June 21, 2025

9 thoughts on “Citizens want Poultry Operations Curtailed due to Water Concerns

  1. These “Five Citizens” should be commended for their insightful, intelligent and well researched letter to David Paylor, director of the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality. If more letters like this one piled up on Director’s desk in ALL departments, then there might be some thought-provoking discussion taking place, instead of folks just trying to figure out how to infuse more money into a local economy. I am not whole-heartily against the influx of money, but I am against the consequences of that influx. And I am against an aggressive and tone-deaf method of Board of Supervisors’ (Accomack County’s Board – not Northampton’s Board) of passing permitting without considering the health risks and the dangers to environmental risks and consequences. The practice of five hundred and eighty CAFO’s operating within the upper reaches of the aquifer, is akin to “poisoning the well”. Maybe not today, maybe not for another five or ten years. But it’s not a matter of “If”, it is a matter of “When”. And then, cost of fresh water will skyrocket. The cost of health care will affect every pocket. Will the infusion of “fast” cash be worth the total ticket costs? I hardly think so.

    Letters such as these should be flooding every desk of every person who controls these decisions. From the local farmers and managers of the CAFO’s, to the presidents of Perdue and Tyson combined. Every DEQ and every board member to every town mayor and town boards should be alerted. These two “Blue Chip” market members that just happen to “process” chicken, don’t readily care about local populace water consumption. They quite honestly care only for the amount they can use during the course of the run of chicken and by-product they are processing at any given time. Once that water supply is tainted, contaminated with salt-water or brine or poisoned by the waste product of their own growers…they will just move on. When the water is gone, so will be the jobs. So, also, will be a stable living situation. The missteps created today, will be the final choice, chosen for tomorrow.

    If, my water was captured from a well on the Eastern Shore, and was used for bathing, washing clothes, cooking and cleaning dishes and that home…I would think very seriously about what is happening in your backyards. Look at the rate of cancers, compared to other areas. Research what locals in Somerset County, Maryland have been reporting for years. Research what Penn State, University of Michigan and the University of Iowa reports have been saying about health risks of CAFO’s. The more you know now, the better you can manage your own resources. The key is balance. The tone of the letter, toward the end, speaks of this. The intent is not to bring down the economy of these two processing plants. The intent is to ensure that good stewardship takes place and that the people of the Eastern Shore can be guaranteed a quality state of living with clean water and air for generations to come. Now is the time, to question that reality. Question those who are directing this. Do so, until you are satisfied with their answers.

  2. What an excellent resource for the public this newspaper is.

    This is real grass-roots citizenship here, both on the part of these letter writers and the Cape Charles Mirror itself.

    Here to the north of you, these same issues never see the light of day in the press.

    What a different world it would be to the north of you if we too had a Cape Charles Mirror to air our grievances in.

    For a time we did, but it was abruptly ended and disappeared from cyber-space right after this post of mine which was a part of an on-going series written by myself as a public health engineer on the subject of who was responsible for a groundwater contamination issue affecting children up this way where I am, to wit:

    TALK RADIO 1300 on June 15 2016

    These people are asking for a corrupt system to investigate itself to end the corruption that caused their drinking water to become contaminated with PFOA, as if that corrupt system will somehow take an action against itself to clean itself up and end that corruption which caused their drinking water to become contaminated with PFOA.

    It will be very interesting to see how that all works out.

    My bet would be a white-wash if there ever were any hearings held.

    Let’s look back at the record here for a moment.

    In the NEWS 10 ABC article “State officials respond to NEWS10 questions about Hoosick Falls water contamination” by Lindsay Nielsen published roughly five (5) months ago on February 26, 2016, where NEWS10 ABC spoke face-to-face with state officials to get questions answered about the water contamination in Hoosick Falls, we had New York State Director of State Operations Jim Malatras, the same one who met with the Hoosick Falls folks today, telling us “Just so we’re clear, we followed the EPA standard,” and “The village followed the EPA standard.”

    Does anyone think he is going to retract that statement now in some type of hearing?

    And who is it that is going to stand up on the witness stand to refute what he is saying?

    Howie Zucker?

    Basil Seggos?

    And have we already forgotten Republican Senate majority leader John Flanagan being quoted in POLITICO on Feb. 18, 2016 as saying “the reality is” that neither he nor Andy Cuomo cares about who may be to blame for things in Hoosick Falls?

    Is he going to suddenly start caring today because of Steve McLaughlin bringing these Hoosick Falls people around to see New York State Director of State Operations Jim Malatras, who has already told us months ago “Just so we’re clear, we followed the EPA standard,” and “The village followed the EPA standard?”

    Stay tuned, people, anything is liable to happen here now, so don’t touch that radio dial.

    Paul Plante, NYSPE

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    Again, kudos to the people who wrote that comprehensive letter and the Cape Charles Mirror for making it public.

  3. I have been involved with groundwater issues to the north of you since in or about 1975.

    Since that time, I have become licensed as a professional engineer in New York state as well as qualified by examination to practice as an associate level public health engineer in NYS.

    In NYS, 10 NYCRR 11.100 (NYS Code of Rules and Regulations) defines public health engineer as follows:

    The term public health engineer shall mean a person who applies engineering principles for the detection, evaluation, control and management of those factors in the environment which influence the public’s health.

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    As an associate public health engineer, I was responsible for the health of 154,000 people in a county health department.

    Based on that experience, as I consider what is going on down here in Virginia, as exemplified by this letter above, as well as in corrupt New York State, where we are engaged in a race to the bottom with third-world ****holes with no regulations to protect public health, so we can attract bidness away from them, these words from our Penal Law keep coming back to me, to wit:

    “Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk to another person ….”

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    Does that phrase “evincing a depraved indifference to human life” apply to the conduct of your DEQ down here?

    Seems so, does it not?

  4. Reading through this citizen’s letter in an effort to absorb its content, I came across this following, which frankly has set me to wondering, given the political nature of these kinds of appointments, as opposed to positions earned by merit through examinations:

    “As we pointed out in our initial letter to you dated February 15, 2018 we are well aware that you began your esteemed career in the field of environmental protection and decisionmaking for the Commonwealth of Virginia by serving on the State Water Control Board (herein referred to as the “SWCB”) in 1973.”

    “As such, there is probably not another public servant in government today that knows more about the legislative intent and underscoring code controlling on this Board regarding the goals and mission of state elected leaders to protect the surface and groundwater resources of the Commonwealth of Virginia.”

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    The dude is a political appointee – why is there an assumption that he knows anything at all about the legislative intent and underscoring code controlling on the Water Board regarding the goals and mission of state elected leaders to protect the surface and groundwater resources of the Commonwealth of Virginia?

    Isn’t the purpose of this second letter to remind this dude that he essentially blew them off in his first letter?

    As to his “esteemed career” in the field of environmental protection and decisionmaking for the Commonwealth of Virginia, this is what the Virginia DEQ has to say about it:

    About the Director

    DEQ Director, David K. Paylor

    David K. Paylor was appointed director of the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality by Governor Terry McAuliffe in January 2014 and previously was appointed by Governor Bob McDonnell in 2010.

    He originally was appointed director by Governor Timothy Kaine in 2006.

    Paylor’s career began in 1973 with the State Water Control Board and continued with DEQ.

    He began as a field biologist and held a variety of positions after that as an aquatic ecologist, water resources manager, director of petroleum programs, and director of operations.

    Paylor is president of the Environmental Research Institute of the States.

    Paylor graduated from Duke University with a bachelor’s degree in zoology and received his master’s degree from Oregon State University in fisheries science.

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    Where from that does he become an expert on groundwater withdrawals?

    Or doesn’t he really have to be?

    And a more relevant question is how did he come to the notice of Governor Timothy Kaine in 2006?

    What exactly was it about David Paylor that made Governor Timothy Kaine in 2006 pick him out ,of the field to make him DEQ Director?

    Are we to believe that politics played no part in that?

    Wouldn’t it be nice for all involved if that were so.

    Getting back to the DEQ site, it continues:

    For more than 40 years, Paylor has promoted environmental stewardship in his roles within Virginia’s government.

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    If that is so, then why are we reading this letter above to him today, where he has apparently just blown off some local residents who seem more committed to environmental stewardship than is David Paylor.

    The DEQ site continues as follows:

    He is regarded as an influential leader who has helped the state face some of its greatest environmental challenges, including the effort to address nutrient pollution in the Chesapeake Bay watershed and implementation of the Bay Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL).

    His dedication to stakeholder engagement and collaborative problem solving has led to significant achievements in the areas of renewable energy permitting, water supply and groundwater management.

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    Ah, yes, groundwater management!

    But if that is the case, then why the need for this above letter to remind him of his duty to the people of Virginia?

  5. So where does this buck really stop?

    On whose desk does it finally land?

    Does it stop with David Paylor, the director of the Virginia DEQ?

    Or does it go beyond him?

    And how can we ever tell?

    For that answer, all we need do is to refer to Virginia Code https://law.justia.com/codes/virginia/2017/title-10.1/chapter-11.1/ Title 10.1, Subtitle II, Chapter 11.1, Article 1, § 10.1-1185, Appointment of Director; powers and duties of Director, where we find as follows:

    The Department (of Environmental Quality) shall be headed by a Director appointed by the Governor to serve at his pleasure.

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    “Serve at the pleasure of” in politics is translated as “serves to give pleasure to,” so that all actions of DEQ director David Paylor go back to the office of the Virginia governor, so that if David Paylor happens to be turning his back on the law, the assumption would have to be that he was doing so to give pleasure to the governor so that Paylor could keep his job.

    “Serves at the pleasure of” means the holder of the position can be summarily removed at a moment’s notice.

    Getting back to the law as written, it states:

    The Director shall be an experienced administrator with knowledge of environmental protection and government operation and shall have demonstrated expertise in organizational management and environmental science, environmental law, or environmental policy.

    The Director of the Department of Environmental Quality shall, under the direction and control of the Governor, exercise such power and perform such duties as are conferred or imposed upon him by law and shall perform such other duties as may be required of him by the Governor and the following Boards: the State Air Pollution Control Board, the State Water Control Board, and the Virginia Waste Management Board.

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    Focus your attention on that last sentence, people, as to where the buck really does stop here: “The Director of the Department of Environmental Quality (David Paylor) shall, under the direction and control of the Governor ….”

    Under the direction and control of the governor!

    So, in essence, Virginia Director of Environmental Quality David Paylor is little more than a finger puppet on one of the digits of your governor’s hand.

    Thus, it would seem that this letter should really be addressed to your governor, with the question of why he is allowing this travesty to happen given that David Paylor is under his direction and control.

    And that letter should in turn make reference to Virginia Code § 10.1-1183. Creation of Department of Environmental Quality; statement of policy, as follows:

    It shall be the policy of the Department of Environmental Quality to protect the environment of Virginia in order to promote the health and well-being of the Commonwealth’s citizens.

    The purposes of the Department are:

    1. To assist in the effective implementation of the Constitution of Virginia by carrying out state policies aimed at conserving the Commonwealth’s natural resources and protecting its atmosphere, land and waters from pollution.

    2. To coordinate permit review and issuance procedures to protect all aspects of Virginia’s environment.

    3. To enhance public participation in the regulatory and permitting processes.

    4. To establish and effectively implement a pollution prevention program to reduce the impact of pollutants on Virginia’s natural resources.

    5. To establish procedures for, and undertake, long-range environmental program planning and policy analysis.

    6. To conduct comprehensive evaluations of the Commonwealth’s environmental protection programs.

    7. To develop uniform administrative systems to ensure coherent environmental policies.

    8. To coordinate state reviews with federal agencies on environmental issues, such as environmental impact statements.

    9. To promote environmental quality through public hearings and expeditious and comprehensive permitting, inspection, monitoring and enforcement programs, and provide effective service delivery to the regulated community.

    10. To advise the Governor and General Assembly, and, on request, assist other officers, employees, and public bodies of the Commonwealth, on matters relating to environmental quality and the effectiveness of actions and programs designed to enhance that quality.

    11. To ensure that there is consistency in the enforcement of the laws, regulations, and policies as they apply to holders of permits or certificates issued by the Department, whether the owners or operators of such regulated facilities are public sector or private sector entities, including the development of electronic recordkeeping and document transmittal systems that encourage the use of electronic methods in performing the Department’s business as a means of furthering both resource conservation and transaction efficiency.

  6. As is the case in corrupt New York state, there is a lot of confusion as to whose responsibility it really is to protect the public’s health, and the answer in both states is it is not the Department of Environmental Quality in Virginia, nor is it the Department of Environmental Conservation in NYS.

    Why?

    Because the protection of the public’s health requires the judgment of a medical doctor as a commissioner, not a political hack.

    And that brings us to Title 32 of the Virginia Code where in § 32.1-2, Finding and purpose, we are informed as follows:

    The General Assembly finds that the protection, improvement and preservation of the public health and of the environment are essential to the general welfare of the citizens of the Commonwealth.

    For this reason, the State Board of Health and the State Health Commissioner, assisted by the State Department of Health, shall administer and provide a comprehensive program of preventive, curative, restorative and environmental health services, educate the citizenry in health and environmental matters, develop and implement health resource plans, collect and preserve vital records and health statistics, assist in research, and abate hazards and nuisances to the health and to the environment, both emergency and otherwise, thereby improving the quality of life in the Commonwealth.

    This comprehensive program of preventive, curative, restorative, and environmental health services shall include prevention and education activities focused on women’s health, including, but not limited to, osteoporosis, breast cancer, and other conditions unique to or more prevalent among women.

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    Focus in on these words: For this reason, the State Board of Health and the State Health Commissioner, assisted by the State Department of Health, shall administer and provide a comprehensive program of environmental health services.

    According to the Virginia Department of Health website, the Environmental Health Division protects public health by preventing the transmission of disease through food, water, and sewage, and works closely with other agencies to protect the environment.

    As to appointment of the Virginia Health Commissioner Virginia Code Title 32, § 32.1-17. Appointment of Commissioner; qualifications; term, provides as follows:

    A. There shall be a State Health Commissioner appointed by the Governor, subject to confirmation by each house of the General Assembly.

    The Commissioner shall be a physician licensed to practice medicine in this Commonwealth and shall be certified by the American Board of Preventive Medicine or a recognized board in a primary care specialty as approved by the American Board of Medical Specialties, experienced in public health duties, sanitary science and environmental health, and otherwise qualified to execute the duties incumbent upon him by law.

    B. The Commissioner shall be appointed for a term coincident with that of the Governor and shall serve at the pleasure of the Governor.

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    And there we are back to that phrase “shall serve at the pleasure of the Governor,” which makes your Commissioner of Health another finger puppet for the governor to control to your detriment.

    Contrast that with New York Public Health Law § 204, Commissioner; appointment; term of office, as follows:

    The commissioner shall be appointed by the governor, by and with the advice and consent of the senate and shall hold office until the end of the term of the governor by whom he was appointed and until his successor is appointed and has qualified.

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    Notice that the words “shall serve at the pleasure of the Governor” are missing there, as they should be.

    Why?

    Because the public’s health should not be a political football for some hack politician serving as governor to kick around, as seems to be the case in Virginia.

    I attribute that difference to Article XVII of the NYS Constitution which provides as follows in section 3, to wit:

    §3. The protection and promotion of the health of the inhabitants of the state are matters of public concern and provision therefor shall be made by the state and by such of its subdivisions and in such manner, and by such means as the legislature shall from time to time determine.

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    It does not appear that Virginia has a similar constitutional provision regarding protection and promotion of the health of the people of Virginia.

    However, the Bill of Rights of the Virginia Constitution has some strong wording that these aggrieved citizens should consider, to wit:

    Article I. Bill of Rights

    Section 2. People the source of power

    That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people, that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them.

    Section 3. Government instituted for common benefit

    That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation, or community; of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety, and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.

    Section 15. Qualities necessary to preservation of free government

    That no free government, nor the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people, but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; by frequent recurrence to fundamental principles; and by the recognition by all citizens that they have duties as well as rights, and that such rights cannot be enjoyed save in a society where law is respected and due process is observed.

    That free government rests, as does all progress, upon the broadest possible diffusion of knowledge, and that the Commonwealth should avail itself of those talents which nature has sown so liberally among its people by assuring the opportunity for their fullest development by an effective system of education throughout the Commonwealth.

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    Perhaps DEQ Director David Paylor needs a reminder that these Constitutional provisions exist in Virginia, and that as a citizen of Virginia, regardless of his title as DEQ director, he too has duties as well as rights, and that such rights cannot be enjoyed save in a society where law is respected and due process is observed.

    He should also be reminded that government in Virginia is instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people of Virginia, and the communities of Virginia, and of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety, and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration.

    And if he wonders what maladministration is, tell him that maladministration is about the conduct of public officers and the practices, policies and procedures of public authorities that result in the substantial mismanagement of public resources, or the substantial mismanagement of official functions, which is the subject of this letter above, when you come right down to it.

    Remind him as well that maladministration also includes conduct that might be described as incompetent or negligent which again seems to be the subject of this letter above.

    See if he gets the message, and if your governor does, as well.

  7. I remember back in the early 80s and before, when American Original clam house was operating in Oyster, when they used a lot of water, residents of Oyster had problems getting enough water at their homes.

    1. Slide, dude, what it is!

      Say, you’re a seasider and a savvy dude in here as a result, did you know that in 1969, during the 1969 Vietnam War draft lottery, when I myself was a grunt in Viet Nam, John Robert Bolton, a noted warhawk who is now Trump’s national security advisor whose political views are nationalist and conservative, and similar to those of Donald Trump, and who ran the Students For Goldwater campaign in 1964, at the McDonogh School in Owings Mills, Maryland, drew number 185, and as a result of the Johnson and Nixon administrations’ decisions to rely largely on the draft rather than on the reserve forces, joining a Guard or Reserve unit became a way to avoid service in the Vietnam War, so warhawk Bolton enlisted in the Maryland Army National Guard in 1970 rather than wait to find out if his draft number would be called.

      After serving in the National Guard for four years, he served in the United States Army Reserve until the end of his enlistment two years later.

      He wrote in his Yale 25th reunion book “I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy.”

      “I considered the war in Vietnam already lost.”

      In an interview, Bolton discussed his comment in the reunion book, explaining that he decided to avoid service in Vietnam because “by the time I was about to graduate in 1970, it was clear to me that opponents of the Vietnam War had made it certain we could not prevail, and that I had no great interest in going there to have Teddy Kennedy give it back to the people I might die to take it away from.”

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      What horse****, don’t you think, slide, dude, but that excuse is as good as any, I suppose, and it wouldn’t be looked askance at by people like Bill or Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump, so it works for him.

      And how many American lives did he save by not going, where he likely would have been one of those ****-ups who get other people killed, but never themselves?

      He’s a war hawk so long as it doesn’t have to be his blood that is being shed.

      As to this kerfuffle about the ground water, slide, do you feel like many in America that it is past time to can all these regulations that are intended to protect people because they take profits away from business and the economy?

      Shouldn’t we really take America back in time to the days of Jay Gould and the “Robber Barons,” those late 19th-century American businessmen who used unscrupulous methods to get rich?

      Isn’t that really the true American Way right there, and to hell with these people and their water?

      If they didn’t want water problems, then why are they living next to these massive chicken-growing operations?

      Getting back to making America great by taking us back in time to the mid-18oos, the metaphor “Robber Baron” appeared as early as February 9, 1859, when The New York Times used it to characterize the unethical business practices by Cornelius Vanderbilt.

      Did you know that, slide?

      Cornelius Vanderbilt, of course, was an earlier-day Donald Trump, so it is no wonder that Trump today wants to take us back to those days.

      As to the metaphor “Robber Baron,” historian T.J. Stiles says the metaphor, “conjures up visions of titanic monopolists who crushed competitors, rigged markets, and corrupted government.”

      “In their greed and power, legend has it, they held sway over a helpless democracy.”

      Doesn’t that make you feel all warm and squishy inside, slide, knowing that thanks to Trump, those days will soon be back all over again?

      Getting back to when America was really great, Charles R. Geisst says, “in a Darwinist age, Vanderbilt developed a reputation as a plunderer who took no prisoners.”

      That is so Donald Trump today, is it not?

      Hal Bridges said that the term represented the idea that “business leaders in the United States from about 1865 to 1900 were, on the whole, a set of avaricious rascals who habitually cheated and robbed investors and consumers, corrupted government, fought ruthlessly among themselves, and in general carried on predatory activities comparable to those of the robber barons of medieval Europe.”

      The term combines the pejorative senses of criminal (“robber”) and aristocrat (“barons” having no legitimate role in a republic).

      Hostile cartoonists might dress the offenders in royal garb to underscore the offense against democracy, but hey, what the heck, ain’t it, slide, because in truth, democracy in this country has been dead for quite some time.

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