hard work is psychologically devastating. In fact, I see it in your own responses right here.
No other group in America is systematically demoralized in this way by its alleged allies. A whole generation of black children are being taught that only by begging and weeping and screaming will they get handouts from guilt-ridden whites.
So again, average white Americans, like myself, who know they aren’t racists, are ready willing and able to sit down with you at the grownup’s table…….when you start acting like grownups.
tokenny says
It seems this whole conversation on racism is above you and Paul. Just walk away.
First paragraph of an Executive Summary of Race and Wrongful Convictions in the United States.
African Americans are only 13% of the American population but a majority of innocent defendants wrongfully convicted of crimes and later exonerated. They constitute 47% of the 1,900 exonerations listed in the National Registry of Exonerations (as of October 2016), and the great majority of more than 1,800 additional innocent defendants who were framed and convicted of crimes in 15 large-scale police scandals and later cleared in “group exonerations.”
We see this racial disparity for all major crime categories, but we examine it in this report in the context of the three types of crime that produce the largest numbers of exonerations in the Registry: murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes.
If you wish to read further – http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf and if you need pictures try this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/wrongful-convictions-race-exoneration.html
Not all things are what they seem to be. Oh, I assume you copied most of this crap and didn’t read it but this? “Hopefully, the black community is becoming aware of the condescending attitude of the Democrat party against them:” The only ones I see with condescending attitudes here are old, white Republicans!
Ray Otton says
You can play with numbers any way you like but when 42% of the murders are committed by 13% of the population the average person knows where the problem is.
That you refuse to admit it is indicative of a fault in your reasoning, not ours.
And once again, we are as entitled to speak about race issues as are our fellow citizens of color, so knock off the demand that we sit silently by as you attempt to define the Liberal version of the country.
Or don’t and display for prove the truth of the saying “Liberals want Conservatives to shut up, Conservative want Liberal to keep talking”.
tokenny says
Ray, those FBI statistics are arrests not convictions. That’s an important distinction. When you consider that link it should make you wonder about those numbers.
You’re damn straight you can talk about race issues just make sure you talk about the white racism you face everyday.
Liberal version? WTF is that? I’m telling you as a white male don’t tell me whether or not a minority faces racism. That’s more like Truism. You have no experiences other than being a white male.
You wouldn’t tell a woman what she will experience during pregnancy.
You wouldn’t tell an astronaut what they will experience in space.
Why would you tell a black person whether or not they are experiencing racism?
Paul Plante says
Because it is in their imagination, is why, tokenny, and I have said that to many people of the black persuasion to their face – “You’re looned and don’t know what you are on about with this racism HORSE****!”
And being a human being, myself, tokenny. and believing that the black folks are also human, I am rational enough to know that given there is but one race, then it logically follows that there can’t be “racism.”
As to a woman being pregnant, given that it is they who actually are pregnant, why would they need a male to tell them about being pregnant?
However, if one is a male who has had children, then he certainly can convey to a woman who has never been pregnant some of what she will experience during pregnancy.
Doctors who are male do that all the time, from my experience of the process, being a grandfather and all of that.
And as to your inane statement that you wouldn’t tell an astronaut what they will experience in space, that’s more BULL****.
A big part of the training process is based on them being told what they will experience in space, so they are prepared for it.
What do you think – they play it by ear and make it up as they go?
So why would I tell a black person whether or not they are experiencing racism?
That answer is simple and obvious, tokenny – to correct them when they are wrong.
Stuart Bell says
State your name, Coward. You have been called out.
Stuart Bell says
‘Sorry but I can’t let you end on that racist rant! ‘
What, pray tell, are you going to do about it?
Our Fathers conceived a dream.
Our Fathers denied an empire.
Our Fathers cast off the shackles of foreign dominion.
Our Fathers soaked this soil in their blood.
Our Fathers envisioned this great nation.
Our Fathers made all of this happen.
You did none of these things.
You labored under the lash of our whips. You labored according to our will. You were the crude tools used by our Fathers to realize their dream, your efforts directed by minds greater than your own, by visions of destiny you still today cannot understand. The Brothers of YOUR Fathers put them in chains and sold them to us as property, so little was the value they placed on their own kind. If they had not, there is no reason to believe that you today, should you even exist, would not be living in mud huts baking under the African sun in a parched, disease-ridden continent where more Africans are today enslaved by their own kind than ever crossed the Atlantic in chains. You did not build this nation, this is not your nation. Your condition offers you no claim to what is not yours. This is OUR nation, and it is by OUR good grace that you today enjoy a quality of life greater than that of Negros anywhere else in the world.
tokenny says
“That answer is simple and obvious, tokenny – to correct them when they are wrong.” well if that doesn’t sound like the white arrogance Malcolm X was talking about!
For someone who talks so much about history, you sure don’t understand it. Thank you for bringing this conversation to a close. (quite usual for you) and let us know how the conversation with the pregnant women goes. I suspect not well.
ps. nowadays , astronauts are told by other astronauts about the experience of space. Drs tell them about the effects on their body. Psychological vs physiological. You swung and missed Paul.
Paul Plante says
You’re a real hoot, tokenny, a natural born comic opera star.
Thanks for livening up our days in here with your inane colored commentary on life.
And did I say that I was a grandfather, tokenny!
So I have had that conversation with pregnant women many times, and it has always gone well for them and myself.
Since you don’t know what you are talking about in that regard, you would be better off of course just keeping your mouth shut.
Just saying.
And white arrogance?
Not hardly.
Just informing them as to the truth of the matter.
And let me say this, tokenny – I am an American citizen who is just as equal as is the person who is coal black, so they have no right whatsoever to be dictating to me how I must think and speak and act – period.
So much for your racism, tokenny – IT’S BULL****.
A figment of your obviously guilty imagination!
Or are you telling us that those with black skin are now superior to those of us with white skin, so they do get to dictate to us how we must think and feel?
The candid world would like to know!
Paul Plante says
And getting back to the American history our dear friend and fellow commentator tokenny wants buried deep because it somehow spoils or upsets the narrative he is trying to push in here, let’s go back to 1963 and see what else Malcolm X had to say in his famous speech at Berkeley in California, to wit:
The government opposes the Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s efforts to wake us up, clean us up, and stand us on our own feet so we can follow him out of this house of bondage to our own land where we can live among our own people.
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Personally, I think that is BULL****, but since he thinks that way, I’ll leave him to his opinions.
Moving along, we have:
Just as the government of biblical Egypt was against the God of the Hebrew slaves, today the American government is against the God of her Negro slaves, the God of our forefathers.
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And here we go, back to there being more than one god, which makes this a religious war – the government of the United States of America in the one corner, and the God of her Negro slaves, now called “African-Americans,” in the other!
And with that belief present among the members of the “black race,” it makes it kind of difficult to have any kind of rational conversation or discussion with them if you are not black and don’t believe in a multiplicity of gods.
Getting back to Malcolm X and the history tokenny wants suppressed, we have:
And just as that Pharaoh tried to trick the Hebrew slaves into rejecting the offers of salvation from their God by deceiving them with false promises through hired magicians and carefully staged demonstrations like the recent ridiculous march on Washington [the 1963 civil rights march and rally at the Lincoln Memorial], today this government is paying certain elements of the Negro leadership to deceive our people into thinking that we’re going to get accepted soon into the mainstream of American life.
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Now, seriously, people, with those words stated, and that belief laid out on the table for all to consider, where is the basis for further dialogue?
Moving right along here while we wait for tokenny to respond, we have:
The government is deceiving our people with false promises so we won’t want to return to our own land and people.
The government is saying, “Stay here, don’t listen to this Muhammad, we will desegregate the lunch counters and the theaters and the parks and the toilets” – meaning this public accommodation thing where you can sit on a toilet with a white person or in a toilet with a white person.
“We’ll give you more civil rights bills.”
“We won’t give you civil rights, but we’ll give you civil rights bills.”
The government promises our people this only to keep you from listening to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and to stop us from waking up.
They know that if we listen to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad long enough, we will begin to do our own thinking.
He’ll make us see, hear, think, and able to speak for ourselves.
Whenever you become fed up in this country with the white man’s brutality and you get set to take matters in your own hands in order to defend yourself and your people, the same government – and again I repeat, especially that Catholic administration in Washington, D.C. – tries to pacify our people with deceitful promises of tricky civil rights legislation that is never designed to be a true solution to our problem.
Civil rights legislation will never solve our problems.
The white liberals are nothing but political hypocrites who use our people as political footballs only to get bills passed that will increase their own power.
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Actually, there is something on which he and I can both agree – that white liberals like Nancy Pelosi and Joe “Corn Pop” Biden and Hillary Clinton and Kathy Sheehan of Albany are nothing but political hypocrites who use the black folks as political footballs only to get bills passed that will increase their own power.
Dead on the money you are with that statement, Malcolm X!
Being a liberal himself, tokenny might not agree with it, but too bad for him, because his disagreement does not render that statement false.
Getting back to history:
The present proposed civil rights legislation will give the present administration dictatorial powers and make America a legal police state, but still won’t solve the race problem.
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For the record, in 1963, the date of this speech, the president under discussion here was a DEMOCRAT named Lyndon Baines Johnson, which takes us back to the speech as follows:
The present administration is only using civil rights as a political football to gain more legislation and power for itself.
Our people are being used as pawns in the game of power politics by political hypocrites.
They don’t want our people to listen to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad because they know he will make them – make us see them as they really are.
So I say in my conclusion, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s message and solution is simple.
He says: “Since we are not wanted in this country, let’s pack our bags and go home to our own people, to our own land.”
The propaganda of the American government is skillfully designed to make our people think that our people back home don’t want us.
Government propagandists tell us constantly, “Africa is a jungle.”
“Africans are savage and backward.”
“They have no modern conveniences and you’re too much like us white folks.”
“How could you live comfortably back there?”
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And let us make it incandescently clear here that when he talks about Government propagandists telling the black folks constantly that “Africa is a jungle,” and “Africans are savage and backward,” he is talking about DEMOCRATS!
Getting back to Malcolm X, we have:
This propaganda is government strategy against the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, realizing that his mission is to teach our people the truth about our own kind, clean us up, and then return us to our own land and unite us with our own people.
The American government turns us against our own kind in order to keep us from making a mass exodus out of this country where we can live at home among our own people.
Therefore, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad says, American propaganda is designed to make us think that no matter how much hell we catch here, we’re still better off in America than we’d be anywhere else.
They want us to think we have no place else to go.
And many of our so-called intellectuals who pose as our leaders and spokesmen actually believe that we have no place else to go.
So their solution to our problem is that we stay here and continue to catch hell from the American white man.
But the only permanent solution is complete separation or some land of our own in a country of our own.
All other courses will lead to violence and bloodshed.
It will lead to the destruction of America, and it will also lead to the destruction of our people who fall for it.
So his message is flee for your lives and save yourselves.
And I thank you.
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So, people, whether you like it or not, that is a hard look at the American history that underlies these times we are now in.
As to a country of their own, isn’t that what Liberia was supposed to be?
Doesn’t anyone remember Liberia, which began as a settlement of the American Colonization Society (ACS), who believed black people would face better chances for freedom and prosperity in Africa than in the United States?
Consider that on January 3, 1848, before the American Civil War, Joseph Jenkins Roberts, a wealthy, free-born African American from Virginia who settled in Liberia, was elected Liberia’s first president after the people proclaimed independence.
Joseph Jenkins Roberts (March 15, 1809 – February 24, 1876) was an African-American merchant who emigrated to Liberia in 1829, where he became a noted politician.
So what is that history doing to the narrative of tokenny?
Stay tuned for further developments.
Paul Plante says
And tokenny, I personally think at this point in the discussion on systemic racism that the greatest service you can now render to the American people courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror would be to go through what Malcolm X said in 1963 word for word and line by line and rationally demonstrate to us all with logic how he was wrong in anything he said.